Bob Nicholson on sun 2 oct 05
I know that many people on this list are members of guilds or =20
groups. If you have a website, one of the best places to list it is =20
"the open directory project" at dmoz.org.
The dmoz directory is edited by volunteer moderators. One problem =20
with this system is that many areas get very little attention. =20
Submissions may languish for months or even years without anyone =20
looking at them.
I have just taken on the editing responsibilities for one small area =20
of the directory: ceramic art organizations.
If you are a member of a ceramic art group or guild, and your =20
organization has a website, please check the directory at http://=20
www.dmoz.org/Arts/Crafts/Ceramic/Organizations/ to see if your site =20
is listed. If not, click the "suggest URL" link at the top of the =20
page and provide the information requested. Look at the other =20
listings to see the "style" that dmoz wants... factual descriptions =20
rather than promotion.
Please note that this section of the director is for ceramic art =20
organizations: guilds, associations, societies, museums, etc. =20
Please don't submit URLs for companies, private galleries, shops, =20
individual artists, etc. Also, don't submit listings for other types =20=
of art organizations... this area of the directory is just for =20
ceramics.
If you have any questions, drop me a note.
- Bob
On Sep 29, 2005, at 9:00 PM, Automatic digest processor wrote:
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> There are 46 messages totalling 2133 lines in this issue.
>
> Topics of the day:
>
> 1. multicoloured glazes
> 2. Reduction Colors (3)
> 3. Off topic: ground squirrels (2)
> 4. pottery wheels (3)
> 5. Karen's battle with the city, long
> 6. Jared (4)
> 7. Slab Roller for sale
> 8. A newbie is a dangerous thing (7)
> 9. Eutectic temperature of Custer Spar according to additions of raw
> materials
> 10. strange message from ebay
> 11. Neophyte has questions on reduction firing (2)
> 12. Val Cushing's Address (3)
> 13. Tahoe Studio
> 14. The International Potters' Path - update September 2005
> 15. The SUCAWS website
> 16. shellac & slip
> 17. Two Great Workshops!!!
> 18. English signs in foreign countries . . .
> 19. What is in a name?
> 20. PRICE CORRECTION: Crystalline Firing Workshop with Kris Friedrich
> 21. Difference between Spodumene? (2)
> 22. Great experience
> 23. Mr. Cushing's address
> 24. Reduction Colors II
> 25. A dog's breakfast (2)
> 26. washed/ unwashed wood ash
> 27. Smart. Counseil
>
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>
> From: fiona wallace
> Date: September 28, 2005 7:28:08 PM PDT
> Subject: multicoloured glazes
>
>
> Or multicolored, depending where you live.
>
>
>
> I'm looking for interesting 1260C (ox) glazes (?around cone 8 - =20
> don't work in cones I'm afraid) that show marked colour changes =20
> with thickness. Emmanuel cooper's 'shocking pink' is a good =20
> example, it's brown (thin) royal blue(medium) and pink/red where =20
> thick. I have another that's green/blue/pink.
>
>
>
> does anyone else have recipes with good, contrasting colours?
>
>
>
> Fiona W.
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all =20
> new Yahoo! Security Centre.
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>
>
> From: Paul Lewing
> Date: September 28, 2005 9:52:02 PM PDT
> Subject: Re: Reduction Colors
>
>
> on 9/28/05 6:27 PM, Dave Finkelnburg at idahopottery@YAHOO.COM wrote:
>
>
>> You have your problem figured out. The glaze you posted is a =20
>> fairly classic
>> high-calcium Oribe. If you are getting a purple or reddish cast =20
>> to the glaze
>> it is due to reduction. You will get more green in oxidation, =20
>> even periodic
>> oxidation. In my experience with this sort of glaze, you won't =20
>> get the copper
>> burning out in a "normal" firing schedule. It will be trapped =20
>> down in the
>> glass. However, you do need fairly mild reduction to even =20
>> oxidation at
>> critical times to prevent forming a form of a copper red. To get =20
>> a really red
>> glaze you would typically use about 5% tin and very little (say =20
>> 0.25%) copper
>> carbonate in the glaze, combined with consistent reduction. The =20
>> tin in the
>> spod glaze may be why you get maroon. You are just on the =20
>> reduction side a
>> little too much right now.
>>
>
> Frank, I pasted Dace's reply here so it could be read again, as it =20
> very
> succinctly sums it up. You are getting red- or at least as red as =20
> you can.
> The one thing I'd add to Dave's comments is that, in addition to =20
> the Sn and
> the Cu and the reduction, to get a real copper red, you also have =20
> to have
> high silica and low alumina. Neither of the two glazes you mention =20=
> fit that
> bill, nor would any combination of the two.
> Paul Lewing, Seattle
> Off to Northern Clay Center in Minneapolis this weekend. Stop in =20
> for the
> slide show on Sunday afternoon, or there's probably still space in the
> workshop. "You, too can LEARN...........TO....PAINT!"
>
>
>
> From: pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET
> Date: September 28, 2005 9:38:22 PM PDT
> Subject: Re: Off topic: ground squirrels
>
>
> Hi Donna,
>
>
> There are small, inexpensive devices which emit hi frequency sounds =20=
> that
> repulse or insult the sensibilities of most small Mammals...these =20
> tending to
> be above the hearing range of most people...
>
> This would drive the Squirrels away harmlessly...or, ideally it would.
>
> Might bother your Dogs if you have any...
>
> But once the Squirrels are no longer up there, you could seal it =20
> off better
> to keep them out from then on.
>
>
> Phil
> el ve
>
>
>
> From: Ann Brink
> Date: September 28, 2005 7:13:23 PM PDT
> Subject: Re: pottery wheels
>
>
> Hello Steve- I have an older Pacifica 400 and love it and I can get =20=
> a very
> slow gradual start with mine. I think someone needs to adjust the =20
> screw on
> the foot pedal of the one you used.
>
> Ann Brink in Lompoc CA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Irvine"
>
>
>
>> Hi Sandy,
>>
>> I used a Pacifica this past weekend at a potters' event organized by
>>
> FUSION, called Clay Olympics.
>
>> It functioned well and was quiet. My only complaint was that the foot
>>
> pedal wouldn't give me a
>
>> nice, smooth start. The wheel motion always started with sort of a =20=
>> jolt.
>>
> In some circumstances it's
>
>> important to have a gradual, slow motion start to the wheel, and I =20=
>> had a
>>
> hard time getting it out of
>
>> the Pacifica.
>>
>> Steve
>> http://www.steveirvine.com
>>
>> On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:45:42 -0400, Sandy =20
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am in the market for a pottery wheel. The top contenders, so =20
>>> far, are
>>> the Shimpo VL Whisper and the Pacifica GT400. I would love to =20
>>> have your
>>> advice, pros and cons, and your opinions on these two wheels.
>>> Sandy
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> From: "Tom at Hutchtel.net"
> Date: September 28, 2005 7:11:37 PM PDT
> Subject: Re: Karen's battle with the city, long
>
>
> Not to belabor the point, and it was recently discussed....
>
>
> but the ignition point of wood can be as low as 160degF. This is =20
> why fire
> departments won't leave until everything's under 150 degF.
>
> Certainly, the wood has to have been exposed to heat for long =20
> periods of
> time before it pyrolizes and gets down to this temp...but it will =20
> happen.
>
> When I lived in Jackson WY, every year a couple of log homes burned =20=
> because
> of this...where a stove pipe had exposed the logs to moderate temps =20=
> over the
> years. Finally they ignited.
>
> I had this brought home to me last year when we burned down our kiln
> building and part of the studio...ignition apparently where the =20
> stack went
> through the roof. Thought we had the clearance and had measured =20
> the temps.
> We had some 500 firings on the kiln.
>
> Yes, we'd better keep our fingers crossed for her.
>
> Tom Wirt
> Hutchinson, MN
> twirt@hutchtel.net
> www.claycoyote.com
>
>
>
> From: John Baymore
> Date: September 28, 2005 7:46:10 PM PDT
> Subject: Re: Jared
>
>
> Hi all.... terribly sad times with this news.
>
> I knew Jared a bit..... and he was the nicest young person.... a =20
> talented
> artist... and very close to his family. And the family has always =20
> been
> quite close with each other. He fought long and hard and bravely =20
> in his
> medical battle. This is one of those situations that bring up all =20
> those
> questions about bad things happening to good people.
>
> As a parent of a similarly aged child...... I cannot imagine what =20
> Steve
> and Ellen and his brother Adam are going through. My heart goes =20
> out to
> them all.
>
> As far as I know right now, the family has requested donations in =20
> Jared's
> memory be made to the Pan-Mass Challenge/The Jimmy Fund Rider =20
> #SB0159 77
> Fourth Ave. Needham, MA 02494
>
> Planting a tree in Israel in Jared's name would also be a good =20
> additional
> touch.
