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Joan Klotz on thu 3 nov 05


Hi Janna,

It is very generous of you to give your kiln to Leland. Reading his
last posting made me quite teary he is making such a valiant effort
to get things back together. In a much smaller way I'd like to help
a little so when you devise a plan to get the kiln to him I'd would
be happy to throw in $200 to help with moving expenses, just let me
know who to send the check to - you, Leland, local moving company,
UPS? Maybe a few other Clayarters would be willing to help a little,
particularly if someone could give them a rough idea of what it would
cost. Even if Leland comes to pick up the kiln himself he is going
to have to sleep and eat somewhere along the way in addition to
buying gas. Somedays I watch the world news and it all seems so
hopeless and then there is someone like you just being a good person
and it provides a little hope. Jeez, I'm getting totally sappy.

Joan Klotz

At 02:48 PM 11/3/2005, you wrote:
>I have a Skutt 1227 kiln (unused)(well, I fired it twice) for Leland it's
>9 cu ft electric( you knew that). He could be firing and bringing in an
>income in no time.
>Well, the only problem I have is getting it to him. ...

Janna Marcilla on thu 3 nov 05


I have a Skutt 1227 kiln (unused)(well, I fired it twice) for Leland it's
9 cu ft electric( you knew that). He could be firing and bringing in an
income in no time.
Well, the only problem I have is getting it to him. We have talked back
and forth and have come up with two solutions. We could all get together
and form a human (truck) chain across the Southwest and Oregon to move the
truck closer to him and he could drive down to California and pick it up
near the Oregon border. My other idea is to pass the hat to provide gas
for the round trip between here (Albuquerque, New Mexico) and Oregan and
Leland could just drive down here himself and pick up the kiln. Don't
know how much that would cost, not a math wiz, maybe someone else out
there is? Any ideas how much that would cost? Well, anyway, I'm open to
suggestions from the group. Any other better ideas? Is there anyone who
could drive from Albuquerque to Oregon? My truck is as old as me or else
I would do it myself.

Sincerely, Janna Marcilla
Oh, it is now 4pm and I have to leave work in an hour. I don't have a
computer at home. I will be back on line tomorrow at 8am MST.

Janna Marcilla on thu 3 nov 05


What about NCECCA? Is that how you spell it? I've never been, but isn't
there a meeting in Portland Oregon this year sometime soon? Could maybe
someone going to the meeting take the Kiln with them to Leland?

Just a thought.

Janna Marcilla

marianne kuiper milks on thu 3 nov 05


Hi Janna,
A contribution toward gas and truck wear seems very
reasonable to me. If you need to know how much it
would cost, call Triple A (AAA). They are pretty
accurate figuring that out.
Another, easier way, may be for you to call a local,
privately owned trucking company and ask if they go
that direction/to that region. They may take it for
the same amount it costs you to pay for gas, overnight
cost and all that. Even if they go most of the way and
Leland could pick it up from there. You can ask big
companies as well, buit "chains" have more rules and
less leeway.

Let me know!

Marianne - travelartnmusic@yahoo.com

--- Janna Marcilla wrote:

> I have a Skutt 1227 kiln (unused)(well, I fired it
> twice) for Leland it's
> 9 cu ft electric( you knew that). He could be firing
> and bringing in an
> income in no time.
> Well, the only problem I have is getting it to him.
> We have talked back
> and forth and have come up with two solutions. We
> could all get together
> and form a human (truck) chain across the Southwest
> and Oregon to move the
> truck closer to him and he could drive down to
> California and pick it up
> near the Oregon border. My other idea is to pass
> the hat to provide gas
> for the round trip between here (Albuquerque, New
> Mexico) and Oregan and
> Leland could just drive down here himself and pick
> up the kiln. Don't
> know how much that would cost, not a math wiz, maybe
> someone else out
> there is? Any ideas how much that would cost?
> Well, anyway, I'm open to
> suggestions from the group. Any other better ideas?
> Is there anyone who
> could drive from Albuquerque to Oregon? My truck is
> as old as me or else
> I would do it myself.
>
> Sincerely, Janna Marcilla
> Oh, it is now 4pm and I have to leave work in an
> hour. I don't have a
> computer at home. I will be back on line tomorrow
> at 8am MST.
>
>
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Elizabeth Priddy on thu 3 nov 05


For the current cost of gas, you would probably be better
off sending it UPS. At the UPS store, they will even pack it
for you.

