Candace Young/Norman Czuchra on fri 25 nov 05
I'm in the midst of moving kilns and shuffling gas tanks so my usual big
gas tank isn't hooked up yet to the raku kiln. Has anyone been successful
in firing with the little propane tanks?
Candace
Candace Young mailto:candace@bayriverpottery.com
Norm Czuchra mailto:norm@bayriverpottery.com
www.bayriverpottery.com
107 S. Water Street, P.O. Box 394
Bayboro, NC 28515
252.745.4749
William & Susan Schran User on fri 25 nov 05
On 11/25/05 7:57 AM, "Candace Young/Norman Czuchra"
wrote:
> Has anyone been successful
> in firing with the little propane tanks?
We use the #20 & #30 tanks. Just put the tank in a bath of water.
-- William "Bill" Schran
Fredericksburg, Virginia
wschran@cox.net
wschran@nvcc.edu
Jeff Guin on fri 25 nov 05
Norm,
I've been experimenting with materials and building various raku kilns the
past month. Just last Tuesday I used the gas tank from our gas barbeque
grill to fire a small raku kiln I had made with fire brick. The tank was
only 3/4 full and I almost got to temp. Had it been full I would have hit
temp. I also remember firing fiber lined raku kilns at Bemidji State with
the small propane tanks. I'm sure we got a couple firings, if not three, out
of a tank of gas. It all depends on the type of kiln.
Jeff Guin
Coon Valley, WI
http://mudwerks.blogspot.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mudhead99/
>From: Candace Young/Norman Czuchra
>Reply-To: Clayart
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Possible to raku with grill size tanks?
>Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 07:57:59 -0500
>
>I'm in the midst of moving kilns and shuffling gas tanks so my usual big
>gas tank isn't hooked up yet to the raku kiln. Has anyone been successful
>in firing with the little propane tanks?
>Candace
>Candace Young mailto:candace@bayriverpottery.com
>
>Norm Czuchra mailto:norm@bayriverpottery.com
>
>www.bayriverpottery.com
>
>107 S. Water Street, P.O. Box 394
>Bayboro, NC 28515
>
>252.745.4749
>
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L. P. Skeen on fri 25 nov 05
O sure, go for it. We used to do it all the time before we got the big
tank. :)
L
----- Original Message -----
From: "Candace Young/Norman Czuchra"
Has anyone been successful
> in firing with the little propane tanks?
> Candace
Marcia Selsor on fri 25 nov 05
I use three small tanks hooked up in tandem. I can fire two raku
kilns all day, many firings, 10, 12 per kiln.
And I still have as left over.
I use three at a time to avoid fast freeze up of the tanks caused by
using the fumes faster than they can evaporate in the tank
(simplified explanation).
My kilns are interior 25 diameter x 33 ht and 20 x 33. I also fire
my big pulley kiln interior (27w x 36l x 34 h) with this set up but
use both burners on it. I can fire
this 8-10 in a day, no problem. My kilns are on brick bases with 2
inch fiber sprayed with ITC on the inside and rigidzer on the
outside. Hardware fabric for the walls.
The big one has angle iron frame. I think it depends on how your
kilns are built. I also have good burners from Marc Ward. I use 2.5-3
lbs pressure on my regulator.
Marcia
On Nov 25, 2005, at 5:57 AM, Candace Young/Norman Czuchra wrote:
> I'm in the midst of moving kilns and shuffling gas tanks so my
> usual big
> gas tank isn't hooked up yet to the raku kiln. Has anyone been
> successful
> in firing with the little propane tanks?
> Candace
> Candace Young mailto:candace@bayriverpottery.com
>
> Norm Czuchra mailto:norm@bayriverpottery.com
>
> www.bayriverpottery.com
>
> 107 S. Water Street, P.O. Box 394
> Bayboro, NC 28515
>
> 252.745.4749
>
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Hank Murrow on fri 25 nov 05
On Nov 25, 2005, at 6:37 AM, Jeff Guin wrote:
>
> I've been experimenting with materials and building various raku kilns
> the
> past month. Just last Tuesday I used the gas tank from our gas barbeque
> grill to fire a small raku kiln I had made with fire brick. The tank
> was
> only 3/4 full and I almost got to temp. Had it been full I would have
> hit
> temp. I also remember firing fiber lined raku kilns at Bemidji State
> with
> the small propane tanks. I'm sure we got a couple firings, if not
> three, out
> of a tank of gas. It all depends on the type of kiln.
Good point, Jeff;
I once fired one of my Doorless Fiberkilns on a couple of 25 gallon
tanks manifolded together to avoid freeze-up, and the firing for this
27 cubic footer used around 18 gallons total.
Cheers, Hank in Eugene
www.murrow.biz/hank
Frank Colson on fri 25 nov 05
Candace- Its done every day. Meet ROCKY RAKU who can't live without a
"little propane tank" www.R2D2u.com
Frank Colson
www.R2D2u.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Candace Young/Norman Czuchra"
To:
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 7:57 AM
Subject: Possible to raku with grill size tanks?
> I'm in the midst of moving kilns and shuffling gas tanks so my usual big
> gas tank isn't hooked up yet to the raku kiln. Has anyone been successful
> in firing with the little propane tanks?
