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low fire ware used in oven for baking?

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Cheryl Harvey on mon 28 nov 05


I have seen many posts regarding the food safety of low fire ware. I have
spent hours trying to find an answer to my question, so please forgive me
if I have missed it. Without trying to start another debate, as there
seem to be many, I am simply trying to find out the following:

Assume I bisque to 04 and glaze to 06 with a food safe glaze. Also assume
the ware is glazed properly, without cracks, bubbles, pin holes, etc.
Assume I will hand wash my ware and will not use it in the microwave
(these seem to be the issues with low fire I have seen most).

My question is this - Can my ware be used to actually bake food in the
oven? For instance a lidded casserole or a quiche dish? Or should it only
be used to serve food?

I have made several dishes to give as Christmas gifts and want to know how
to instruct the receipients properly on their use.

Thank you for your patience and responses. This is my first post!

Cheryl Harvey
Orange County, CA

steve graber on mon 28 nov 05


cook away! they'll be fine. just stress "no open flame". best used if they are loaded with foods, and put into the oven and then turn the oven up to temp. serve to the table if you like.

see ya

steve



Cheryl Harvey wrote:
I have seen many posts regarding the food safety of low fire ware. I have
spent hours trying to find an answer to my question, so please forgive me
if I have missed it. Without trying to start another debate, as there
seem to be many, I am simply trying to find out the following:

Assume I bisque to 04 and glaze to 06 with a food safe glaze. Also assume
the ware is glazed properly, without cracks, bubbles, pin holes, etc.
Assume I will hand wash my ware and will not use it in the microwave
(these seem to be the issues with low fire I have seen most).

My question is this - Can my ware be used to actually bake food in the
oven? For instance a lidded casserole or a quiche dish? Or should it only
be used to serve food?

I have made several dishes to give as Christmas gifts and want to know how
to instruct the receipients properly on their use.

Thank you for your patience and responses. This is my first post!

Cheryl Harvey
Orange County, CA

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gjudson on mon 28 nov 05


I have a set of dishes I bought in Mexico. The dishes are made of =
earthen
ware clay and glazed in the style of Majolica. I don't know the exact
particulars of the production process. However, I've had the dishes for
over 25 years. We don't use the dishes daily but do use them frequently
through all the years we had them. I have one chipped dish--where some =
of
the glaze and a bit of clay chipped of the rim of a plate. I have =
always
put these dishes in the dishwasher. They are not crazed or cracked =
other
than the one chip. But I have not cooked in them--in microwave or
oven--other than to "hold" something already cooked to keep it warm in =
the
oven.

Just to share my experience. Gay Judson, San Antonio, TX

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> Subject: Low fire ware used in oven for baking?
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> I have seen many posts regarding the food safety of low fire ware. I =
have
> spent hours trying to find an answer to my question, so please forgive =
me
> if I have missed it. Without trying to start another debate, as there
> seem to be many, I am simply trying to find out the following:
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> Assume I bisque to 04 and glaze to 06 with a food safe glaze. Also =
assume
> the ware is glazed properly, without cracks, bubbles, pin holes, etc.
> Assume I will hand wash my ware and will not use it in the microwave
> (these seem to be the issues with low fire I have seen most).
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> My question is this - Can my ware be used to actually bake food in the
> oven? For instance a lidded casserole or a quiche dish? Or should it =
only
> be used to serve food?
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> I have made several dishes to give as Christmas gifts and want to know =
how
> to instruct the receipients properly on their use.
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> Thank you for your patience and responses. This is my first post!
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> Cheryl Harvey
> Orange County, CA
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Wayne on mon 28 nov 05


Cheryl and all:

To be most safe, advise the gift recipients to use the ware ONLY to
serve, not to bake. That's the answer I believe you'll get from
most folks on the list, and with good reason. No one likes glass
shards in the pot roast.

However....I'm going to stick my (not inconsequentially sized)
proboscis (nose, for the rest of you) in the fire for a minute.

In the latest "Sur La Table" catalog (yeah, alright, I admit it, I'm
a catalog junkie, quit snickering, Taylor) there is being advertised
a baking dish (set?) made from earthenware or stoneware, I forget.
The glaze is THE most hideous lime green, but I digress...

In the catalog, they advertise (I have to paraphrase here, because
partner threw away that catalog) that before first use, the piece
should be soaked in water for some amount of time, then dried and
allowed to preheat _with_the_oven_. It should not be subjected to
extreme temperature changes, or put directly into a hot oven (from
the refrigerator, I assume).

To my way of thinking, if you have a good fit for your
glaze-to-claybody, and you've run the MC6 Ron/John tests (and
passed) you should be able to subject that ware to oven temps of up
to 500=B0F or so...
SLOWLY!
IMHO, YMMV, tax not included, shipping and handling extra

Best,
Wayne Seidl

-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Cheryl
Harvey
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:49 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Low fire ware used in oven for baking?

I have seen many posts regarding the food safety of low fire ware.
I have
spent hours trying to find an answer to my question, so please
forgive me
if I have missed it. Without trying to start another debate, as
there
seem to be many, I am simply trying to find out the following:

Assume I bisque to 04 and glaze to 06 with a food safe glaze. Also
assume
the ware is glazed properly, without cracks, bubbles, pin holes,
etc.
Assume I will hand wash my ware and will not use it in the microwave
(these seem to be the issues with low fire I have seen most).

My question is this - Can my ware be used to actually bake food in
the
oven? For instance a lidded casserole or a quiche dish? Or should
it only
be used to serve food?

I have made several dishes to give as Christmas gifts and want to
know how
to instruct the receipients properly on their use.

Thank you for your patience and responses. This is my first post!

Cheryl Harvey
Orange County, CA

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