Nancy Udell on tue 13 sep 05
Hello all, I building a studio and trying to work through the best
way to deal with the water run off since we have a septic and the
city will not allow a grey water system using landscaping fabric and
boulders as has been described in many posts. Has anyone ever heard
of using an underground storage tank that would be pumped as a septic
would be pumped? The person I am working with is suggesting this as
a solution. Can clay and glaze sludge be pumped as septic can? Is
there a risk of hardpanning? Alternatively, how safe would a series
of sediment traps be with the water ultimately flowing into the
septic? Does a series of 3 traps, clean regularly, provide enough
protection for the septic system? Thoughts and experience much
appreciated.
Nancy in MD
Jeanette Harris on tue 13 sep 05
>Hello all, I building a studio and trying to work through the best
>way to deal with the water run off since we have a septic and the
>city will not allow a grey water system using landscaping fabric and
>boulders as has been described in many posts. Has anyone ever heard
>of using an underground storage tank that would be pumped as a septic
>would be pumped? The person I am working with is suggesting this as
>a solution. Can clay and glaze sludge be pumped as septic can? Is
>there a risk of hardpanning? Alternatively, how safe would a series
>of sediment traps be with the water ultimately flowing into the
>septic? Does a series of 3 traps, clean regularly, provide enough
>protection for the septic system? Thoughts and experience much
>appreciated.
Hi, Nancy,
I hate to throw a damper on this idea, but I doubt if you would ever
find a septic pumper who would buy into taking up into their truck.
Even if they would, they would not be able to dump it in the same
place that they usually use for disposal.
A septic tank must 'perk' working on the idea that bacteria breaks
down the contents and creates a sludge that is of less mass then the
amount deposited. This is what gets pumped out of every septics 3--5
years. They leave a remitment of sludge in the bottom of the tank to
keep this break-down dynamic going. So, the clay would totally
destroy this. You can't filter or trap out clay.
Also, I doubt that it would be liquid enough to remove. The very best
solution would be to install a clay trap that you empty occasionally.
--
Jeanette Harris
Poulsbo WA
Potter's Council member
Louis Katz on wed 14 sep 05
IMHO
The slower the speed through the trap (the larger the trap) the more
settling you will get. Wider is more effective than taller. If you are
good about the trap you should not have any trouble if it is big
enough.
Louis
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On Sep 13, 2005, at 5:54 PM, Jeanette Harris wrote:
>> Hello all, I building a studio and trying to work through the best
>> way to deal with the water run off since we have a septic and the
>> city will not allow a grey water system using landscaping fabric and
>> boulders as has been described in many posts. Has anyone ever heard
>> of using an underground storage tank that would be pumped as a septic
>> would be pumped? The person I am working with is suggesting this as
>> a solution. Can clay and glaze sludge be pumped as septic can? Is
>> there a risk of hardpanning? Alternatively, how safe would a series
>> of sediment traps be with the water ultimately flowing into the
>> septic? Does a series of 3 traps, clean regularly, provide enough
>> protection for the septic system? Thoughts and experience much
>> appreciated.
>
> Hi, Nancy,
> I hate to throw a damper on this idea, but I doubt if you would ever
> find a septic pumper who would buy into taking up into their truck.
> Even if they would, they would not be able to dump it in the same
> place that they usually use for disposal.
>
> A septic tank must 'perk' working on the idea that bacteria breaks
> down the contents and creates a sludge that is of less mass then the
> amount deposited. This is what gets pumped out of every septics 3--5
> years. They leave a remitment of sludge in the bottom of the tank to
> keep this break-down dynamic going. So, the clay would totally
> destroy this. You can't filter or trap out clay.
>
> Also, I doubt that it would be liquid enough to remove. The very best
> solution would be to install a clay trap that you empty occasionally.
> --
> Jeanette Harris
> Poulsbo WA
>
> Potter's Council member
>
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Raven Tree on wed 14 sep 05
Hi Nancy!
Vince Pitelka published directions for a do-it-yourself clay trap made from
two plastic five gallon buckets in the November/December 2001 issue of
Claytimes magazine.
I've installed this trap in my small studio and it works beautifully. (I
know, because my trap empties into a bucket, and I carry the waste water to
a drain. Yes, we are conservative in our use of water!)
We let heavy clay and glaze remains settle out before pouring off the water.
Generally, the water coming out of the trap is clean enough to reuse should
we choose to.
At this point the trap has been functioning trouble free for over a year.
I can send you a copy of the article if you like.
Pat Clogston
Raven_Tree@att.net
In Asheville, where the sun shines in spite of Ophelia.
TrentonCapp@AOL.COM on thu 15 sep 05
I am also trying to rig up a sink trap. The only one I've seen is a simple
5 gal. bucket with a pipe leading out of the top from a hole cut just under
the top rim. The water drained directly from the sink into the bucket and
when it was full, the overflow would then go into the drain. I don't think it
worked very well because once the pipes leaked downstream of this contraption
and the water was muddy.
Could you send me a copy of that clay times article as well Pat?
_Trentoncapp@aol.com_ (mailto:Trentoncapp@aol.com)
(http://www.cappspotts.com)
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