EP

--- Janna Marcilla wrote:

> I have a Skutt 1227 kiln (unused)(well, I fired it twice) for Leland
> it's
> 9 cu ft electric( you knew that). He could be firing and bringing in
> an
> income in no time.



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Leland Hall on fri 4 nov 05


Obviously there have been amazing developments. Both Judy and I are nearly
in stunned disbelief. Deeply humbled. Practicaly speechless.

Maybe we need potters in the White house? Anybody? It's just three years
away ya know?

Anyway, back when I started packing Bill Kennedey's pit fired pots for UPS,
(this was '83 or so) UPS's size limitations were such that we had to be
careful and skimp on packing materials so as to not wind up with a box that
was too large or they would refuse it. Apparently things have changed if
UPS now accepts things as large as a Skutt 1227. This sounds like a viable
option, Thanks Elizabeth. UPS would not have occured to me.

Don't get me started on the price of gas. Besides I'm not really sure I'm
up to task of driving to NM and back. But I would do it. Bet I could.

OK, so now I'm wondering, this UPS store, I,m unfamiliar. Ya think there
up to the task? I wonder if it would get here in one piece? Well, I think
a 1227, breaks down into three pieces, which would ship seperatly I
suppose, but I mean unbroken, as in not ruined? I assume insurance would
be wise. I've moved at least several kilns around Central Oregon, and it
seems they don't like it too much. Have to be careful. Would Janna have
to take it into a UPS Store, or might they come and take care of it on
site? Just thinking out loud.

It has also occured to Janna and I that NCECA is coming soon, is that
right? In Portland I hear. Just a thought.

Peace
Leland
La Pine, OR

On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 16:59:42 -0800, Elizabeth Priddy
wrote:

>For the current cost of gas, you would probably be better
>off sending it UPS. At the UPS store, they will even pack it
>for you.
>
>EP
>
>--- Janna Marcilla wrote:
>
>> I have a Skutt 1227 kiln (unused)(well, I fired it twice) for Leland
>> it's
>> 9 cu ft electric( you knew that). He could be firing and bringing in
>> an
>> income in no time

marianne kuiper milks on fri 4 nov 05


If Leland can indeed wait until Portland (a very long
wait...is that practical???) and MAKE lots of stuff in
the mean time, I could offer to fly to New Mexico
before NCECA, rent whatever vehicle is needed, make
packing crates and put the broken-down kiln in a safe
bed. (cross my fingers, but I've never even broken a
dried piece of greenware on long trips, or fragile
glass from Europe)

With the $ help of some Clayart members, we could rent
and pay for gas. If Leland broke his neck, we can
break our back. A little. We (Janna, myself and
someone else?) would drive one-way to Oregon and each
fly home from there.

Just a thought. One way or another I will help. Tell
me what is needed most.

Marianne

--- Leland Hall wrote:

> Obviously there have been amazing developments.
> Both Judy and I are nearly
> in stunned disbelief. Deeply humbled. Practicaly
> speechless.
>
> Maybe we need potters in the White house? Anybody?
> It's just three years
> away ya know?
>
> Anyway, back when I started packing Bill Kennedey's
> pit fired pots for UPS,
> (this was '83 or so) UPS's size limitations were
> such that we had to be
> careful and skimp on packing materials so as to not
> wind up with a box that
> was too large or they would refuse it. Apparently
> things have changed if
> UPS now accepts things as large as a Skutt 1227.
> This sounds like a viable
> option, Thanks Elizabeth. UPS would not have
> occured to me.
>
> Don't get me started on the price of gas. Besides
> I'm not really sure I'm
> up to task of driving to NM and back. But I would
> do it. Bet I could.
>
> OK, so now I'm wondering, this UPS store, I,m
> unfamiliar. Ya think there
> up to the task? I wonder if it would get here in
> one piece? Well, I think
> a 1227, breaks down into three pieces, which would
> ship seperatly I
> suppose, but I mean unbroken, as in not ruined? I
> assume insurance would
> be wise. I've moved at least several kilns around
> Central Oregon, and it
> seems they don't like it too much. Have to be
> careful. Would Janna have
> to take it into a UPS Store, or might they come and
> take care of it on
> site? Just thinking out loud.
>
> It has also occured to Janna and I that NCECA is
> coming soon, is that
> right? In Portland I hear. Just a thought.
>
> Peace
> Leland
> La Pine, OR
>
> On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 16:59:42 -0800, Elizabeth Priddy
>
> wrote:
>
> >For the current cost of gas, you would probably be
> better
> >off sending it UPS. At the UPS store, they will
> even pack it
> >for you.
> >
> >EP
> >
> >--- Janna Marcilla wrote:
> >
> >> I have a Skutt 1227 kiln (unused)(well, I fired
> it twice) for Leland
> >> it's
> >> 9 cu ft electric( you knew that). He could be
> firing and bringing in
> >> an
> >> income in no time
>
>
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Elizabeth Priddy on fri 4 nov 05


