Antoinette Badenhorst on fri 9 dec 05
Dear Clayarters, today I am going to approach you with a long shot. =
About a
year ago I started working with schools around the state of MS and as =
you
will know many schools can not afford a kiln and will not make that
available to the schools. This far I've collected the children's work =
and
fired it back home, but as my work becomes more noticed, I need to find
other ways to approach the firing process, since I am working further =
away
from home. One of the things that got me on the artist roster program is
that I can fire "primitive" Yes without knowing the pit fire process the
organizers assumed me coming from Africa, will be able to fire just well
without a kiln. That is true if I have the pieces bisque first! My =
problem
is that neither do I want to loose 50% of the children's work, nor do I =
want
to work with fast drying clay. So, I was wondering if there is any one =
of
you out there that could manage to fire clay from raw to finish in a
primitive way without loosing so many pieces. If you did, would you mind
sharing with me the full process of what you've done. Right now my head =
is
spinning with ideas of how I can control a firing process in a primitive
kiln on a school ground that is put together in a short period of time.=20
Obviously I will have to use shock resistant clay and if I can build a =
basic
kiln that I can pick up and go, or that is cheap enough for me to leave
behind every time, that would be wonderful.=20
Any ideas will be so wonderful and if you have a perfect solution, =
please
share with me. The value of working with children just dawned on me =
again
this week as I was working with some troubled kids in a math class.
Thank you so much.
=20
=20
=20
Do you need sharp trimming tools that will not wear out quickly? Contact =
me
for information.=20
Antoinette Badenhorst
105 Westwood Circle
Saltillo MS, 38866
662 869 1651
www.clayandcanvas.com
www.southernartistry.org
=20
=20
Jared Webster on fri 9 dec 05
Two years ago while attending BYU my ceramics instructor showed me a
fiber kiln that was built on a trailer. Cone ten, I believe it could
do that in 3 hours. It was an article in one of the ceramics
periodicals. At this point I've forgotten. I know others here have
fiber kilns because they've shared likes to pictures of them.
Something like this seems to be exactly whats in order.
Jared
On 12/9/05, Antoinette Badenhorst wrote:
> Dear Clayarters, today I am going to approach you with a long shot. About=
a
> year ago I started working with schools around the state of MS and as you
> will know many schools can not afford a kiln and will not make that
> available to the schools. This far I've collected the children's work and
> fired it back home, but as my work becomes more noticed, I need to find
> other ways to approach the firing process, since I am working further awa=
y
> from home. One of the things that got me on the artist roster program is
> that I can fire "primitive" Yes without knowing the pit fire process the
> organizers assumed me coming from Africa, will be able to fire just well
> without a kiln. That is true if I have the pieces bisque first! My proble=
m
> is that neither do I want to loose 50% of the children's work, nor do I w=
ant
> to work with fast drying clay. So, I was wondering if there is any one of
> you out there that could manage to fire clay from raw to finish in a
> primitive way without loosing so many pieces. If you did, would you mind
> sharing with me the full process of what you've done. Right now my head i=
s
> spinning with ideas of how I can control a firing process in a primitive
> kiln on a school ground that is put together in a short period of time.
>
> Obviously I will have to use shock resistant clay and if I can build a ba=
sic
> kiln that I can pick up and go, or that is cheap enough for me to leave
> behind every time, that would be wonderful.
>
> Any ideas will be so wonderful and if you have a perfect solution, please
> share with me. The value of working with children just dawned on me again
> this week as I was working with some troubled kids in a math class.
>
> Thank you so much.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Do you need sharp trimming tools that will not wear out quickly? Contact =
me
> for information.
