Shula on sun 2 oct 05
With the winter rains on the horizon, it is time for me to bring my wheel (brent electric) into the apartment. I plan to put the wheel in the kitchen in the space that I had left for a portable dishwasher I planned to buy (but decided having a wheel in the apartment is more important than having a dishwasher). The flooring in the kitchen while new, appears to be fairly fragile. It is linoleum (or something like that). I think I should put something down under the wheel so that I don't wreck up the floor. I'm afraid that the 3 legs would dig into the flooring and I would have to pay for replacement when I move out. I've thought of getting a piece of 3/4" plywood and perhaps covering it with plastic for easier cleaning. Would thinner plywood work? Any other suggestions?
Thanks
Shula
in Redondo Beach, CA
far from the fires burning outside of LA
however, when I went to work Thursday night, we could smell the smoke inside the hospital (which is north of where I live and closer, but not that close, to the fires). Didn't smell smoke in the hospital Friday night. Not sure whether it wasn't there or I was used to the smell.
claybair on mon 3 oct 05
Lois,
I approached the flooring guy who got all my business
when we built out house. I told him I wanted some cheap
vinyl flooring to put on my garage studio cement floor.
He took me to the back storage area where he had
rolls and rolls of returned, misfit, designs that didn't sell well.
He said they like to donate to charities so they do not have to
inventory it. He gave me a nice big piece and I laid it on top of the cement
& duct taped the edges. I've had it in place for 5 years now only changing
the duct tape in an high traffic area.
It's great. It's easy to mop/clean is easy on my feet and has saved several
pieces
though alas it was not cushioned enough to save my recent "to the moon
Alice" mug!;-)
However I don't think it would be cushion enough for Shula's wheel.
I think she needs something more protective.
Gayle Bair
Bainbridge Island, WA
Tucson, AZ
http://claybair.com
-----Original Message-----
From:Lois Ruben Aronow
I would think the softness of the mat would leave the wheel somewhat
unstable, not to mention unleveled.
Funny thing - I'm out shopping for a nice piece of linoleum to put under my
wheel in my new studio. So much easier to clean than wood.
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Steve Slatin on mon 3 oct 05
I tried putting those tiles in my studio, and am not
happy with the results -- where I have had substantial
weight on the tiles (under the wheel, under the
wedging table) I have gotten compression and the tiles
have expanded in size (being stretched). This makes
them buckle at the joints, creating a tripping hazard
and so on, leading to the need to move everything out
of the studio so that they can be taken up and
relocated only to have the process start all over
again.
Please note this will probably not be such a problem
if you avoid butting the tiles against anything, so
there's room for them to compress/stretch. Still, for
under a wheel I'd avoid them and get a sturdier base
to begin with. Home Depot sells some rectangular mats
with holes in them that're much harder than the tiles
-- I put one under my wedging table about 4 mos. back
and it appears to be holding up well, it cost about
$20 IIRC and is 3 x 5 or so.
The interlocking solid tiles are great aroung my
glazing space -- I didn't put them under the table,
and they make working for extended periods much more
comfortable, and if I slop some glaze on them at the
end of the day I can pull them up, put them outside
and hose them down.
-- Steve Slatin
--- Jeanette Harris wrote:
> Looks like these interlocking foam rubber tiles are
> manageable as far
> as set-up and you can keep them clean by popping out
> a section and
> washing it. http://www.softtiles.com/
>
> After a second look at this, they offer a bargain
> package of
> children's flooring with seconds in 'sign' tiles for
> $12.00.
Steve Slatin --
Drove downtown in the rain
9:30 on a Tuesday night
Just to check out the
Late night record shop
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Ann Brink on mon 3 oct 05
Hi Shula, how about putting a small plate or dish under each leg?
Ann Brink in Lompoc CA
> With the winter rains on the horizon, it is time for me to bring my wheel
(brent electric) into the apartment. I plan to put the wheel in the kitchen
in the space that I had left for a portable dishwasher I planned to buy (but
decided having a wheel in the apartment is more important than having a
dishwasher). The flooring in the kitchen while new, appears to be fairly
fragile. It is linoleum (or something like that). I think I should put
something down under the wheel so that I don't wreck up the floor. I'm
afraid that the 3 legs would dig into the flooring and I would have to pay
for replacement when I move out. I've thought of
Kathy Forer on mon 3 oct 05
An mat used to protect a floor from athletic equipment might help.
Search for "athletic equipment mat" or take a shortcut through Yahoo
shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com/b:Equipment%20Mats:21272675
Kathy Forer
www.foreverink.com
Shula on mon 3 oct 05
Hi Ann,
Interesting idea. I'll take that under consideration. I have to think about the stool or chair I sit on as well. But, I do like your idea. Much less bulky.