My husband got a HUGE piano parcel post. It was HEAVY
and it works fine. Blame eBay for the change. I am shocked
at what you can buy and mail these days.

I would break it into three if necessary and let somebody else carry
the cost, but private shipping co sounds better. One piece is better.

EP


Apparently things have
> changed if
> UPS now accepts things as large as a Skutt 1227. This sounds like a
> viable
> option, Thanks Elizabeth. UPS would not have occured to me.

Elizabeth Priddy

Beaufort, NC - USA
http://www.elizabethpriddy.com

I, like most people, don't go around
intending to step on toes and make folks cry.
Take it with a grain of salt.




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Arnold Howard on fri 4 nov 05


From: "Leland Hall"
> Don't get me started on the price of gas. Besides I'm not really sure I'm
> up to task of driving to NM and back. But I would do it. Bet I could.
>
> OK, so now I'm wondering, this UPS store, I,m unfamiliar. Ya think there
> up to the task?

Maybe someone nearby has the original packing materials for the Skutt kiln
and knows how to repack it. Otherwise, strap the kiln down securely inside a
wooden crate. I suggest shipping it by trucking line so that Leland can
begin using it right away.

Sincerely,

Arnold Howard
Paragon Industries, L.P., Mesquite, Texas USA
ahoward@paragonweb.com / www.paragonweb.com

pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on fri 4 nov 05


Hi All,


Marianne, the problem with a one-way truck rental ( usually ) is that it is
very expensive just-to-rent-the-truck itself, plus miliage charges, plus
gas, plus food, lodgeings and time.

Generally, anymore, so is "U.P.S." ridiculously expensive compared to Fed-ex
or DHL just for routine little or medium weight things, so I doubt they
would be more reasponable on something truely 'heavy'.

One could ship something like this 'Common Carrier' ( with all due careful
looking for the best rates and avoiding some companies known to make
problems) for a fifth of a one-way truck (just the truck itself and nothing
else ) rental cost for this distance.

I just did a fast 'google' under 'Freight Forwarding' and see many listings.

Too, private haulers, if one can be found, who haul usually non-commercial
freight or haul private or 'collector' Cars ( ie 'Car Haulers') will often
do a deed for something 'small' like this, for quite a bit less than Common
Carrier.

The 'UPS-Store' would likely end up being three times what Common Carrier
charges would be since these 'stored' at least double their costs TO ship as
well as add other fees.

I am awaiting a reply from the fellow offering the Kiln, as for it's weight
and outer dimensions and whether he can strap it with some padding or
cushion, to a palette.

Knowing these details will help.


Once we-all have an assay of the various options and their costs and merits
for this item's actual weight and size, then the best means will be easy to
elect, and we can co-operate somehow to get it done.

The 'Portland' nceeka seems like just too, too long a wait to me...

Till next...

Phil
Las Vegas

Who got up way WAY too early today after getting to bed way WAY too late.

Lol...