>
> Antoinette Badenhorst
>
> 105 Westwood Circle
>
> Saltillo MS, 38866
>
> 662 869 1651
>
> www.clayandcanvas.com
>
> www.southernartistry.org
>
>
>
>
>
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steve graber on fri 9 dec 05
i haven't tried it yet, but one component of primative is clay mixed with straws & grass. these elements burn out gracefully (?) and [i think] leave holes in the claybody for letting moisture out for the higher tempfire
see ya
steve
Antoinette Badenhorst wrote:
Dear Clayarters, today I am going to approach you with a long shot. About a
year ago I started working with schools around the state of MS and as you
will know many schools can not afford a kiln and will not make that
available to the schools. This far I've collected the children's work and
fired it back home, but as my work becomes more noticed, I need to find
other ways to approach the firing process, since I am working further away
from home. One of the things that got me on the artist roster program is
that I can fire "primitive" Yes without knowing the pit fire process the
organizers assumed me coming from Africa, will be able to fire just well
without a kiln. That is true if I have the pieces bisque first! My problem
is that neither do I want to loose 50% of the children's work, nor do I want
to work with fast drying clay. So, I was wondering if there is any one of
you out there that could manage to fire clay from raw to finish in a
primitive way without loosing so many pieces. If you did, would you mind
sharing with me the full process of what you've done. Right now my head is
spinning with ideas of how I can control a firing process in a primitive
kiln on a school ground that is put together in a short period of time.
Obviously I will have to use shock resistant clay and if I can build a basic
kiln that I can pick up and go, or that is cheap enough for me to leave
behind every time, that would be wonderful.
Any ideas will be so wonderful and if you have a perfect solution, please
share with me. The value of working with children just dawned on me again
this week as I was working with some troubled kids in a math class.
Thank you so much.
Do you need sharp trimming tools that will not wear out quickly? Contact me
for information.
Antoinette Badenhorst
105 Westwood Circle
Saltillo MS, 38866
662 869 1651
www.clayandcanvas.com
www.southernartistry.org
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marianne kuiper milks on fri 9 dec 05
Hello Antoinette!
How have you been?
I have been in classes (workshops) at Peters Valley NJ, where only one firing was done. Which one of the visiting instructors did that I do not remember. However, PV is on the web. The head of ceramics is Bruce Dehnert and he may well remember/know of the process.
The other possibility (not so cheap) is to buy a kiln from Randy Brodnax. He has designed a gas kiln that is made "to go" and can be dismantled easily if needed. Ity sits on a stand and i believe even has wheels. The stuff (incl. Seger) that came out of it was wonderful. I believe it cost $2000. But he has an enormous heart and I would not be surprised if he gave you better ideas. It runs on gas.
That's the best I can think of. If I can find a picture, I will forward it.
Marianne
PS I sent the pictures. Two of them.
Antoinette Badenhorst wrote: Dear Clayarters, today I am going to approach you with a long shot. About a
year ago I started working with schools around the state of MS and as you
will know many schools can not afford a kiln and will not make that
available to the schools. This far I've collected the children's work and
fired it back home, but as my work becomes more noticed, I need to find
other ways to approach the firing process, since I am working further away
from home. One of the things that got me on the artist roster program is
that I can fire "primitive" Yes without knowing the pit fire process the
organizers assumed me coming from Africa, will be able to fire just well
without a kiln. That is true if I have the pieces bisque first! My problem
is that neither do I want to loose 50% of the children's work, nor do I want
to work with fast drying clay. So, I was wondering if there is any one of
you out there that could manage to fire clay from raw to finish in a
primitive way without loosing so many pieces. If you did, would you mind
sharing with me the full process of what you've done. Right now my head is
spinning with ideas of how I can control a firing process in a primitive
kiln on a school ground that is put together in a short period of time.
Obviously I will have to use shock resistant clay and if I can build a basic
kiln that I can pick up and go, or that is cheap enough for me to leave
behind every time, that would be wonderful.
Any ideas will be so wonderful and if you have a perfect solution, please
share with me. The value of working with children just dawned on me again
this week as I was working with some troubled kids in a math class.
Thank you so much.
Do you need sharp trimming tools that will not wear out quickly? Contact me
for information.