>
>
> ..............john
>
>
> John Baymore
> River Bend Pottery
> 22 Riverbend Way
> Wilton, NH 03086 USA
>
> JBaymore@compuserve.com
> http://www.JohnBaymore.com
>
> "Please use compuserve address for any direct communications."
>
>
>
> From: Nan Thurn Kitchens
> Date: September 29, 2005 7:10:25 AM PDT
> Subject: Slab Roller for sale
>
>
> 30" Northern Slab Roller for sale
> Location: Stuart Florida
> Condition: Excellent, Slightly used
> Age: New in "99, originally paid $1000.
> Price: $650.00
> Shipping: You pick up
> Contact: johnandbev@mindspring.com
>
> This belongs to a friend of mine,
> Bev takes care of her equipment.
> Do not reply to clayart or to me,
> email Bev direct.
>
>
> Nan Thurn Kitchens
> Architectural Clayworks
> Box 371070
> Key Largo Florida 33037
> 305-451-9885
>
>
>
> From: Millie Carpenter
> Date: September 28, 2005 10:38:27 PM PDT
> Subject: Re: Jared
>
>
> this news of Jared's death has been devastating, to say the least. I
> had met
> him at NCECA and was interested in his artistic growth as he was the
> same age
> as my son. =46rom what I saw of him, he was a child to be proud of,
> talented and
> very well mannered.
>
> Flowers are not really necessary as we don't really do viewings, by
> Jewish law, one
> must be buried within 72 hours. and then we sit shiva with the =20
> family,
> which is that
> there is a prayer service at the home every day for up to a week.
> after the service there is coffee and cake and people usually spend
> part of the time talking about the person and sharing their =20
> memories of
> him/her with the family and so the family is alone during that =20
> time.
> During our regular Shabbat services there is a short memorial service
> where the names of people who have died during the past 12 months are
> read, and the family goes to services and that keeps them from
> withdrawing.
>
> After life views will vary as Jews rarely agree on anything. ;-) =20=
> But
> basically the soul
> that G-d breathed in to one at birth, goes back to G-d. the Jewish
> concept for hell is basically it is to be kept far from G-d. But we
> don't have the same heaven-hell concept that most Christians & Muslims
> have. Like everything else in Judaism I would suggest
> that you check with your local Rav. (Rabbi, teacher, judge) because
> for every two Jews there are al least three opinions.
>
> on the tree plantings, if planting a memorial tree is not convenient
> for you, minhagim (custom) is that you contribute to the Jewish =20
> Nation
> Fund whose goal is to plant trees and bring water to the desert in
> Israel.
>
> http://www.jnf.org/
>
> The Branfmans' have had a very difficult time. and I know that =20
> Jared's
> memory will be a blessing to us from both his artistic ability and =20=
> his
> courage. I will contribute to both the cancer fund that they
> participated in and plant trees in Israel.
>
> Millie in Md my thoughts keep turning to upcoming High Holidays that
> start next week.
> one of the many customs on Rosh Ha Shannah is to dip apples and bread
> into honey to symbolize that the new year should be free from hunger
> and want and full of sweetness in life. And May this be granted for
> the Branfman's, and may G-d keep further sorrow from their door.
>
>
> On Sep 27, 2005, at 4:38 PM, Cynthia Bracker wrote:
>
> It is my understanding that in the Jewish faith, (perhaps someone can
> elaborate or correct me on this) flowers are not typically sent as
> the funeral does not focus on cheering up the bereaved, but rather
> mourning the loss of a loved one. I also believe that it is Jewish
> custom for the family to sit "Shiva" for anywhere from 1 to 7 days.
> This is all information I learned from various websites dealing with
> Jewish funeral customs. I wanted to pass it along, because as a
> Christian myself, my first instinct would be to have flowers sent,
> which is seems is not appropriate. I thought others on this list
> might be like-minded.
>
> I don't know what the Jewish beliefs are about afterlife, but I can't
> help but think of Jared as being in a place of no more pain and
> suffering, a place where he can work with clay and go cycling and do
> all the other things that he loves. It comforts me to think of him
> that way. Yet at the same time, I am overcome by grief and sympathy
> for dear Steve, Ellen, and Adam. I continue to pray for them.
>
> Cindy Bracker
> Bracker's Good Earth Clays, Inc.
> 888-822-1982
> http://www.brackers.com
>
>
>
> From: David Sieja
> Date: September 28, 2005 8:22:23 PM PDT
> Subject: A newbie is a dangerous thing
>
>
> Hello all, I=92ve been lurking for a while but finally thought I=92d =20=
> jump in and
> ask a silly question. As the subject suggests I do realize that =20
> Newbies can
> be very dangerous. Here is the mess I=92ve created:
>
> I got my September issue of Ceramics Monthly and fell in love with the
> Ketchup Red glaze in Jayne Shatz article =93The Oxidation =20
> Reverberation=94.
> Checking my supplies I had all of the ingredients except the =20
> Spanish Red
> Iron Oxide, but I searched the archives and found it compared to =20
> regular Red
> Iron Oxide and several posts that said the difference did not =20
> affect the
> results. I went happily on my way, mixed a 2000 gram batch and =20
> fired up the
> kiln. What I got can kindly be referred to as baby poop brown.
>
> OK I thought, maybe the difference in Iron Oxides really is that =20
> great, so I
> ordered Spanish Red from Laguna and happily went on my merry way =20
> again.
> Yep, you guessed it; there was very little difference in the =20
> results. Baby
> poop brown again.
>
> I fired the tests in two different kilns, one with a digital =20
> controller (to
> cone 6) and one with a sitter, and in the sitter kiln I used a cone =20=
> 6 once
> and a cone 7 another time.
>
> Has anyone had success with this glaze recipe? Any ideas, =20
> suggestions or
> advice will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
> David Sieja
> Yaki Tam Pottery
> yakitam.pottery@sbcglobal.net
>
>
>
> From: "Edouard Bastarache Inc."
> Date: September 29, 2005 8:43:45 AM PDT
> Subject: Eutectic temperature of Custer Spar according to additions =20=
> of raw materials
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> The French Connection rides again and as Casey Stengel once said:
> "It ain't over til it is over"
>
> More to come!!!
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/47728798/
>
>
>
> "Ils sont fous ces quebecois"
> "They are insane these quebekers"
> "Est=E1n locos estos quebequeses"
> Edouard Bastarache
> Irreductible Quebecois
> Indomitable Quebeker
> Sorel-Tracy
> Quebec
> edouardb@sorel-tracy.qc.ca
> www.sorel-tracy.qc.ca/~edouardb/Welcome.html
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/
> http://perso.wanadoo.fr/smart2000/index.htm
> http://www.digitalfire.com/education/toxicity/
>
>
>
> From: Marianne Lombardo
> Date: September 29, 2005 8:22:16 AM PDT
> Subject: Re: strange message from ebay
>
>
> Hi John,
>
> Just ignore them. I get several a day, as well as ones from Paypal. =20=
> Anything
> that is truly from eBay will show up in your MYEBAY message area.
>
> You will notice if you place your cursor on the links inside those =20
> messages
> and look at the status line at the bottom of outlook express, the =20
> link will
> point to somewhere else, with perhaps ebay.com added onto it.
>
> Marianne
> Omemee, Ontario
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ashburn Pottery Inc."
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 9:28 AM
> Subject: Re: strange message from ebay
>
>
>
>> ---------------------- Information from the mail
>> header -----------------------
>> Sender: Clayart
>> Poster: "Ashburn Pottery Inc."
>> Subject: Re: strange message from ebay
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------=20=
>> ----------
>>
>> Hi Clayart friends
>>
>> I've received messages I consider suspicious. I'm asked to update
>> information or else my Paypal account will be suspended. I =20
>> ignored and
>> deleted them.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>> John Bandurchin
>> Baltimore Ontario Canada
>>
>> _____________________________________________________________________=20=
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> From: Paul Herman
> Date: September 29, 2005 8:29:58 AM PDT
> Subject: Re: Neophyte has questions on reduction firing
>
>
> Hi Frank,
>
> I don't differentiate between body and glaze reduction. In order to
> get a properly reduced body, I try to reduce before the clay
> vitrifies. Same with the glaze. Reduce before the glaze starts to
> melt, and seals itself off. The flame is stealing oxygen from the
> glazes too, which will for example turn your copper red.
>
> After the initial rather heavy reduction at 1600F-1850F, I continue a
> light reduction until the end of the firing. I'm not sure if some
> periods of oxidation would cause trouble, but do what seems to work.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Paul Herman
>
> Great Basin Pottery
> Doyle, California US
> greatbasinpottery.com
>
>
> On Sep 28, 2005, at 2:32 PM, Frank J. wrote:
>
>
>> Paul, thank you for your reply.
>>
>> We picked up a used pugmill last winter and Jeri has been recycling
>> all
>> the old dried out bags around the studio and I guess some low fire
>> clay
>> got mixed in. The lowfire clay is distributed in varying quantities
>> thru out many of the pots, but that is a simple issue to avoid in the
>> future.