> Candace
> Candace Young mailto:candace@bayriverpottery.com
>
> Norm Czuchra mailto:norm@bayriverpottery.com
>
> www.bayriverpottery.com
>
> 107 S. Water Street, P.O. Box 394
> Bayboro, NC 28515
>
> 252.745.4749
>
>
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Jeff Brown on fri 25 nov 05
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 07:57:59 -0500, Candace Young/Norman Czuchra
wrote:
>I'm in the midst of moving kilns and shuffling gas tanks so my usual big
>gas tank isn't hooked up yet to the raku kiln. Has anyone been successful
>in firing with the little propane tanks?
>Candace
Hi Candace,
I do use 20# propane tanks when I do Raku workshop's away from my studio.
I struggled with one tank per burner, pouring water over it when the
pressure would drop, and also putting it in a tub of water, but found it
better to connect two tanks together using a 3/8 inch T connector and a few
other fittings connected to 2 short flexible hoses going to the 2 tanks,
and a 15 foot hose to the burner.
I would get maybe 2 1/2 firings out of one tank at a time, by pouring water
over it, then quickly changing tanks.
...and 6 firing with the two connected together without the water.
You or Norm could make the connector hoses assembly today if you need
it...or ...
Ward Burner Systems ...makes a UL approved connector.
PO Box 1086 - Dandridge, TN 37725
(865)397-2914 - (865)397-1253 fax
I could send you a digital image of my connector if you need it.
Thank you,
Jeff Brown
950 1st NH Turnpike
Northwood, NH 03261
(603) 942-8829
http://www.jeffbrownpottery.com
Tony Ferguson on fri 25 nov 05
Jeff,
If insulated right, you can easily get 10 to 12 firings from a 20 pound propane tank. I have a 20, and two 30's (for raku and use on wood kiln for candling as you know). The raku kilns I designed use 2 inches of high density 8# fiber that is rated at 2700 degrees. Give me a buzz next week and I will answer your other questions from your email.
Tony
Jeff Guin wrote:
Norm,
I've been experimenting with materials and building various raku kilns the
past month. Just last Tuesday I used the gas tank from our gas barbeque
grill to fire a small raku kiln I had made with fire brick. The tank was
only 3/4 full and I almost got to temp. Had it been full I would have hit
temp. I also remember firing fiber lined raku kilns at Bemidji State with
the small propane tanks. I'm sure we got a couple firings, if not three, out
of a tank of gas. It all depends on the type of kiln.
Jeff Guin
Coon Valley, WI
http://mudwerks.blogspot.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mudhead99/
>From: Candace Young/Norman Czuchra
>Reply-To: Clayart
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Possible to raku with grill size tanks?
>Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 07:57:59 -0500
>
>I'm in the midst of moving kilns and shuffling gas tanks so my usual big
>gas tank isn't hooked up yet to the raku kiln. Has anyone been successful
>in firing with the little propane tanks?
>Candace
>Candace Young mailto:candace@bayriverpottery.com
>
>Norm Czuchra mailto:norm@bayriverpottery.com
>
>www.bayriverpottery.com
>
>107 S. Water Street, P.O. Box 394
>Bayboro, NC 28515
>
>252.745.4749
>
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William & Susan Schran User on fri 25 nov 05
On 11/25/05 11:09 AM, "Jeff Brown" wrote:
> I would get maybe 2 1/2 firings out of one tank at a time, by pouring water
> over it, then quickly changing tanks.
Using a small fiber lined kiln, we would get at least six firings, sometimes
seven or eight firings out of a #20 propane tank.
We would need to put the tank in a plastic tub with water that would come up
about 1/2 way up the tank. We could get all of the gas out of the tank.
I think many folks use WAY TOO MUCH pressure. On our pressure gauge (0-15"),
we have it set to about 1 - 1 1/2", that's it.
First firing, about 45 minutes to 1 hour. After the kiln heats up 20 - 30
minutes per firing.
-- William "Bill" Schran
Fredericksburg, Virginia
wschran@cox.net
wschran@nvcc.edu
Frank Colson on sat 26 nov 05
Well, of course, all things are relative aren't they? With the same size
propane half the size described, ROCKY RAKU will reach raku glaze melt
temperature in less than a minute! ROCKY has actually fired in excess of 20
bowls on that one tank. An exaggeration you say? There is plenty of proof
that is can be done and is being done! Meet ROCKY at www.R2D2u.com
Frank Colson
www.R2D2u.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "William & Susan Schran User"
To:
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: Possible to raku with grill size tanks?
> On 11/25/05 11:09 AM, "Jeff Brown" wrote:
>
> > I would get maybe 2 1/2 firings out of one tank at a time, by pouring
water
> > over it, then quickly changing tanks.
>
> Using a small fiber lined kiln, we would get at least six firings,
sometimes
> seven or eight firings out of a #20 propane tank.
>
> We would need to put the tank in a plastic tub with water that would come
up
> about 1/2 way up the tank. We could get all of the gas out of the tank.
>
> I think many folks use WAY TOO MUCH pressure. On our pressure gauge
(0-15"),
> we have it set to about 1 - 1 1/2", that's it.
>
> First firing, about 45 minutes to 1 hour. After the kiln heats up 20 - 30
> minutes per firing.
>
>
> -- William "Bill" Schran
> Fredericksburg, Virginia
> wschran@cox.net
> wschran@nvcc.edu
>
>
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