dannon rhudy on fri 26 aug 05
The title of "artist" is self-proclaimed. The title of
artist is collector proclaimed. The title of artist
is museum proclaimed. The title of artist is proclaimed
by history, and by the masses, and by the market (oh,
yes it is) and by any who choose
to say "I am an artist" or "he/she/it is an artist". It don't
matter a damn. Let's see the work, and worry about
titles some other day.
regards
Dannon Rhudy
Hank Murrow on fri 26 aug 05
To quote Rumi again......
"No one knows our name until our last breath goes out"
Cheers, Hank 'Had a great time in Kelowna' Murrow
On Aug 26, 2005, at 1:54 PM, Les Haworth wrote:
> I have always said "The title of artist is self-proclaimed." but this
> morning I saw the work of a student who called himself an artist. The
> work
> was cold and sterile. It was the most uninteresting piece of work I
> personally have ever seen. Yet after this potter left the shop I
> thought
> that maybe I was not being open minded enough. Maybe I couldn't see the
> beauty in his piece. Or maybe I was more taken with the fact that this
> student had enough confidence at a much earlier age that I to call
> himself
> an artist. Is the title of artist self-proclaimed?
Leland Hall on fri 26 aug 05
I don't care what anybody calls me, and I think it's kind of sad when
someone needs to care what other people call them. We've all met that
type.
I've been making things of clay for 27 years, and the my goal today when
creating is the same as it was when I started:
The objects must firstly please me. Secondly, they must please my
customers.
If those two criteria are met, then all is well in my world. If not, then
back to the "drawing board".
Leland Hall
Before The Wheel Enterprises
La Pine, Oregon
Snail Scott on fri 26 aug 05
At 04:54 PM 8/26/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>I have always said "The title of artist is self-proclaimed." but this
>morning I saw the work of a student who called himself an artist. The work
>was cold and sterile...
Cold and sterile isn't to my taste, generally,
but it can be intellectually fascinating and
rewarding to see. 'Warm and emotive' is no
guarantee of being good art, and lack of those
properties is no evidence of the opposite.
They express different things, is all.
Marek Cecula's work (for example) is, I think,
sterile in an almost literal sense - he evokes
that aesthetic quite deliberately. It's very
effective art because of that, not in spite of
it.
-Snail
claybair on sat 27 aug 05
So.... when I am asked I need only reply.
I push pigments around on paper, canvas, wood, clay
with water, acrylic, inks, dyes, glazes with a brush or nib.
I also manipulate moist clay into forms which are fired in a kiln
twice to make them hard and then sold to people who use or admire them.
This is silly. It is obvious to me that the word "artist" is
multidimensional and
fits a vast spectrum of realities. It is up to the observer to decide where
one is on that scale.
When I say I am an artist I do not assume that this puts me on any pedestal.
It does not elbow me in between Rembrandt and Hamada.
We have been through this several times. There are good and bad doctors,
lawyers,
politicians, teachers etc. They maintain their title. It's only an
identification label.
Good or bad is determined by the user and observer and is highly subjective.
Gayle Bair - self-proclaimed whatever!
Bainbridge Island, WA
Tucson, AZ
http://claybair.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Hank Murrow
To quote Rumi again......
"No one knows our name until our last breath goes out"
Cheers, Hank 'Had a great time in Kelowna' Murrow
On Aug 26, 2005, at 1:54 PM, Les Haworth wrote:
> I have always said "The title of artist is self-proclaimed." but this
> morning I saw the work of a student who called himself an artist. The
> work
> was cold and sterile. It was the most uninteresting piece of work I
> personally have ever seen. Yet after this potter left the shop I
> thought
> that maybe I was not being open minded enough. Maybe I couldn't see the
> beauty in his piece. Or maybe I was more taken with the fact that this
> student had enough confidence at a much earlier age that I to call
> himself
> an artist. Is the title of artist self-proclaimed?
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Robert W. Anderson on sat 27 aug 05
Way to go Dannon...I agree.
Bob A
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Subject: Re: "Is the title of artist self-proclaimed."
> The title of "artist" is self-proclaimed. The title of
> artist is collector proclaimed. The title of artist
> is museum proclaimed. The title of artist is proclaimed
> by history, and by the masses, and by the market (oh,
> yes it is) and by any who choose
> to say "I am an artist" or "he/she/it is an artist". It don't
> matter a damn. Let's see the work, and worry about
> titles some other day.
>
> regards
>
> Dannon Rhudy
>
>
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