Beach, Sue on fri 12 aug 05
I've been approached by a couple of my friends who would like to use my
studio to do some clay work. One of them has some specific goals in
mind & also has some knowledge of working with clay. The other one is
looking for a social outlet, I think, an informal "class."
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I might consider letting them visit my studio 1 time a week, but I am
not sure how to handle the expense of having others using my space/
equipment/ kiln/ materials. Neither of them would generate enough in
the beginning to justify them buying clay or other materials of their
own, so I'm sure they'd plan to use mine. In addition, whatever they
make will take up space in my kiln. I'm not looking to make money here,
but would prefer that it not cost me anything, either.
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Can anyone suggest ways to cover my costs in this sort of situation
without it becoming too cumbersome? =20
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I'm just trying to grapple with this before I make my decision about
allowing them to use my studio.
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Thanks!
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Sue Beach
BeachWare
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Potters Council Member
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Elizabeth Priddy on fri 12 aug 05
If you charge 5 cents per cubic square inch each time
you fire, you should cover your costs of clay and glaze.
Think about it, 5 inches by 5 inches by 5 inches, a small bowl,
is 5x5x5=125x.05= $6.25 per firing. $3.75 if you charge 3 cents.
It will keep them reasonable. And small.
E
--- "Beach, Sue" wrote:
> I've been approached by a couple of my friends who would like to use
> my
> studio to do some clay work. One of them has some specific goals in
> mind & also has some knowledge of working with clay. The other one
> is
> looking for a social outlet, I think, an informal "class."
>
> I might consider letting them visit my studio 1 time a week, but I am
> not sure how to handle the expense of having others using my space/
> equipment/ kiln/ materials. Neither of them would generate enough in
> the beginning to justify them buying clay or other materials of their
> own, so I'm sure they'd plan to use mine. In addition, whatever they
> make will take up space in my kiln. I'm not looking to make money
> here,
> but would prefer that it not cost me anything, either.
>
> Can anyone suggest ways to cover my costs in this sort of situation
> without it becoming too cumbersome?
>
> I'm just trying to grapple with this before I make my decision about
> allowing them to use my studio.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Sue Beach
> BeachWare
>
> Potters Council Member
>
>
>
>
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Marcia Selsor on fri 12 aug 05
I share space with people and I have gotten very protective of my
personal hand tools, building molds, batts, etc. Some people even
with a lot of knowledge can be very abusive if they don't care about
tools.
Always, check out your replacement costs for clay. Shipping is sky
rocketing along with gas. It is costing me 25% of my clay cost. So if
they use your clay, charge them for the replacement cost to you.
Be sure to go over shop etiquette, respecting the other's work space
and cleanliness. Let them know what you expect in your shop.
It will save on hassles later.
Marcia
On Aug 12, 2005, at 9:31 AM, Beach, Sue wrote:
> I've been approached by a couple of my friends who would like to
> use my
> studio to do some clay work. One of them has some specific goals in
> mind & also has some knowledge of working with clay. The other one is
> looking for a social outlet, I think, an informal "class."
>
> I might consider letting them visit my studio 1 time a week, but I am
> not sure how to handle the expense of having others using my space/
> equipment/ kiln/ materials. Neither of them would generate enough in
> the beginning to justify them buying clay or other materials of their
> own, so I'm sure they'd plan to use mine. In addition, whatever they
> make will take up space in my kiln. I'm not looking to make money
> here,
> but would prefer that it not cost me anything, either.
>
> Can anyone suggest ways to cover my costs in this sort of situation
> without it becoming too cumbersome?
>
> I'm just trying to grapple with this before I make my decision about
> allowing them to use my studio.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Sue Beach
> BeachWare
>
> Potters Council Member
>
Gordon Ward on fri 12 aug 05
Sue,
There are a number of approaches to this. One way, which could work
for your situation, is to have them only use clay provided by you and
you charge them by weight times a factor which takes into account other
materials, utilities, wear and tear on equipment and kilns, and other
overhead expenses. The amount of clay used is perhaps a reasonable
indicator of glaze materials used, firing costs, etc. I can't tell you
what you would actually charge for that pound of clay. I haven't given
it too much thought... $0.75 - $1.00 ? Once you decide, it would be
simple to keep track of.
Hope this helps,
Gordon
On Aug 12, 2005, at 8:31 AM, Beach, Sue wrote:
> I've been approached by a couple of my friends who would like to use my
> studio to do some clay work. One of them has some specific goals in
> mind & also has some knowledge of working with clay. The other one is
> looking for a social outlet, I think, an informal "class."
>
> I might consider letting them visit my studio 1 time a week, but I am
> not sure how to handle the expense of having others using my space/
> equipment/ kiln/ materials. Neither of them would generate enough in
> the beginning to justify them buying clay or other materials of their
> own, so I'm sure they'd plan to use mine. In addition, whatever they
> make will take up space in my kiln. I'm not looking to make money
> here,
> but would prefer that it not cost me anything, either.
>
> Can anyone suggest ways to cover my costs in this sort of situation
> without it becoming too cumbersome?
>
> I'm just trying to grapple with this before I make my decision about
> allowing them to use my studio.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Sue Beach
> BeachWare
>
> Potters Council Member
>
>
>
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John Kudlacek on sat 13 aug 05
Sue, So far you and the people with advise only talked of cost in terms
of dollars and cents. For me the cost of SPACE was prohibitive so I pot
alone. When I fire, I frequently ask friends if they need something
fired. Since they are friends and we share "favors" I do this pro bono.
John Kudlacek
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