Hank Murrow on tue 2 aug 05
On Aug 2, 2005, at 11:14 AM, James and Sherron Bowen wrote:
> Ebay Item #7703504480 is a Shino bowl that I find to be of interest.
> What do
> the members of Clayart have to say about its glaze and the slip that is
> underneath the glaze and in some areas burned through. I notice there
> is no
> orange "fire color" that we would see in the Australian or American
> versions
> of Shino. What about that?
Well, for openers, it was fired in an oxidation part of the kiln and
for that reason received no firecolor. Also it was fired somewhat too
high(C10+) so the glaze has glossed out, which the Momoyamma era ones
do not. If I were considering it for my collection, I would pay maybe
$60 for it. Would look pretty with matcha in it.
Just an opinion from Hank in Eugene
www.murrow.biz/hank
James and Sherron Bowen on tue 2 aug 05
Ebay Item #7703504480 is a Shino bowl that I find to be of interest. What do
the members of Clayart have to say about its glaze and the slip that is
underneath the glaze and in some areas burned through. I notice there is no
orange "fire color" that we would see in the Australian or American versions
of Shino. What about that?
JB
http://cgi.ebay.com/c267-JapaneseMINO-Shino-ware-iron-picture-HIME-tea-bowl_W0QQitemZ7703504480QQcategoryZ29450QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Mike Martino on wed 3 aug 05
This looks like a mass produced bowl with a 'shino-like' treatment.
Here in Japan, you could expect to pay about $20 retail for one, just to
give you a ballpark of what you should expect. Just as they do when they
see many American Shino examples, I suspect Japanese collectors and
artists would call this 'Shino-fu'(Shino-like) rather than Shino.
Normally, with good examples of Shino here, you would see the fire color
(not always though).
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in taku, japan
muchimi@potteryofjapan.com
www.potteryofjapan.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of James and
Sherron Bowen
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 3:15 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Shin Bowl. Please discuss
Ebay Item #7703504480 is a Shino bowl that I find to be of interest.
What do the members of Clayart have to say about its glaze and the slip
that is underneath the glaze and in some areas burned through. I notice
there is no orange "fire color" that we would see in the Australian or
American versions of Shino. What about that? JB
http://cgi.ebay.com/c267-JapaneseMINO-Shino-ware-iron-picture-HIME-tea-b
owl_W0QQitemZ7703504480QQcategoryZ29450QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Lee Love on thu 4 aug 05
From: Hank Murrow
Subject: Re: Shin Bowl. Please discuss
> Ebay Item #7703504480
>Well, for openers, it was fired in an oxidation part of the kiln
Hank,
I think the kiln this was fired, in only had oxidation areas. ;-)
Probably souvenir work you buy on the main street of Mino or in
gift shops at most tourist places. It went for $36.70
--
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Lee Love on thu 4 aug 05
Subject: Re: Shin Bowl. Please discuss
>
> > Ebay Item #7703504480
Check this bowl out by the same seller. A shigaraki hakame bowl. It
is a much better bowl. I think the seller knows that we Americans
like Shino:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7701316912
--
Lee Love
in Mashiko, Japan http://mashiko.org
http://seisokuro.blogspot.com/ My Photo Logs
"The way we are, we are members of each other. All of us. Everything.
The difference ain't in who is a member and who is not, but in who knows it and who don't."
-- Burley Coulter (Wendell Berry)
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