>>
>> I would like a little clarification regarding the reduction
>> comments you
>> made below. In one case you are talking about the flame being hungry
>> for oxygen and it taking it from the ware. I assume you are
>> speaking of
>> "body reduction" at this point. I understand that that needs to
>> happen
>> before the glaze begins to liquefy, but why is it done other than to
>> change the color of the underlaying clay body? In your second =20
>> comment
>> you seem to be talking about body reduction again, yes?
>>
>> I am still not clear about the reduction with the glaze and when this
>> should be happening. Can you do body reduction, go back to an
>> oxidizing
>> atmosphere and then return to reduction at say ^9 for a ^10 =20
>> firing, or
>> does the kiln need to be in reduction during the entire process of
>> glass
>> formation?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Frank
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> From: Charles Moore
> Date: September 29, 2005 8:35:32 AM PDT
> Subject: Val Cushing's Address
>
>
> Could someone give me Val Cushing's address?
>
> Charles Moore
>
> (Note that my email address lacks a final "e" on my last name)
>
>
>
> From: Sheri Leigh
> Date: September 29, 2005 11:32:34 AM PDT
> Subject: Tahoe Studio
>
>
> Hi,
> I couldn't find the post about Tahoe studio space as I scrolled =20
> through
> over 2,000 lines. Anyway, we offer a Continuing Education class at
> Sierra Nevada College in Incline Village, (north Tahoe). We don't rent
> studio space, but it might be a place for you to work. Please =20
> contact me
> for more info.
>
> Our faculty show opens tonight at 5pm in the Tahoe Gallery in the Prim
> Library on our Lake Campus.
>
> Thanks,
> Sheri
>
>
> Sheri Leigh
> Summer Workshops Director
> Professor, Ceramics
> Sierra Nevada College
> 999 Tahoe Blvd.
> Incline Village, NV 89451 USA
> 775.831.7799 x5039
> sleigh@sierranevada.edu
> www.sierranevada.edu/workshops
> www.sierranevada.edu/ceramics
>
>
>
> From: Rikki Gill
> Date: September 29, 2005 12:23:42 PM PDT
> Subject: Re: Jared
>
>
> Millie,
>
> As a Jewish member of the list, albeit a non observant one, I thank =20=
> you for
> very sweetly explaining our thoughts and customs.
> Monday night is "erev Rosh ha Shana" the eve of our new year. =20
> Very sad
> this year because of the loss to the many sub worlds that Jared =20
> belonged to.
> My thoughts are with the Branfman family.
> Best wishes to all,
>
> Rikki Gill
>
>
> [ and so the family is alone during that time.] I took that from =20=
> the body
> of your message, but I think you mean, "is not alone".
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Millie Carpenter"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 10:38 PM
> Subject: Re: Jared
>
>
>
>> this news of Jared's death has been devastating, to say the least. I
>> had met
>> him at NCECA and was interested in his artistic growth as he was the
>> same age
>> as my son. =46rom what I saw of him, he was a child to be proud of,
>> talented and
>> very well mannered.
>>
>> Flowers are not really necessary as we don't really do viewings, by
>> Jewish law, one
>> must be buried within 72 hours. and then we sit shiva with the =20
>> family,
>> which is that > there is a prayer service at the home every =20
>> day for
>>
> up to a week.
>
>> after the service there is coffee and cake and people usually spend
>> part of the time talking about the person and sharing their =20
>> memories of
>> him/her with the family > [See above...Rikki]
>>
> During our regular Shabbat services there is a short memorial =20
> service
>
>> where the names of people who have died during the past 12 months =20=
>> are
>> read, and the family goes to services and that keeps them from
>> withdrawing.
>>
>> After life views will vary as Jews rarely agree on =20
>> anything. ;-) But
>> basically the soul
>> that G-d breathed in to one at birth, goes back to G-d. the Jewish
>> concept for hell is basically it is to be kept far from G-d. But we
>> don't have the same heaven-hell concept that most Christians & =20
>> Muslims
>> have. Like everything else in Judaism I would suggest
>> that you check with your local Rav. (Rabbi, teacher, judge) because
>> for every two Jews there are al least three opinions.
>>
>> on the tree plantings, if planting a memorial tree is not convenient
>> for you, minhagim (custom) is that you contribute to the Jewish =20
>> Nation
>> Fund whose goal is to plant trees and bring water to the desert in
>> Israel.
>>
>> http://www.jnf.org/
>>
>> The Branfmans' have had a very difficult time. and I know that =20
>> Jared's
>> memory will be a blessing to us from both his artistic ability =20
>> and his
>> courage. I will contribute to both the cancer fund that they
>> participated in and plant trees in Israel.
>>
>> Millie in Md my thoughts keep turning to upcoming High Holidays that
>> start next week.
>> one of the many customs on Rosh Ha Shannah is to dip apples and bread
>> into honey to symbolize that the new year should be free from hunger
>> and want and full of sweetness in life. And May this be granted for
>> the Branfman's, and may G-d keep further sorrow from their door.
>>
>>
>> On Sep 27, 2005, at 4:38 PM, Cynthia Bracker wrote:
>>
>> It is my understanding that in the Jewish faith, (perhaps someone can
>> elaborate or correct me on this) flowers are not typically sent as
>> the funeral does not focus on cheering up the bereaved, but rather
>> mourning the loss of a loved one. I also believe that it is Jewish
>> custom for the family to sit "Shiva" for anywhere from 1 to 7 days.
>> This is all information I learned from various websites dealing with
>> Jewish funeral customs. I wanted to pass it along, because as a
>> Christian myself, my first instinct would be to have flowers sent,
>> which is seems is not appropriate. I thought others on this list
>> might be like-minded.
>>
>> I don't know what the Jewish beliefs are about afterlife, but I can't
>> help but think of Jared as being in a place of no more pain and
>> suffering, a place where he can work with clay and go cycling and do
>> all the other things that he loves. It comforts me to think of him
>> that way. Yet at the same time, I am overcome by grief and sympathy
>> for dear Steve, Ellen, and Adam. I continue to pray for them.
>>
>> Cindy Bracker
>> Bracker's Good Earth Clays, Inc.
>> 888-822-1982
>> http://www.brackers.com
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> From: The Chapel of Art
> Date: September 29, 2005 12:37:18 PM PDT
> Subject: The International Potters' Path - update September 2005
>
>
> We are commissioning a panel off the potter Ned
> Heywood, who is better known for his marvellous
> reduction oxblood bowls, which ring like bells!
> Ned has kindly agreed to make a panel of 15 x 10
> tiles to inform walkers the it is "The
> International Potters' Path made by Potters from
> around the world". The logo of a world globe
> with people holding hands around it will be
> included.
>
> This is to finish off The Path... at least from
> our point of view. It was started in 1997, but it
> still needs hundreds more tiles to complete.
> Although hundreds have already taken part, a huge
> number of countries around the world remain
> unrepresented. But we are unable to continue this
> project ourselves and the incomplete Path is
> preventing us selling the building/business. We
> trust that the future owners of The Chapel of Art
> will be able to complete "Phase III" at some
> point, but this will remain an uncertainty until
> we know who our successors may be.
>
> Given the economy and local trends, we must be
> prepared for anything. This could mean
> like-minded people take over, but it could also
> mean that a property speculator could buy The CoA
> and make it into holiday apartments. We just will
> not know until we sell!
>
> In the meantime, we are "putting our money where
> our mouth is" once again. Phase II should be
> completed during the autumn, once Ned finds time
> to make the panel and we collect it from his
> South Wales workshop/studio/gallery, so Himself
> can finish the area to the right of the entrance.
>
> We are saddened that we have not been able to
> complete The Path, but we have spent ten years
> trying to make it a reality and not just a dream
> about international co-operation between potters
> & clay artists around the world. Those who have
> taken part will also be very sad to hear that
> others did not follow the call, but that's how it
> is...
>
> "The path to hell is paved with good intentions"
> will remain the motto for The Path. All those
> potters who thought it was a tremendous idea, but
> then did not send a tile are to blame for this
> not being a good news message!
>
> The CoA website is sadly out of date, but I shall
> try to get it sorted for including our "final
> addition" by the end of the year.
>
> Should any Clayarter who has not already taken
> part (so many have!) now wish to send a tile at
> the last minute, they are naturally more than
> welcome to do so... It will save us using tiles
> which would make the Path unsafe for walking
> across or even commercial tiles to fill spaces.
> To ensure last-minute arrivals are used, we need
> them the arrive here by mid October.
>
> Sincerely
>
> Janet Kaiser
> THE CHAPEL OF ART - or - CAPEL CELFYDDYD
> 8 Marine Crescent : Criccieth : GB-Wales LL52 0EA
>
> Plan visiting The International Potters Path?