Antoinette Badenhorst
105 Westwood Circle
Saltillo MS, 38866
662 869 1651
www.clayandcanvas.com
www.southernartistry.org
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Marta Matray Gloviczki on fri 9 dec 05
Antoinette,
i have a small portable raku kiln,
bought it at nceca few years ago.
it fires with a bbq tank to about cone 06.
but even if it only reaches cone 010 or 012
that would be enough for a low bisque temp.
maybe your school can afford to buy one of these,
or build your own. the first load is always slow,
probably not as slow as an electric bisque, but
if i wouldnt have other - or better- options,
i`d bisque the pots in that.
also, make sure you use
raku clay for a stronger clay body.
marta matray gloviczki
rochester,mn
http://www.angelfire.com/mn2/marta/
http://users.skynet.be/russel.fouts/Marta.htm
http://www.silverhawk.com/crafts/gloviczki/welcome.html
Frank Colson on fri 9 dec 05
Antoinette- Let's hope your prayers come true. The answer, my friend, it to
simply use a light weight (10 lbs.) portable kiln. You can pop it into the
trunk of your car, take it to school, bring it home and store it in the mop
closet! All of this and you can do bisque firing or low temp glaze firing.
What more could you ask for? This is NOT a normal kiln, believe me. But
then it takes more than a normal person to use such a
kiln as ROCKY! Yes, you could bisque fire, straight fire, or even "wet
fire" with this kiln. To learn more and be able to have your cake and eat
it too, go to www.R2D2u.com After checking the FAQ's as well, you will know
how to adapt. I am confident in you with this!
Total "wet firing", by the way, is a proven means of firing and glazing, a
pot, without drying the clay at all after making a form.
Frank Colson
www.R2D2u.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Antoinette Badenhorst"
To:
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 2:30 PM
Subject: Firing without a "normal" kiln
Dear Clayarters, today I am going to approach you with a long shot. About a
year ago I started working with schools around the state of MS and as you
will know many schools can not afford a kiln and will not make that
available to the schools. This far I've collected the children's work and
fired it back home, but as my work becomes more noticed, I need to find
other ways to approach the firing process, since I am working further away
from home. One of the things that got me on the artist roster program is
that I can fire "primitive" Yes without knowing the pit fire process the
organizers assumed me coming from Africa, will be able to fire just well
without a kiln. That is true if I have the pieces bisque first! My problem
is that neither do I want to loose 50% of the children's work, nor do I want
to work with fast drying clay. So, I was wondering if there is any one of
you out there that could manage to fire clay from raw to finish in a
primitive way without loosing so many pieces. If you did, would you mind
sharing with me the full process of what you've done. Right now my head is
spinning with ideas of how I can control a firing process in a primitive
kiln on a school ground that is put together in a short period of time.
Obviously I will have to use shock resistant clay and if I can build a basic
kiln that I can pick up and go, or that is cheap enough for me to leave
behind every time, that would be wonderful.
Any ideas will be so wonderful and if you have a perfect solution, please
share with me. The value of working with children just dawned on me again
this week as I was working with some troubled kids in a math class.
Thank you so much.
Do you need sharp trimming tools that will not wear out quickly? Contact me
for information.
Antoinette Badenhorst
105 Westwood Circle
Saltillo MS, 38866
662 869 1651
www.clayandcanvas.com
www.southernartistry.org
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Gary Navarre on sat 10 dec 05
Hi Antoinette and Crew,
Primative is how I started out teaching myself to wood fire, in a camp
fire or short burning barrel. I think I opened the stoneware clay with some
medium grog, made some pieces, set them near the heat to dry and as they got
warmer nudged them closer to the fire. When the items were too hot to touch
I waited a bit longer till they were really too hot to touch and nudged them
into the coals. If they adjusted to the heat and didn't blow up I added wood
and made a hotter fire. Worked great with my buddy's kids when we went
camping near Muskegon, Michigan. I also built a trench kiln for some kids in
a workshop some time ago. I'll have to find the photos and VHS and see what
I can do with them when I get my new machine out of lay away at Wal-Mart. It
was real windy when VHS was shot so the sound needs cleaning up to hear my
firing comments. That's how I started out, primative firing, not bad for a
white boy from Dearborn, eh? Gittin 'er done, stayin in there!
G in da U.P.
