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it is about the money

updated sun 31 jul 05

 

Paul Lewing on wed 27 jul 05


on 7/27/05 12:53 PM, Jeanette Harris at monkeymind@COMCAST.NET wrote:

> that's $19,200 net income.
>
> But wait, you must pay taxes on that net income, so
> subtract 25% for taxes: $ 4,800.
> $ 19,200 - $ 4,800 = $ 14,400 Real net income
>
> Divide 12 months into $ 14,400 = $ 1200 per month true income.

But wait! It's not 25% in taxes. It's just over 40% in federal taxes (28%
income tax, 12.3% Social Security and Medicare tax, if you're
self-employed).
So subtract $7680. That's $11520 = $960 per month.
Paul Lewing, Seattle

Jeanette Harris on wed 27 jul 05


Here's an exercise that was presented during a demo some years ago at
the Oregon Potter's Association Portland Showcase. I jotted it down
at the time and found my notes this morning:


Clay income calculation

Say you want an income of about $75,000 per year. Sounds good.


But won't sell everything you make, but through good marketing, you
sell, say at least, 85% of your inventory:
$75,000 x .85 = $ 63,750. Still sounds pretty good. But wait.........

If you pay 50% gallery commission*, that's $ 31,875
Let's round it up to $32,000. So this is the net you would get from sales.

But you must calculate your overhead into this equasion.
Take 40% off for overhead: $ 32,000 x .4 = $12,800,
so that's $19,200 net income.

But wait, you must pay taxes on that net income, so
subtract 25% for taxes: $ 4,800.
$ 19,200 - $ 4,800 = $ 14,400 Real net income

Divide 12 months into $ 14,400 = $ 1200 per month true income.


__________

*Show fees not included in this calculation, but you could figure out
what shows you did last year, what the cost was for the jurying,
booth, transportation, food & lodging and come up with an idea of
what percent of your 'commission' for a show would be.

If you've just cleared expenses, You've Paid 100% Commission to the
show managers!



--
Jeanette Harris
Poulsbo WA

Potter's Council member

URL Krueger on thu 28 jul 05


About the only two things I remember from Econ 101 are:

1. Overall, keeping 10% of gross sales is pretty good.
If you want 100 grand for youself you better plan on selling
a million.

2. You should always be looking at what the next best
alternative is. It might actually be better.

--
Earl K...
Bothell WA, USA

claybair on thu 28 jul 05


Oye...... Do you want fries with that???

Gayle Bair
Bainbridge Island, WA
Tucson, AZ
http://claybair.com

-----Original Message-----
From:Paul Lewing

on 7/27/05 12:53 PM, Jeanette Harris at monkeymind@COMCAST.NET wrote:

> that's $19,200 net income.
>
> But wait, you must pay taxes on that net income, so
> subtract 25% for taxes: $ 4,800.
> $ 19,200 - $ 4,800 = $ 14,400 Real net income
>
> Divide 12 months into $ 14,400 = $ 1200 per month true income.

But wait! It's not 25% in taxes. It's just over 40% in federal taxes (28%
income tax, 12.3% Social Security and Medicare tax, if you're
self-employed).
So subtract $7680. That's $11520 = $960 per month.
Paul Lewing, Seattle
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bonnie staffel on fri 29 jul 05


income tax, 12.3% Social Security and Medicare tax, if you're
self-employed).
So subtract $7680. That's $11520 = $960 per month.
Paul Lewing, Seattle

No wonder the faster I work, the behinder I get!!!

A touch of reality today.

Bonnie Staffel
http://webpages.charter.net/bstaffel/
http://vasefinder.com/bstaffelgallery1.html
Charter Member Potters Council

Gary Navarre on sat 30 jul 05


On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 08:54:43 -0400, bonnie staffel
wrote:

>(28%
>income tax, 12.3% Social Security and Medicare tax, if you're
>self-employed).
>So subtract $7680. That's $11520 = $960 per month.
>Paul Lewing, Seattle
>
>No wonder the faster I work, the behinder I get!!!
>
>A touch of reality today.
>
>Bonnie Staffel
>http://webpages.charter.net/bstaffel/
>http://vasefinder.com/bstaffelgallery1.html
>Charter Member Potters Council

Holy Wuhu Bonnie,
I'll gross more than that when I go full time at WalMart next month and I
only have to drive 7 miles to work.

G in da UP