> Contact: Janet Kaiser
> Tel: ++44 (01766) 523122
> http://www.the-coa.org.uk
>
>
>
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>
> From: The Chapel of Art
> Date: September 29, 2005 12:37:17 PM PDT
> Subject: The SUCAWS website
>
>
> Could the following individuals please nota bene:
>
> AERNI Richard =95 USA
> BAIR Gayle =95 USA
> BARZEGAR Shokoofeh =95 Iran
> CAMPBELL Chris =95 USA
> CLAUSEN Alisa =95 Denmark
> CLENNELL Tony =95 Canada
> CULLEN Jim =95 USA
> ECHLIN Diane =95 USA
> FOX Mary =95 Canada
> GASKELL Geoffrey =95 New Zealand
> GIRRELL Bruce & Lynne =95 USA
> JAROSZ Cat =95 USA
> KOLLER George =95 USA
> KRISTOFFY Joyce A =95 USA
> MARTENS Lela =95 Canada
> MARTENS Toni =95 South Africa
> POBURKA Philip =95 USA
> RAGHAVAN Veena =95 USA
> SCOTT Snail =95 USA
> STEARNS Fran =95 USA
> WHITE Catherine =95 USA
>
> Helen Bates has mailed me to say that SUCAWS is
> down (again), so I am just warning everyone that
> if it has been deleted by the ISP (which is what
> it looks like to me), I am definitely not able to
> rebuild the site and there is also little
> likelihood I shall be able (or even willing) to
> do so in the future. I hope to mail everyone
> individually, but some e-mail addresses seem to
> have gone astray and I am not here more than a
> few minutes per day.
>
> No... I do not have a backup version which spans
> across two 15Mb sites due to all the many images,
> so there is not easy way to repair the damage. It
> was a free web space, so no good ranting and
> raving at the ISP at this stage (although I do
> have other issues with them, their censorship of
> email from chosen ISPs and/or whole countries!)
>
> As many of you know, I am not well, which means I
> am currently unable to edit what is/was there
> anyhow. My sincere apologies to everyone, but
> taking everything into account, this could well
> be the end of the road for SUCAWS.
>
> IMHO it is better to have no site at all than an
> outdated, incorrect one in need of
> editing/correction/radical updating. This is sad
> for those who have no other web exposure, but now
> there are blogs and other devices available to
> even the worst of techno-phobes, I do hope they
> will find a suitable and more reliable
> alternative to SUCAWS!
>
> I am just very cross that all the archive section
> (inc. photos of Aberystwyth 2003 and other
> Clayart events taken by May L, Russel F, Jacqui
> K, Marcia S et al) have very probably been lost!
> Not to mention all the many hours spent creating
> the site... Oh, well...
>
> In the light of recent events - both nationally
> and internationally - the loss of a web site or
> two is so trivial, it seems crude to even mention
> it!
>
> Sincerely
>
> Janet Kaiser
>
>
>
> THE CHAPEL OF ART - or - CAPEL CELFYDDYD
> 8 Marine Crescent : Criccieth : GB-Wales LL52 0EA
>
> Plan visiting The International Potters Path?
> Contact: Janet Kaiser
> Tel: ++44 (01766) 523122
> http://www.the-coa.org.uk
>
>
>
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>
>
> From: Heloisa Nunes
> Date: September 29, 2005 10:14:02 AM PDT
> Subject: Re: shellac & slip
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I don't know about the slip, but I imagien it works the same way as =20=
> I made
> a
> pot in class once:
> Stain the pot (we used mason stains, cobalt etc)
> Decorate with shellac (we threw with a large brush in order to get =20
> large
> free flowing brush strokes),
> Remove with a sponge and the shellac will protect the areas covered =20=
> by it.
> It will also leave a relief if you take a lot (what can be very =20
> nice - I
> made a water bottle written H2O )
> It works better in porcelain and other bodies that have less grog =20
> because
> the sponde will take away particles and leave the big ones behind,
> therefore
> making it rough.
>
> Best of luck and have fun with it!!!
> Heloisa Nunes
>
>
>
> From: GEIL KILNS
> Date: September 29, 2005 10:08:53 AM PDT
> Subject: Two Great Workshops!!!
>
>
> Great news!!
>
> Geil Kilns is proud to announce two new workshops!! Our third
> Geil/Coleman Firing Workshop and a Crystalline Firing Workshop with =20=
> Kris
> Friedrich.
>
> The Geil/Coleman Firing Workshop is a 3-day workshop with Tom Coleman
> and Paul Geil covering Coleman glazes and kiln firing. Topics will
> include glaze applications, spraying techniques, firing in Geil
> Downdraft Kiln and use of kiln controllers.
> Breakfast & Lunch will be complimentary!
>
> Date: January 28th, 29th & 30th, 2006
> Location: Geil Kilns
> 7201 Clay Avenue
> Huntington Beach, CA 92648
> Price: $225.00
> Contact: Sofia Boubakir
> 800-887-4345 email: geil@kilns.com
>
> The Crystalline Firing Workshop with Kris Friedrich will be a 2-day
> workshop. Kris will demonstrate his latest crystalline firing =20
> techniques
> using a Geil Computerized Gas Downdraft Kiln. Don't miss this one!!
> Breakfast & Lunch will be complimentary!
>
> Date: February 18th & 19th, 2006
> Location: Geil Kilns
> 7201 Clay Avenue
> Huntington beach, CA 92648
> Price: $225.00
> Contact: Sofia Boubakir
> 800-887-4345 email: geil@kilns.com
>
>
>
> From: "Edouard Bastarache Inc."
> Date: September 29, 2005 10:29:50 AM PDT
> Subject: English signs in foreign countries . . .
>
>
> In a Bangkok temple:
> "IT IS FORBIDDEN TO ENTER A WOMAN, EVEN A FOREIGNER, IF
> DRESSED AS A MAN."
>
> Cocktail lounge, Norway:
> "LADIES ARE REQUESTED NOT TO HAVE CHILDREN IN THE BAR."
>
> Doctors office, Rome:
> "SPECIALIST IN WOMEN AND OTHER DISEASES.
>
> Dry cleaners, Bangkok:
> "DROP YOUR TROUSERS HERE FOR THE BEST RESULTS.
>
> In a Nairobi restaurant:
> "CUSTOMERS WHO FIND OUR WAITRESSES RUDE OUGHT TO SEE =20=
> THE
> MANAGER."
>
> On an Athi River highway: this is the main road to
> Mombasa, leaving Nairobi.
> "TAKE NOTICE: WHEN THIS SIGN IS UNDER WATER, THIS =20
> ROAD IS
> IMPASSABLE."
>
> On a poster at Kencom:
> "ARE YOU AN ADULT THAT CANNOT READ? IF SO, WE CAN =20
> HELP."
>
> In a City restaurant:
> "OPEN SEVEN DAYS A WEEK AND WEEKENDS."
>
> A sign seen on an automatic restroom hand dryer:
> "DO NOT ACTIVATE WITH WET HANDS."
>
> In a cemetery:
> "PERSONS ARE PROHIBITED FROM PICKING FLOWERS FROM =20
> ANY BUT
> THEIR OWN GRAVES."
>
> Tokyo hotel's rules and regulations:
> "GUESTS ARE REQUESTED NOT TO SMOKE OR DO OTHER =20
> DISGUSTING
> BEHAVIOURS IN BED."
>
> On the menu of a Swiss restaurant:
> "OUR WINES LEAVE YOU NOTHING TO HOPE FOR."
>
> In a Tokyo bar:
> "SPECIAL COCKTAILS FOR THE LADIES WITH NUTS."
>
> Hotel, Yugoslavia:
> "THE FLATTENING OF UNDERWEAR WITH PLEASURE IS THE =20
> JOB OF
> THE CHAMBERMAID."
>
> Hotel, Japan:
> "YOU ARE INVITED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE CHAMBERMAID."
>
> In the lobby of a Moscow hotel across from a Russian
> Orthodox monastery:
> "YOU ARE WELCOME TO VISIT THE CEMETERY WHERE FAMOUS =20
> RUSSIAN
> AND SOVIET COMPOSERS, ARTISTS, AND WRITERS ARE =20
> BURIED DAILY
> EXCEPT THURSDAY."
>
> A sign posted in Germany's Black Forest:
> "IT IS STRICTLY FORBIDDEN ON OUR BLACK FOREST =20
> CAMPING SITE
> THAT PEOPLE OF DIFFERENT SEX, FOR INSTANCE, MEN AND =20=
> WOMEN,
> LIVE TOGETHER IN ONE TENT UNLESS THEY ARE MARRIED =20
> WITH EACH
> OTHER FOR THIS PURPOSE."
>
> Hotel, Zurich:
> "BECAUSE OF THE IMPROPRIETY OF ENTERTAINING GUESTS =20
> OF THE
> OPPOSITE SEX IN THE BEDROOM, IT IS SUGGESTED THAT THE
> LOBBY BE USED FOR THIS PURPOSE."