Thanks
Shula
in sunny Redondo Beach, CA
-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Brink
Sent: Oct 3, 2005 8:20 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: What should I put under my wheel to protect the floor?
Hi Shula, how about putting a small plate or dish under each leg?
Ann Brink in Lompoc CA
> With the winter rains on the horizon, it is time for me to bring my wheel
(brent electric) into the apartment. I plan to put the wheel in the kitchen
in the space that I had left for a portable dishwasher I planned to buy (but
decided having a wheel in the apartment is more important than having a
dishwasher). The flooring in the kitchen while new, appears to be fairly
fragile. It is linoleum (or something like that). I think I should put
something down under the wheel so that I don't wreck up the floor. I'm
afraid that the 3 legs would dig into the flooring and I would have to pay
for replacement when I move out. I've thought of
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Lois Ruben Aronow on mon 3 oct 05
I would think the softness of the mat would leave the wheel somewhat
unstable, not to mention unleveled.
Funny thing - I'm out shopping for a nice piece of linoleum to put under my
wheel in my new studio. So much easier to clean than wood.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of
> Kathy Forer
> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 12:20 PM
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: Re: What should I put under my wheel to protect the floor?
>
> An mat used to protect a floor from athletic equipment might help.
> Search for "athletic equipment mat" or take a shortcut through Yahoo
> shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com/b:Equipment%20Mats:21272675
>
> Kathy Forer
> www.foreverink.com
>
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Jeanette Harris on mon 3 oct 05
Looks like these interlocking foam rubber tiles are manageable as far
as set-up and you can keep them clean by popping out a section and
washing it. http://www.softtiles.com/
After a second look at this, they offer a bargain package of
children's flooring with seconds in 'sign' tiles for $12.00. (If you
can stand to look at it under you all the time. Or maybe you can turn
them over.)
--
Jeanette Harris
Poulsbo WA
Potter's Council member
Jeanette Harris on mon 3 oct 05
>An mat used to protect a floor from athletic equipment might help.
>Search for "athletic equipment mat" or take a shortcut through Yahoo
>shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com/b:Equipment%20Mats:21272675
>
>Kathy Forer
>www.foreverink.com
Take a look at this site.
Looks like these interlocking foam rubber tiles are manageable as far
as set-up and you can keep them clean by popping out a section and
washing it. http://www.softtiles.com/
They might also be a very good system to take to shows.
--
Jeanette Harris
Poulsbo WA
Potter's Council member
Bonnie Staffel on tue 4 oct 05
Have you explored the plastic mats that are used in offices under the
secretary's chair. They seem spacious enough for both wheel and stool,
IMO. In fact I need one for my computer desk. The rollers on my chair
on carpeting is the pits.
Regards,
Bonnie Staffel
http://webpages.charter.net/bstaffel/
Kathy Forer on tue 4 oct 05
On Oct 3, 2005, at 4:41 PM, Lois Ruben Aronow wrote:
> I would think the softness of the mat would leave the wheel somewhat
> unstable, not to mention unleveled.
Lois,
The kind of mat used under treadmills and stationery bicycles is of a
hard composition, though it's flexible enough to be rolled for
shipping. It's nothing like a yoga or gym mat, not spongy, very
resilient, more like an anti-fatigue mat, something like to a car mat.
Its purpose is to help level large home equipment.
A spare piece of linoleum would work as well, but might tear up at the
edges.
There's also a floor underlayment that can go over hard concrete and
provides a resilient surface but that would be overkill.
I haven't tried or seen an athletic equipment mat under a wheel, though
an entire floor made of interlocking mats seems a natural. Perhaps a
simpler anti-fatigue mat would be better www.buymats.com or maybe a wet
application mat, like something in a commercial kitchen, something with
perforations, to keep the clay water in one non-slippery place
industrial-mat-application-guide.htm> could be useful. The softtiles
look nice and colorful! Small rubber cups on a thin catchall for flying
mud & water seems a sweet solution too.
Kathy
Linda Mosley on tue 4 oct 05
Hi Shula,
First, I hesitate to give advise on how to make pots
in your kitchen since I don't think it's healthy to
live with the inevitable airborne clay dust. I trust
that this is a temporary solution and that you are
frequently and thoroughly wet-cleaning.
I have used squares of 1/8"-1/4" tempered Masonite
under my wheel legs, but you could cut a shape to fit
under the whole area of your wheel and stool. Thin
luan plywood would probably work too. It could be
sealed or painted for easier cleanup.