----- Original Message -----
From: "marianne kuiper milks"


> If Leland can indeed wait until Portland (a very long
> wait...is that practical???) and MAKE lots of stuff in
> the mean time, I could offer to fly to New Mexico
> before NCECA, rent whatever vehicle is needed, make
> packing crates and put the broken-down kiln in a safe
> bed. (cross my fingers, but I've never even broken a
> dried piece of greenware on long trips, or fragile
> glass from Europe)
>
> With the $ help of some Clayart members, we could rent
> and pay for gas. If Leland broke his neck, we can
> break our back. A little. We (Janna, myself and
> someone else?) would drive one-way to Oregon and each
> fly home from there.
>
> Just a thought. One way or another I will help. Tell
> me what is needed most.
>
> Marianne
>
> --- Leland Hall wrote:
>
> > Obviously there have been amazing developments.
> > Both Judy and I are nearly
> > in stunned disbelief. Deeply humbled. Practicaly
> > speechless.
> >
> > Maybe we need potters in the White house? Anybody?
> > It's just three years
> > away ya know?
> >
> > Anyway, back when I started packing Bill Kennedey's
> > pit fired pots for UPS,
> > (this was '83 or so) UPS's size limitations were
> > such that we had to be
> > careful and skimp on packing materials so as to not
> > wind up with a box that
> > was too large or they would refuse it. Apparently
> > things have changed if
> > UPS now accepts things as large as a Skutt 1227.
> > This sounds like a viable
> > option, Thanks Elizabeth. UPS would not have
> > occured to me.
> >
> > Don't get me started on the price of gas. Besides
> > I'm not really sure I'm
> > up to task of driving to NM and back. But I would
> > do it. Bet I could.
> >
> > OK, so now I'm wondering, this UPS store, I,m
> > unfamiliar. Ya think there
> > up to the task? I wonder if it would get here in
> > one piece? Well, I think
> > a 1227, breaks down into three pieces, which would
> > ship seperatly I
> > suppose, but I mean unbroken, as in not ruined? I
> > assume insurance would
> > be wise. I've moved at least several kilns around
> > Central Oregon, and it
> > seems they don't like it too much. Have to be
> > careful. Would Janna have
> > to take it into a UPS Store, or might they come and
> > take care of it on
> > site? Just thinking out loud.
> >
> > It has also occured to Janna and I that NCECA is
> > coming soon, is that
> > right? In Portland I hear. Just a thought.
> >
> > Peace
> > Leland
> > La Pine, OR
> >
> > On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 16:59:42 -0800, Elizabeth Priddy
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >For the current cost of gas, you would probably be
> > better
> > >off sending it UPS. At the UPS store, they will
> > even pack it
> > >for you.
> > >
> > >EP
> > >
> > >--- Janna Marcilla wrote:
> > >
> > >> I have a Skutt 1227 kiln (unused)(well, I fired
> > it twice) for Leland
> > >> it's
> > >> 9 cu ft electric( you knew that). He could be
> > firing and bringing in
> > >> an
> > >> income in no time
> >
> >
>
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claybair on fri 4 nov 05


If Leland decides to pick it up
clayarters along the route could
offer lodging and food.

Gayle Bair
Bainbridge Island, WA
Tucson, AZ
http://claybair.com

-----Original Message-----
From:Joan Klotz
Hi Janna,

It is very generous of you to give your kiln to Leland. Reading his
last posting made me quite teary he is making such a valiant effort
to get things back together. In a much smaller way I'd like to help
a little so when you devise a plan to get the kiln to him I'd would
be happy to throw in $200 to help with moving expenses, just let me
know who to send the check to - you, Leland, local moving company,
UPS? Maybe a few other Clayarters would be willing to help a little,
particularly if someone could give them a rough idea of what it would
cost. Even if Leland comes to pick up the kiln himself he is going
to have to sleep and eat somewhere along the way in addition to
buying gas. Somedays I watch the world news and it all seems so
hopeless and then there is someone like you just being a good person
and it provides a little hope. Jeez, I'm getting totally sappy.

Joan Klotz

At 02:48 PM 11/3/2005, you wrote:
>I have a Skutt 1227 kiln (unused)(well, I fired it twice) for Leland it's
>9 cu ft electric( you knew that). He could be firing and bringing in an
>income in no time.
>Well, the only problem I have is getting it to him. ...