>
> Advertisement for donkey rides, Thailand:
> "WOULD YOU LIKE TO RIDE ON YOUR OWN ASS?"
>
> The box of a clockwork toy made in Hong Kong:
> "GUARANTEED TO WORK THROUGHOUT ITS USEFUL LIFE."
>
> In a Swiss mountain inn:
> "SPECIAL TODAY - NO ICE-CREAM."
>
> Airline ticket office, Copenhagen:
> "WE TAKE YOUR BAGS AND SEND THEM IN ALL DIRECTIONS."
>
> A laundry in Rome:
> "LADIES, LEAVE YOUR CLOTHES HERE AND SPEND THE =20
> AFTERNOON
> HAVING A GOOD TIME."
>
>
>
>
>
> "Ils sont fous ces quebecois"
> "They are insane these quebekers"
> "Est=E1n locos estos quebequeses"
> Edouard Bastarache
> Irreductible Quebecois
> Indomitable Quebeker
> Sorel-Tracy
> Quebec
> edouardb@sorel-tracy.qc.ca
> www.sorel-tracy.qc.ca/~edouardb/Welcome.html
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/
> http://perso.wanadoo.fr/smart2000/index.htm
> http://www.digitalfire.com/education/toxicity/
>
>
>
> From: marianne kuiper milks
> Date: September 29, 2005 10:13:02 AM PDT
> Subject: Re: Val Cushing's Address
>
>
> Charles (w/o e) - when you get Val Cushing's address,
> would you be so kind to pass it on to me as well? I
> just missed him this past summer in Alfred and have a
> workshop question.
> Thanks a lot and ahave a great day.
>
> Marianne Kuiper Milks
>
> --- Charles Moore wrote:
>
>
>> Could someone give me Val Cushing's address?
>>
>> Charles Moore
>>
>> (Note that my email address lacks a final "e" on my
>> last name)
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
>
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>
> From: Steve Irvine
> Date: September 29, 2005 10:11:23 AM PDT
> Subject: Re: pottery wheels
>
>
> Hi Ann,
>
> That's good to hear. It seemed like a good wheel otherwise. Now if =20
> someone else has this small
> issue with the wheel they'll know how to fix it.
>
> Steve
> http://www.steveirvine.com
> =46rom Big Bay, Ont. where I received my first snow blower ad of the =20=
> year in the mail today.
>
> On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:13:23 -0700, Ann Brink =20=
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Steve- I have an older Pacifica 400 and love it and I can =20
>> get a very
>> slow gradual start with mine. I think someone needs to adjust the =20=
>> screw on
>> the foot pedal of the one you used.
>>
>> Ann Brink in Lompoc CA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> From: Ann Brink
> Date: September 29, 2005 10:36:24 AM PDT
> Subject: Re: A newbie is a dangerous thing
>
>
> Hello David,
>
> Hey, don't feel alone. I am struggling with the same thing. The =20
> recipe you
> refer to is the same as one I've used for several years under the =20
> name of
> "Touchtone Red". The last two batches are just not right. The =20
> color I've
> been getting is what I call "muck" (dairy farmers will recognize =20
> the term".
> Please look at my bits & pieces blog for a more detailed saga of =20
> this glaze.
> http://annsgoodies.blogspot.com
>
> After reading the article by Jayne Shatz, I have been thinking of =20
> ordering
> the Spanish Red oxide- surely that would be the solution, I =20
> thought. Guess
> you've saved me the trouble. I think the answer lies in the holding =20=
> and
> cooldown methods. Next time I will try a longer hold at the top =20
> temp (cone
> 7), and repeat the slow cooldown. I do it with my switches. Maybe =20
> I should
> only go to cone 6.
>
> I could not believe the red on that goblet in the article! I don't =20=
> even
> want that red. The one I used to get is what I want....like on =20
> "Red Dancer"
> on my blog.
>
> Ann Brink in Lompoc CA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Sieja"
>
>
> Hello all, I've been lurking for a while but finally thought I'd =20
> jump in and
> ask a silly question. As the subject suggests I do realize that =20
> Newbies can
> be very dangerous. Here is the mess I've created:
>
> I got my September issue of Ceramics Monthly and fell in love with the
> Ketchup Red glaze in Jayne Shatz article "The Oxidation =20
> Reverberation".
> Checking my supplies I had all of the ingredients except the =20
> Spanish Red
> Iron Oxide, but I searched the archives and found it compared to =20
> regular Red
> Iron Oxide and several posts that said the difference did not =20
> affect the
> results. I went happily on my way, mixed a 2000 gram batch and =20
> fired up the
> kiln. What I got can kindly be referred to as baby poop brown.
>
> OK I thought, maybe the difference in Iron Oxides really is that =20
> great, so I
> ordered Spanish Red from Laguna and happily went on my merry way =20
> again.
> Yep, you guessed it; there was very little difference in the =20
> results. Baby
> poop brown again.
>
> I fired the tests in two different kilns, one with a digital =20
> controller (to
> cone 6) and one with a sitter, and in the sitter kiln I used a cone =20=
> 6 once
> and a cone 7 another time.
>
> Has anyone had success with this glaze recipe? Any ideas, =20
> suggestions or
> advice will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
> David Sieja
> Yaki Tam Pottery
> yakitam.pottery@sbcglobal.net
>
>
>
> From: Cynthia Bracker
> Date: September 29, 2005 10:01:34 AM PDT
> Subject: Re: Jared
>
>
> Thank you, Millie not only for the lovely words you spoke of Jared,
> but also for the information about Jewish beliefs.
> I am flying out to Boston on Saturday morning to be with Steve, Ellen
> & Adam and sit shiva with them. Should anyone like to send a message
> with me for Steve, please feel free to e-mail me privately. I will
> deliver all messages. I also wanted to draw your attention to 2
> places where you may go and post publicly viewable thoughts,
> comments, stories, memories etc. about Jared. The first is the e-
> guestbook on the Boston Globe website: http://www.legacy.com/
> bostonglobe/Guestbook.asp?Page=3DGuestbook&PersonID=3D15234492 This =
will
> remain online until October 28th. The other place is the Blog on our
> website: http://www.brackers.com/blog/blog.html which will be up
> indefinitely. The posting on Jared is the most recent, so it is
> currently the very top post.
> Charles Moore, I believe will also be collecting fond memories and
> such at some point in the future to send on to Steve and family.
> In addition to the donations to PanMass Challenge/Jimmy Fund and tree
> plantings, I would suggest that after a couple of months, everyone on
> this list buy the next pottery book you want from The Potters Shop.
> Don't get it from Amazon or Barnes and Noble or even Bracker's Good
> Earth Clays. Buy it from The Potter's Shop. He has every book you
> could ever want anyway.
>
> Cindy Bracker
> Bracker's Good Earth Clays, Inc.
> 888-822-1982
> http://www.brackers.com
>
>
> On Sep 29, 2005, at 12:38 AM, Millie Carpenter wrote:
>
>
>> this news of Jared's death has been devastating, to say the least. I
>> had met
>> him at NCECA and was interested in his artistic growth as he was the
>> same age
>> as my son. =46rom what I saw of him, he was a child to be proud of,
>> talented and
>> very well mannered.
>>
>> Flowers are not really necessary as we don't really do viewings, by
>> Jewish law, one
>> must be buried within 72 hours. and then we sit shiva with the
>> family,
>> which is that
>> there is a prayer service at the home every day for up to a week.
>> after the service there is coffee and cake and people usually spend
>> part of the time talking about the person and sharing their
>> memories of
>> him/her with the family and so the family is alone during that
>> time.
>> During our regular Shabbat services there is a short memorial =20
>> service
>> where the names of people who have died during the past 12 months =20=
>> are
>> read, and the family goes to services and that keeps them from
>> withdrawing.
>>
>> After life views will vary as Jews rarely agree on anything. ;-)
>> But
>> basically the soul
>> that G-d breathed in to one at birth, goes back to G-d. the Jewish
>> concept for hell is basically it is to be kept far from G-d. But we
>> don't have the same heaven-hell concept that most Christians & =20
>> Muslims
>> have. Like everything else in Judaism I would suggest
>> that you check with your local Rav. (Rabbi, teacher, judge) because
>> for every two Jews there are al least three opinions.
>>
>> on the tree plantings, if planting a memorial tree is not convenient
>> for you, minhagim (custom) is that you contribute to the Jewish
>> Nation
>> Fund whose goal is to plant trees and bring water to the desert in
>> Israel.
>>
>> http://www.jnf.org/
>>
>> The Branfmans' have had a very difficult time. and I know that
>> Jared's
>> memory will be a blessing to us from both his artistic ability and
>> his
>> courage. I will contribute to both the cancer fund that they
>> participated in and plant trees in Israel.
>>
>> Millie in Md my thoughts keep turning to upcoming High Holidays that
>> start next week.