Another thing that might work is a stiff plastic mat
made to protect carpet and allow office chairs to roll
smoothly, sold at office supply stores. Maybe a mat
for under a car in the garage might work.
Best wishes for healthy and happy potting.
Linda Mosley
Linda Mosley
Studio Potter & Teacher
lmpots@yahoo.com
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Misty Mangham on tue 4 oct 05
Hello Steve, my aunt use to work with pottery along time ago, never cared all that much for clay, but I do like some of what has been created. I digress... you could go and find 2 or three of those industrious rubber runners that they have in alot of your factories that should help you out they are heavy enough and sturdy enough where they wont be a tripping hazard or what have you. Just give it a go. I admitt that they aren't all that attractive, but so what when you will have clay splatter on the floor.
Steve Slatin wrote:I tried putting those tiles in my studio, and am not
happy with the results -- where I have had substantial
weight on the tiles (under the wheel, under the
wedging table) I have gotten compression and the tiles
have expanded in size (being stretched). This makes
them buckle at the joints, creating a tripping hazard
and so on, leading to the need to move everything out
of the studio so that they can be taken up and
relocated only to have the process start all over
again.
Please note this will probably not be such a problem
if you avoid butting the tiles against anything, so
there's room for them to compress/stretch. Still, for
under a wheel I'd avoid them and get a sturdier base
to begin with. Home Depot sells some rectangular mats
with holes in them that're much harder than the tiles
-- I put one under my wedging table about 4 mos. back
and it appears to be holding up well, it cost about
$20 IIRC and is 3 x 5 or so.
The interlocking solid tiles are great aroung my
glazing space -- I didn't put them under the table,
and they make working for extended periods much more
comfortable, and if I slop some glaze on them at the
end of the day I can pull them up, put them outside
and hose them down.
-- Steve Slatin
--- Jeanette Harris wrote:
> Looks like these interlocking foam rubber tiles are
> manageable as far
> as set-up and you can keep them clean by popping out
> a section and
> washing it. http://www.softtiles.com/
>
> After a second look at this, they offer a bargain
> package of
> children's flooring with seconds in 'sign' tiles for
> $12.00.
Steve Slatin --
Drove downtown in the rain
9:30 on a Tuesday night
Just to check out the
Late night record shop
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Misty Mangham on tue 4 oct 05
Hey Yall, as my aunt would say clayart is to be used in the kitchen not made in the kitchen.
Linda Mosley wrote:Hi Shula,
First, I hesitate to give advise on how to make pots
in your kitchen since I don't think it's healthy to
live with the inevitable airborne clay dust. I trust
that this is a temporary solution and that you are
frequently and thoroughly wet-cleaning.
I have used squares of 1/8"-1/4" tempered Masonite
under my wheel legs, but you could cut a shape to fit
under the whole area of your wheel and stool. Thin
luan plywood would probably work too. It could be
sealed or painted for easier cleanup.
Another thing that might work is a stiff plastic mat
made to protect carpet and allow office chairs to roll
smoothly, sold at office supply stores. Maybe a mat
for under a car in the garage might work.
Best wishes for healthy and happy potting.
Linda Mosley
Linda Mosley
Studio Potter & Teacher
lmpots@yahoo.com
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Shula on sun 16 oct 05
Dear Linda,
Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you and thank you for your concern and suggestions.
Of course you are correct that having the wheel in the kitchen is not the best alternative, but unfortunately, during the winter rains, it will be my only alternative. The rest of the year, the wheel will be in my back "yard" area until I can afford to buy a house.
Shula
in sunny Redondo Beach, CA
-----Original Message-----
From: Linda Mosley
Sent: Oct 4, 2005 7:23 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: What should I put under my wheel to protect the floor?
Hi Shula,
First, I hesitate to give advise on how to make pots
in your kitchen since I don't think it's healthy to
live with the inevitable airborne clay dust. I trust
that this is a temporary solution and that you are
frequently and thoroughly wet-cleaning.
I have used squares of 1/8"-1/4" tempered Masonite
under my wheel legs, but you could cut a shape to fit
under the whole area of your wheel and stool. Thin
luan plywood would probably work too. It could be
sealed or painted for easier cleanup.
Another thing that might work is a stiff plastic mat
made to protect carpet and allow office chairs to roll
smoothly, sold at office supply stores. Maybe a mat
for under a car in the garage might work.
Best wishes for healthy and happy potting.
Linda Mosley
Linda Mosley
Studio Potter & Teacher
lmpots@yahoo.com
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