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marianne kuiper milks on fri 4 nov 05


Hey,

I had written Janna that I could drive one way IF it
had to wait for NCECA. I will fly out and help now.
With Leland's broken neck he cannot drive that far,
possibly not even with a comapnion driver. And as i
said to him/Janna: how can he wait that long to fire
stuff if he is so in need?

I'd suggested private/small/favor transportation. The
kiln can be taken apart and packed/moved one piece at
a time. That's what i just did with mine and mine is
larger (14 cft rather than 9 cft) but (gas) not as
heavy.

Re the cost: I think Clayart people have already come
up with solving that problem. What a neat bunch of
people. i want to make sure that, if I can help it,
this really happens rather than that it is talked
down. Do is a shorter, easier word than DON'T.

Must be nice down there ;) , Phil

Marianne


--- pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET wrote:

> Hi All,
>
>
> Marianne, the problem with a one-way truck rental (
> usually ) is that it is
> very expensive just-to-rent-the-truck itself, plus
> miliage charges, plus
> gas, plus food, lodgeings and time.
>
> Generally, anymore, so is "U.P.S." ridiculously
> expensive compared to Fed-ex
> or DHL just for routine little or medium weight
> things, so I doubt they
> would be more reasponable on something truely
> 'heavy'.
>
> One could ship something like this 'Common Carrier'
> ( with all due careful
> looking for the best rates and avoiding some
> companies known to make
> problems) for a fifth of a one-way truck (just the
> truck itself and nothing
> else ) rental cost for this distance.
>
> I just did a fast 'google' under 'Freight
> Forwarding' and see many listings.
>
> Too, private haulers, if one can be found, who haul
> usually non-commercial
> freight or haul private or 'collector' Cars ( ie
> 'Car Haulers') will often
> do a deed for something 'small' like this, for quite
> a bit less than Common
> Carrier.
>
> The 'UPS-Store' would likely end up being three
> times what Common Carrier
> charges would be since these 'stored' at least
> double their costs TO ship as
> well as add other fees.
>
> I am awaiting a reply from the fellow offering the
> Kiln, as for it's weight
> and outer dimensions and whether he can strap it
> with some padding or
> cushion, to a palette.
>
> Knowing these details will help.
>
>
> Once we-all have an assay of the various options and
> their costs and merits
> for this item's actual weight and size, then the
> best means will be easy to
> elect, and we can co-operate somehow to get it done.
>
> The 'Portland' nceeka seems like just too, too long
> a wait to me...
>
> Till next...
>
> Phil
> Las Vegas
>
> Who got up way WAY too early today after getting to
> bed way WAY too late.
>
> Lol...
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "marianne kuiper milks"
>
>
> > If Leland can indeed wait until Portland (a very
> long
> > wait...is that practical???) and MAKE lots of
> stuff in
> > the mean time, I could offer to fly to New Mexico
> > before NCECA, rent whatever vehicle is needed,
> make
> > packing crates and put the broken-down kiln in a
> safe
> > bed. (cross my fingers, but I've never even broken
> a
> > dried piece of greenware on long trips, or fragile
> > glass from Europe)
> >
> > With the $ help of some Clayart members, we could
> rent
> > and pay for gas. If Leland broke his neck, we can
> > break our back. A little. We (Janna, myself and
> > someone else?) would drive one-way to Oregon and
> each
> > fly home from there.
> >
> > Just a thought. One way or another I will help.
> Tell
> > me what is needed most.
> >
> > Marianne
> >
> > --- Leland Hall wrote:
> >
> > > Obviously there have been amazing developments.
> > > Both Judy and I are nearly
> > > in stunned disbelief. Deeply humbled.
> Practicaly
> > > speechless.
> > >
> > > Maybe we need potters in the White house?
> Anybody?
> > > It's just three years
> > > away ya know?
> > >
> > > Anyway, back when I started packing Bill
> Kennedey's
> > > pit fired pots for UPS,
> > > (this was '83 or so) UPS's size limitations were
> > > such that we had to be
> > > careful and skimp on packing materials so as to
> not
> > > wind up with a box that
> > > was too large or they would refuse it.
> Apparently
> > > things have changed if
> > > UPS now accepts things as large as a Skutt 1227.
> > > This sounds like a viable
> > > option, Thanks Elizabeth. UPS would not have
> > > occured to me.
> > >
> > > Don't get me started on the price of gas.
> Besides
> > > I'm not really sure I'm
> > > up to task of driving to NM and back. But I
> would
> > > do it. Bet I could.
> > >
> > > OK, so now I'm wondering, this UPS store, I,m
> > > unfamiliar. Ya think there
> > > up to the task? I wonder if it would get here
> in
> > > one piece? Well, I think
> > > a 1227, breaks down into three pieces, which
> would
> > > ship seperatly I
> > > suppose, but I mean unbroken, as in not ruined?
> I
> > > assume insurance would
> > > be wise. I've moved at least several kilns
> around
> > > Central Oregon, and it
> > > seems they don't like it too much. Have to be
> > > careful. Would Janna have
> > > to take it into a UPS Store, or might they come
> and
> > > take care of it on
> > > site? Just thinking out loud.
> > >
> > > It has also occured to Janna and I that NCECA is
> > > coming soon, is that
> > > right? In Portland I hear. Just a thought.
> > >
> > > Peace
> > > Leland
> > > La Pine, OR
> > >
> > > On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 16:59:42 -0800, Elizabeth
> Priddy
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >For the current cost of gas, you would probably
> be
> > > better
> > > >off sending it UPS. At the UPS store, they
> will
> > > even pack it
> > > >for you.
> > > >
> > > >EP
> > > >
> > > >--- Janna Marcilla
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I have a Skutt 1227 kiln (unused)(well, I
> fired
> > > it twice) for Leland
> > > >> it's
> > > >> 9 cu ft electric( you knew that). He could be
> > > firing and bringing in
> > > >> an
> > > >> income in no time
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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Leland Hall on fri 4 nov 05