>> one of the many customs on Rosh Ha Shannah is to dip apples and bread
>> into honey to symbolize that the new year should be free from hunger
>> and want and full of sweetness in life. And May this be granted for
>> the Branfman's, and may G-d keep further sorrow from their door.
>>
>>
>> On Sep 27, 2005, at 4:38 PM, Cynthia Bracker wrote:
>>
>> It is my understanding that in the Jewish faith, (perhaps someone can
>> elaborate or correct me on this) flowers are not typically sent as
>> the funeral does not focus on cheering up the bereaved, but rather
>> mourning the loss of a loved one. I also believe that it is Jewish
>> custom for the family to sit "Shiva" for anywhere from 1 to 7 days.
>> This is all information I learned from various websites dealing with
>> Jewish funeral customs. I wanted to pass it along, because as a
>> Christian myself, my first instinct would be to have flowers sent,
>> which is seems is not appropriate. I thought others on this list
>> might be like-minded.
>>
>> I don't know what the Jewish beliefs are about afterlife, but I can't
>> help but think of Jared as being in a place of no more pain and
>> suffering, a place where he can work with clay and go cycling and do
>> all the other things that he loves. It comforts me to think of him
>> that way. Yet at the same time, I am overcome by grief and sympathy
>> for dear Steve, Ellen, and Adam. I continue to pray for them.
>>
>> Cindy Bracker
>> Bracker's Good Earth Clays, Inc.
>> 888-822-1982
>> http://www.brackers.com
>>
>> _____________________________________________________________________=20=
>> _
>> ________
>> Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>>
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>>
>> Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
>> melpots@pclink.com.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> From: Pam Cresswell
> Date: September 29, 2005 9:38:53 AM PDT
> Subject: Re: A newbie is a dangerous thing
>
>
> I got my September issue of Ceramics Monthly and fell in love with the
> ***snip**
> Ketchup Red glaze in Jayne Shatz article "The Oxidation =20
> Reverberation".
>
>> Checking my supplies I had all of the ingredients except the =20
>> Spanish Red
>> Iron Oxide, but I searched the archives and found it compared to =20
>> regular
>>
> Red
>
>> Iron Oxide and several posts that said the difference did not =20
>> affect the
>> results. I went happily on my way, mixed a 2000 gram batch and =20
>> fired up
>>
> the
>
>> kiln. What I got can kindly be referred to as baby poop brown.
>>
>
> **snip***
>
>
> Yep me, too I did a test tile, and brushed it on a pot that also had
> several other glazes.
> It came out a mottled brown, not bad for a brown actually, but =20
> certainly not
> a thing like
> CM showed. BUT!!!! I refired the pot in my next firing, and it =20
> changed into
> a lovely ketchup-y
> Color with streaks of orange and purple. It still was not like the
> pictures, where it was **RED**, but a lovely and unusual color, =20
> definitely a
> keeper. It also ran just a bit in the second firing. Both times I =20
> fired
> pretty much the same, till cone 6 was bent all the way over, just =20
> barely
> touching the shelf with it's point, then a long slow cool down.
> Pam
>
>
>
> From: Wes Rolley
> Date: September 29, 2005 9:24:58 AM PDT
> Subject: What is in a name?
>
>
> I came accross this advertisement today...checked it out and it is =20
> exactly what
> they say.
>
>
>> The Clay Pot - Brooklyn
>> Specializing in handmade wedding bands and jewelry.
>>
>
> No wonder we have a problem with "brand recognition."
> --=20
> "I find I have a great lot to learn =96 or unlearn. I seem to know =20
> far too much
> and this knowledge obscures the really significant facts, but I am =20
> getting on."
> -- Charles Rennie Mackintosh
>
> Wesley C. Rolley
> 17211 Quail Court
> Morgan Hill, CA 95037
> (408)778-3024
> http://www.refpub.com/
>
>
>
> From: Arnold Howard
> Date: September 29, 2005 9:35:28 AM PDT
> Subject: Re: Off topic: ground squirrels
>
>
> From:
>
>> There are small, inexpensive devices which emit hi frequency =20
>> sounds that
>> repulse or insult the sensibilities of most small Mammals...these =20
>> tending
>> to
>> be above the hearing range of most people...
>>
>
> Many years ago I had a negative ionizer that made roaches go away. =20
> I was
> amazed at its effectiveness.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Arnold Howard
> Paragon Industries, L.P., Mesquite, Texas USA
> ahoward@paragonweb.com / www.paragonweb.com
>
>
>
> From: GEIL KILNS
> Date: September 29, 2005 1:55:25 PM PDT
> Subject: PRICE CORRECTION: Crystalline Firing Workshop with Kris =20
> Friedrich
>
>
> The Crystalline Firing Workshop with Kris Friedrich will cost $200.00.
> Please disregard the price of $225.00 on the first post. Thank you!
>
>
>
> From: Joan Conklin
> Date: September 28, 2005 5:57:33 PM PDT
> Subject: Difference between Spodumene?
>
>
> Hi Mud Buddies,
> I need to know when do you use low melt Spodumene. I am looking to =20
> mix up
> some of Richard Busche Nutmeg glaze and it calls for Spodumene. =20
> When do you
> use low melt Spodumene? and when do you use Spodumene?
> Thanks a million, Joan on the west coast of Canada
>
>
>
> From: Hank Murrow
> Date: September 28, 2005 5:23:49 PM PDT
> Subject: Re: Reduction Colors
>
>
> Dear Frank;
>
> You are getting reduction enough to turn the copper mauve......too =20
> much
> copper in this recipe for red. Try washing the mauve surface with weak
> acid to clean it. These glazes were originally fired in oxidation
> primarily, so you should too if you want oribe color.
>
> Cheers, Hank
> www.murrow.biz/hank
>
> On Sep 28, 2005, at 3:41 PM, JANFAM wrote:
>
>
>> Jeri attended a workshop and one of the glazes that was used was =20
>> called
>> Oribe, fired to ^10R.
>>
>> OM 4 14.25
>> Custer spar 30.54
>> Whiting 20.48
>> Silica 34.73
>> copper carb 8.01
>>
>> The pots she brought home were a shiny bluish green.
>>
>> The pots we are getting out are an awful mauve color.
>>
>> =46rom what I can glean from the books we have, copper is highly =20
>> volatile
>> and burns off at ^10. Where this glaze is overlapped by a Spodumene
>> glaze
>>
>> Custer 28.04
>> EPK 24.30
>> Dolomite 20.56
>> Spodumenr 18.69
>> Whiting 1.87
>> Bentonite .93
>> Tin Oxide 5.6
>>
>>
>> it is a nice maroon color.
>>
>> I think that this means the kiln is in reduction, but where is the
>> green
>> of Oribe?? Should'nt the copper produce red and not green in
>> reduction??
>>
>>
>>
>
> From: Marcia Selsor
> Date: September 28, 2005 5:23:39 PM PDT
> Subject: Re: Neophyte has questions on reduction firing
>
>
> And there is a distinct smell of reduction. Kind of gaggy smell. Look
> for green purpled flames.
> Marcia
> On Sep 28, 2005, at 3:42 PM, Frank J. wrote:
>
>
>> Thanks Marcia,
>>
>> Our kiln does not ever belch black smoke, I guess we don't have =20
>> enough
>> gas pressure for that. You comment about putting a stick into the
>> peep
>> and seeing if it burns is great since I can't really tell if we =20
>> are in
>> reduction or not. I think we are but many of the books say you can
>> have
>> black smoke coming out and still not be in reduction. Very confusing
>> but I think the fact that we are getting some red out of a glaze that
>> contains CaCo3 when overlapped with a Spodumene glaze means we are in
>> reduction? And that of course leads to a whole new topic about the
>> colors that are coming out of the kiln, which I am saving for my next
>> round of questions.
>>
>>
>>
>
> From: gjudson
> Date: September 28, 2005 5:35:32 PM PDT
> Subject: Re: Great experience
>
>
> Yes, Hank, Ian was disappointed that none of us had taken him up on =20=
> the
> suggestion to bring some "wild materials". He works with various =20
> stones as
> well as ash of various sorts. I am eager to try out some of our =20
> fireplace
> ash!
> Glad you added that note--it is a significant advantage to his method.
> Gay
>
> Hank Murrow wrote:
>
>>
>> And Ian's method works a treat if you wish to use wild materials =20
>> which
>> have no analysis. You can tame these beauties fast with the Grid
>> Method!
>>
>> Cheers, Hank
>>
>>> www.murrow.biz/hank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
> From: dannon rhudy
> Date: September 24, 2005 4:06:42 AM PDT
> Subject: Re: Reduction Colors
>
>
> I'm not absolutely sure that I understand all
> of your question(s). However, Oribe glazes
> are notorious for turning "an awful mauve
> color". Reasons? If your clay body is
> not really white, the clay shows through (brownish).
> Oribe is a nearly transparent glaze. When it
> turns pink/red in reduction, and the clay shows
> through, it is muddy and unattractive. This happens
> when the glaze is a bit thin and reduction is less
> than optimal. Oribe glazes in my experience turn
> red fairly easily. So - make sure it is thick enough
> (though some run, so watch the foot). Also, if there
> is too much carbon in the atmosphere, then oribe
> glazes, like other carbon traps, turn a liverish brownish
> pinkish disgusting sort of color. Oribe can be
> beautiful, especially when some turns red and some
> stays green - but watch application and reduction.
> AND your claybody.
>
> regards
>
> Dannon Rhudy p.s. copper is volatile, but does not
> necessarily "burn off" at high temps. Depends on the
> glaze, the application, etc.
>
>
> Subject: Reduction Colors
>
>
>
>> Jeri attended a workshop and one of the glazes that was used was =20
>> called
>> Oribe, fired to ^10R.
>>
>> OM 4 14.25
>> Custer spar 30.54
>> Whiting 20.48
>> Silica 34.73
>> copper carb 8.01
>>
>> The pots she brought home were a shiny bluish green.
>>
>> The pots we are getting out are an awful mauve color.
>>
>>
>>
>
> From: Jennifer Boyer
> Date: September 28, 2005 5:54:18 PM PDT
> Subject: Re: pottery wheels
>
>
> Hi All
> The Shimpo VL Whisper has a floor foot pedal. I have both of these
> wheels and like them both. But you haven't heard "quiet" til you've
> used a Whisper....love that.
> Also I use the extension legs on both wheels and the Shimpo leg
> clamping mechanism is better. My Pacifica leg clamps loosen over =20
> time.
> That's why I know I can throw on an unlevel wheel. NO problem....
>
> Jennifer
> On Sep 28, 2005, at 7:38 PM, Scott Paulding wrote:
>
>
>> personally, i have never liked shimpo wheels. they are too low for me
>> (i'm tall). but, in order to have the accelleration pedal low enough
>> to be remotely usable, i can't raise the wheel up at all (it's
>> attached to the side of the wheel, so it is as high off the ground as
>> the wheel is). i always seem to find myself hunched over the wheel,
>> with my knee in my face (or at least horribly off center physically).
>>
>> i have no complaints about the pacifica wheel. they are great, very,
>> very quiet, smooth working pedal, and easily reversable (so are
>> shimpo's though). pacifica is probably what i would buy if i were
>> going to buy an electric wheel.
>>
>> i hope this helps,
>>
>> -scott
>>
>> On 9/28/05, Sandy wrote:
>>
>>> Hi to all of you clay gurus,
>>>
>>>
>>> I am in the market for a pottery wheel. The top contenders, so far,
>>> are
>>> the Shimpo VL Whisper and the Pacifica GT400.
>>> ************************
>>>
> Jennifer Boyer
> Thistle Hill Pottery
> Montpelier, VT
>
> http://thistlehillpottery.com
>
>
>
> From: Heloisa Nunes
> Date: September 29, 2005 2:34:58 PM PDT
> Subject: Re: A newbie is a dangerous thing
>
>
> Hello you all,
> I am also new to firing, therefore a lot of things are not a given =20
> for me.
> Is it possible we ask these magazines that the articles come with =20
> firing
> ramps very specific as it was done by the author?
> I hope I can get the glazes right in my firing...
>
> Cheers,
> Heloisa
> Sao Paulo, Brazil
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ann Brink"
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 2:36 PM
> Subject: Re: A newbie is a dangerous thing
>
>
>
>> Hello David,
>>
>> Hey, don't feel alone. I am struggling with the same thing. The =20
>> recipe
>> you
>> refer to is the same as one I've used for several years under the =20
>> name of
>> "Touchtone Red". The last two batches are just not right. The =20
>> color I've
>> been getting is what I call "muck" (dairy farmers will recognize the
>> term".
>> Please look at my bits & pieces blog for a more detailed saga of this
>> glaze.
>> http://annsgoodies.blogspot.com
>>
>> After reading the article by Jayne Shatz, I have been thinking of =20
>> ordering
>> the Spanish Red oxide- surely that would be the solution, I thought.
>> Guess
>> you've saved me the trouble. I think the answer lies in the =20
>> holding and
>> cooldown methods. Next time I will try a longer hold at the top =20
>> temp (cone
>> 7), and repeat the slow cooldown. I do it with my switches. Maybe I
>> should
>> only go to cone 6.
>>
>> I could not believe the red on that goblet in the article! I =20
>> don't even
>> want that red. The one I used to get is what I want....like on "Red
>> Dancer"
>> on my blog.
>>
>> Ann Brink in Lompoc CA
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Sieja"
>>
>>
>> Hello all, I've been lurking for a while but finally thought I'd =20
>> jump in
>> and
>> ask a silly question. As the subject suggests I do realize that =20
>> Newbies
>> can
>> be very dangerous. Here is the mess I've created:
>>
>> I got my September issue of Ceramics Monthly and fell in love with =20=
>> the
>> Ketchup Red glaze in Jayne Shatz article "The Oxidation =20
>> Reverberation".
>> Checking my supplies I had all of the ingredients except the =20
>> Spanish Red
>> Iron Oxide, but I searched the archives and found it compared to =20
>> regular
>> Red
>> Iron Oxide and several posts that said the difference did not =20
>> affect the
>> results. I went happily on my way, mixed a 2000 gram batch and =20
>> fired up
>> the
>> kiln. What I got can kindly be referred to as baby poop brown.
>>
>> OK I thought, maybe the difference in Iron Oxides really is that =20
>> great, so
>> I
>> ordered Spanish Red from Laguna and happily went on my merry way =20
>> again.
>> Yep, you guessed it; there was very little difference in the results.
>> Baby
>> poop brown again.
>>
>> I fired the tests in two different kilns, one with a digital =20
>> controller
>> (to
>> cone 6) and one with a sitter, and in the sitter kiln I used a =20
>> cone 6 once
>> and a cone 7 another time.
>>
>> Has anyone had success with this glaze recipe? Any ideas, =20
>> suggestions or
>> advice will be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> David Sieja
>> Yaki Tam Pottery
>> yakitam.pottery@sbcglobal.net
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> From: dannon rhudy
> Date: September 24, 2005 3:03:34 PM PDT
> Subject: Re: A newbie is a dangerous thing
>
>
> The color I've
>
>> been getting is what I call "muck" (dairy farmers will recognize the
>>
> term".
>
>> Please look at my bits & pieces blog for a more detailed saga of this
>>
> glaze.
>
> Many of the iron red recipies are very similar. I've made
> them with Spanish RIO and whatever ones else are
> available and/or I have to hand.
>
> Results are pretty similar: very red glazes, really
> a beautiful vivid iron red color. Try adding
> about 4% bone ash to the recipe, as a TEST (small
> batch, eh?). Then: cool slowly. Don't open the
> kiln until you can take the work out with your bare hand.
>
> regards
>
> Dannon Rhudy
>
>
>
> From: Des & Jan Howard
> Date: September 29, 2005 2:45:51 PM PDT
> Subject: Re: A newbie is a dangerous thing
>
>
> David
> You mentioned an electric kiln with controller, try this as a refire
> cycle with the "red" pieces.
> Fire to 1020C
> Cool 4 hours to 920C
> Cool 4 hours to 720C
> Des
>
> David Sieja wrote:
>
>
>> I got my September issue of Ceramics Monthly and fell in love with =20=
>> the
>> Ketchup Red glaze in Jayne Shatz article =93The Oxidation =20
>> Reverberation=94.
>> Checking my supplies I had all of the ingredients except the =20
>> Spanish Red
>> Iron Oxide, but I searched the archives and found it compared to =20
>> regular Red
>> Iron Oxide and several posts that said the difference did not =20
>> affect the
>> results. I went happily on my way, mixed a 2000 gram batch and =20
>> fired up the
>> kiln. What I got can kindly be referred to as baby poop brown.
>>
>> OK I thought, maybe the difference in Iron Oxides really is that =20
>> great, so I
>> ordered Spanish Red from Laguna and happily went on my merry way =20
>> again.
>> Yep, you guessed it; there was very little difference in the =20
>> results. Baby
>> poop brown again.
>>
>> I fired the tests in two different kilns, one with a digital =20
>> controller (to
>> cone 6) and one with a sitter, and in the sitter kiln I used a =20
>> cone 6 once
>> and a cone 7 another time.
>>
>> Has anyone had success with this glaze recipe? Any ideas, =20
>> suggestions or
>> advice will be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Des & Jan Howard
> Lue Pottery
> LUE NSW 2850
> Australia
> Ph/Fax 02 6373 6419
> http://www.luepottery.hwy.com.au
>
>
>
> From: Wayne Seidl
> Date: September 29, 2005 2:47:44 PM PDT
> Subject: Mr. Cushing's address
>
>
> It's called "Google.com" folks.