Hey guys,

I think Janna has it covered. She's looking into Yellow Freight on
Monday. Possibly other alternitives. Again, I can never thank you all
enough.

But rest assured, I will spend the rest of my days on this Earth "Claying
it forward". Every chance that comes along. Every possible chance.

Back when I was in my early 20's I spent several Thanks Givings Holidays
down at Bend Oregons Salvation Army, helping to put on the"free feast for
anyone". Most of the local homeless guys showed up. Always a few familys
too. And a few teenagers, probably runaways. Stayed and cleaned up untill
midnight. My wife and I really enjoyed that. Did it for six or seven
years in a row. It felt right.

Then I moved to La Pine. Tiny rural town. I didn't go out of my way to
find a way to continue to volunteer. Got hurt. Forgot about it.

That's been on my mind today. A lot. I'm feeling like that was a mistake.
Feels like it's real close to my turn again. Or maybe past my turn. But
it's a good thing. The circle goes round-----------

Love ya all

Leland
La Pine

PS. I've created a misunderstanding about the neck. It aint broke, it's
more like unhinged. A double diskectomy, double fusion attemp. Only one
fusion happend. Called a Pseudarthrosis. Means "non-union" Means, disk
surgically removed, but then not fused. Bone on bone. sliding around.
(grinding?) Those two vertabre keep getting shorter. Inflames all the
nerves in the area. No fun. I function sorta ok with proper meds. (some
days) Shouldn't have called it broke, it just feels that way. Oh, and
can't be fixed, too dangerous. (so they tell me) Funny thing is one
Orthepedic surgeon looked at the MRI and said, "well son, I have good
news! I've seen several guys like you that had spontaneous fusion
somewhere in there late 60s or early 70s! So hang in there!"

I got a ways to go. As long as I can keep potting, I'll be ok.

b. lev on sat 5 nov 05


I've been following this wonderful thread on getting the kiln to Leland =
(what an amazing village this is)
Janna, your generosity is inspiring to all of us I think.

I am just wondering if contacting SKUTT directly and asking them for =
assistance with getting packing material for the kiln and / or even =
asking if they would be willing to facilitate the transportation =
arrangements would be worth the call. Janna, Alternatively, is there a =
chance that there is a pottery supply place in your area that receives =
skutt merchandise and might be able to pass on the packing material to =
you?

bev