>
> hint, hint
>
> For Further Information Contact
> Val M. Cushing / VC Pottery
> 1497 Water Wells Road
> Alfred Station, NY 14803
> Phone: 607-587-9193 Fax: 607-587-9036
> cushingve@infoblvd.net
>
>
>
> From: "Frank J."
> Date: September 29, 2005 3:09:24 PM PDT
> Subject: Reduction Colors II
>
>
> Thank you all who responded to my earlier post.
>
> Now for the next question:
>
> Mays Blue ^10R
>
> Feldspar 30
> Flint 26
> China Clay (calcined) 17
> Dolomite 16
> Whiting 11
> Rutile 8
>
> Supposed to be blue with kind of iridescent flecks.
>
> Not really knowing what type of feldspar to use, I made one batch =20
> using
> F-4 Feldspar and one batch using G-200, both acted about the same.
> Kind of thin at the top edge of bowls and color is very light whitish
> grey moving down the bowl becomes darker grey then as it starts to
> thicken hints of brown with the blue finally showing up at the foot
> where it is thickest. It also shows up slightly in the incised areas
> of the bowl where it can puddle a little. Halfway between glossy and
> matte finish.
>
> Actually a nice glaze once you get over your expectations, but =20
> remember
> I am the Pyro not the Potter, and she has her own ideas about what she
> wants.
>
> So where does all this grey come from and where has the blue gone?
>
> Is China clay anything more than EPK?
>
> The only China clay available was calcined-could this have had an =20
> effect
> on the color?
>
> Thanks in advance for your replies.
>
> Frank
>
>
>
> From: Charles Moore
> Date: September 29, 2005 3:46:10 PM PDT
> Subject: Re: Val Cushing's Address
>
>
> Thanks you, Marta. I want to send a copy of the Clay Lovers =20
> Calendar for
> 2006 to Val. He wrote a beautiful comment on Jared that Lisa Skeen =20=
> has
> incorporated into the tribute to Jared in the centerfold of the =20
> calendar
> that she publishes.
>
> Charles
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marta Matray Gloviczki"
> To: "Charles Moore"
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 12:27 PM
> Subject: Re: Val Cushing's Address
>
>
>
>> hi charles,
>> here it is:
>> Val Cushing
>>
>>
>>
>
> From: Hank Murrow
> Date: September 29, 2005 4:07:50 PM PDT
> Subject: Re: Difference between Spodumene?
>
>
> On Sep 28, 2005, at 5:57 PM, Joan Conklin wrote:
>
>
>> Hi Mud Buddies,
>> I need to know when do you use low melt Spodumene. I am looking to =20=
>> mix
>> up
>> some of Richard Busche Nutmeg glaze and it calls for Spodumene. When
>> do you
>> use low melt Spodumene? and when do you use Spodumene?
>> Thanks a million, Joan on the west coast of Canada
>>
>
> Dear Joan;
>
> Low Melt Spodumene is based on an Amblygonite ore, so if you add Low
> Melt to a recipe you are adding in some Phosphorus. The regular
> Spodumene has little to no Phosphorus.
>
> Phosphorus is a glass former, analogous with silica but not the same.
>
> I find that the Phosphorus in Low Melt promotes the shino iron red
> color we have come to know and love.
>
> Cheers, Hank in Eugene OR
>
> www.murrow.biz/hank
>
>
>
> From: John Hesselberth
> Date: September 29, 2005 4:05:20 PM PDT
> Subject: Re: A newbie is a dangerous thing
>
>
> Hi David,
>
> Iron reds can be difficult. They are particularly sensitive to cooling
> rate. A hold at about 1600 F for a couple hours on the way down can
> bring out the color. Another technique some use is to refire them in a
> bisque firing. Try that with a couple pieces you are unhappy with and
> see if it helps.
>
> Regards,
>
> John
> On Sep 28, 2005, at 11:22 PM, David Sieja wrote:
>
>
>> Has anyone had success with this glaze recipe? Any ideas, =20
>> suggestions
>> or
>> advice will be greatly appreciated.
>>
> John Hesselberth
> http://www.frogpondpottery.com
> http://www.masteringglazes.com
>
>
>
> From: clennell
> Date: September 29, 2005 6:32:11 PM PDT
> Subject: A dog's breakfast
>
>
> the first week at Sheridan i had them all make 20 2lb bowls for =20
> homework for
> me to see the next day. Nice to see 340 bowls laid out on the tables.
> garbage pails were ready for their lesson on how to make an ugly =20
> pot go for
> a swim. next week 17 students make 20 4lb bowls laid on the tables. =20=
> We then
> had almost 680 bowls to glaze. We had a lesson on the studio high =20
> fire
> glazes and a lesson on firing a gas fired kiln. I watched them =20
> glaze like
> all beginners do. this glaze over that one, dribbles and splashes =20
> and they
> look like a dog's breakfast. perfect setting for my arrival the =20
> next week to
> see the fired results and my lecture on GIGO- garbage in, garbage =20
> out. I've
> never seen a kiln make something ugly look fabulous. i've seen a =20
> kiln make a
> good pot, excellent but never from ugly to fabulous. Usually when =20
> they go in
> looking good they come out looking just as good if not better. One =20
> student
> had the nerve to say I'll refire this ugly one in the salt kiln. I =20
> attacked
> the pot with a hammmer. This is done in an animated way and the =20
> class pisses
> themselves with laughter. this Monday i will walk in the room to 10 =20=
> 8lb
> porcelain bowls per student-170 bowls for crit. Some will be swimmers.
> hopefully not many. this group is a very good group of throwers. =20
> Energy is
> contagious. this young Korean guy keeps uping the bar. he =20
> constantly smiles
> and it is not macho or being a show off, it is ENERGY and it spreads
> throughout the room.
> I've got them throwing well. I told them they must master 3 areas -=20
> clay,
> glaze, fire while at school. Pick your weak area and work extra =20
> hard on that
> one. My job is to get them good with clay- glaze comes in the next =20
> quarter.
> I'll be home by then working for Santa Claus.
> cheers,
> Tony
> Tony and Sheila Clennell
> Sour Cherry Pottery
> 4545 King Street
> Beamsville, Ontario
> CANADA L0R 1B1
> http://www.sourcherrypottery.com
> http://www.sourcherrypottery.com/current_news/news_letter.html
>
>
>
> From: David Woof
> Date: September 29, 2005 6:54:53 PM PDT
> Subject: Re: washed/ unwashed wood ash
>
>
> Thanks to all for the responses, sharing of techniques and chemistry,
> information and reference. I had noticed folks asking questions =20
> about wood
> ash recipies, but often the "which ash is best" type questions, and =20=
> thought
> it would be good to seek shareing knowledge about wood ash as a =20
> reactive
> ingrediant. As a long time, but in late years, not so an in-depth
> formulator and experimental user of ash I was sure that I could learn
> something new as well. I did. I believe one appreciates effect in
> proportion to knowledge of the cause. Or at least it is another =20
> important
> facet, another layer of satisfaction in the process of producing =20
> our very
> best.
>
>
> peering over the edge, reverently taking an irreverent look at =20
> everything.
>
>
>
> From: bill edwards
> Date: September 29, 2005 7:07:32 PM PDT
> Subject: Smart. Counseil
>
>
> It is good that you provided the analytical graph. The
> eutectic conditions where change occurs under
> additions of custer spar is highly interesting.
>
> Subject: Eutectic temperature of Custer Spar according
> to additions of
> raw materials
>
> Hello all,
>
> The French Connection rides again and as Casey Stengel
> once said:
> "It ain't over til it is over"
>
> More to come!!!
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/47728798/
>
> Bill Edwards
> Edmar Studio and Gallery
> 302 South Main St (Shipping)
> POB 367 (Mailing)
> Camp Hill, Al. 36850
> http://apottersmark.blogspot.com/
>
> "Those that matter don't mind, and those that mind don't matter"
>
>
>
> __________________________________
> Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005
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>
>
>
> From: Marta Matray Gloviczki
> Date: September 29, 2005 7:04:48 PM PDT
> Subject: Re: A dog's breakfast
>
>
> its too bad that you are not my teacher, tony!
> i would make you many many swimmers...
> i dont know how to throw, never learned it,
> so, i decided that i wanna learn it now.
> i signed up for pottery class at the community college
> here in town, and i have 2 classes per week, plus
> i stop there for an hour or two every day to practice it.
> its fricking hard! nobody ever told me that!
> i still cannot really center the clay, but its
> still the first month, right? i am getting a little
> better tho... the swimmers are still very heavy, but
> at least some are good looking!
> maybe i just have to save them for saltfiring???
> he-he.
> btw: did you ever go to geneseo,ny to see the cup show
> we are in?
>
> cheers,marta
>
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> marta matray gloviczki
> rochester,mn
>
> http://www.angelfire.com/mn2/marta/
> http://users.skynet.be/russel.fouts/Marta.htm
> http://www.silverhawk.com/crafts/gloviczki/welcome.html
>
>
>
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