May Luk on sat 10 dec 05
Hello Antoinette;
Ian Gregory built a fast fire rocket kiln and demo-ed it at the
Aberyswyth International Ceramics Festival last year. It also comes in
the form of a super market trolley. Jenny Lewis put a couple of photos here;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/21152566@N00
I don't know much about it. I remember it firing at an amazing rate of
speed. The demonstrating potters are always engaged with somebody at the
festival. It can be like boxing day at Macy's - long queue to the
counter. Hard to get any information if you miss the talk in the main hall.
There's a translation of the book Minigama written by Akika Yoshida and
translated by Naoko Gomi. You can search the archive and find out her
address for purchase if you are interested.
Mr Akira Yoshida also wrote 'Paper kiln' (Futabasha Publisher, 2002)
appears to be useful. Could be something to look into. Perhaps Lee in
Japan can sort out some information about it.
Best Wishes
May
Lee Love on sat 10 dec 05
On 2005/12/10 4:30:45, timakia@bellsouth.net wrote:
You might look into this guy's "minigama" work. He does workshops
where they build these miniature kilns:
(translation by bablefish)
http://tinyurl.com/acqq3
You might be able to primitive fire the little kilns.
Also look at his hibachi kilns and also the interesting work
that comes out of both kilns.
--
Lee Love
in Mashiko, Japan http://mashiko.org
http://seisokuro.blogspot.com/ My Photo Logs
"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided
missiles and misguided
men".
--Martin Luther King Jr. (1929 - 1968)
Antoinette Badenhorst on sun 11 dec 05
Thanks everybody for answering my question. I thought I am coming up =
with
the most difficult thing on this earth and there you guys have it right =
at
your fingertips. I will look into it and report back when I get =
something
going.
Do you need sharp trimming tools that will not wear out quickly? Contact =
me
for information.=20
Antoinette Badenhorst
105 Westwood Circle
Saltillo MS, 38866
662 869 1651
www.clayandcanvas.com
www.southernartistry.org
=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Frank =
Colson
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 10:11 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: Firing without a "normal" kiln
Antoinette- Let's hope your prayers come true. The answer, my friend, =
it to
simply use a light weight (10 lbs.) portable kiln. You can pop it into =
the
trunk of your car, take it to school, bring it home and store it in the =
mop
closet! All of this and you can do bisque firing or low temp glaze =
firing.
What more could you ask for? This is NOT a normal kiln, believe me. =
But
then it takes more than a normal person to use such a
kiln as ROCKY! Yes, you could bisque fire, straight fire, or even "wet
fire" with this kiln. To learn more and be able to have your cake and =
eat
it too, go to www.R2D2u.com After checking the FAQ's as well, you will =
know
how to adapt. I am confident in you with this!
Total "wet firing", by the way, is a proven means of firing and glazing, =
a
pot, without drying the clay at all after making a form.
Frank Colson
www.R2D2u.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Antoinette Badenhorst"
To:
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 2:30 PM
Subject: Firing without a "normal" kiln
Dear Clayarters, today I am going to approach you with a long shot. =
About a
year ago I started working with schools around the state of MS and as =
you
will know many schools can not afford a kiln and will not make that
available to the schools. This far I've collected the children's work =
and
fired it back home, but as my work becomes more noticed, I need to find
other ways to approach the firing process, since I am working further =
away
from home. One of the things that got me on the artist roster program is
that I can fire "primitive" Yes without knowing the pit fire process the
organizers assumed me coming from Africa, will be able to fire just well
without a kiln. That is true if I have the pieces bisque first! My =
problem
is that neither do I want to loose 50% of the children's work, nor do I =
want
to work with fast drying clay. So, I was wondering if there is any one =
of
you out there that could manage to fire clay from raw to finish in a
primitive way without loosing so many pieces. If you did, would you mind
sharing with me the full process of what you've done. Right now my head =
is
spinning with ideas of how I can control a firing process in a primitive
kiln on a school ground that is put together in a short period of time.
Obviously I will have to use shock resistant clay and if I can build a =
basic
kiln that I can pick up and go, or that is cheap enough for me to leave
behind every time, that would be wonderful.
Any ideas will be so wonderful and if you have a perfect solution, =
please
share with me. The value of working with children just dawned on me =
again
this week as I was working with some troubled kids in a math class.
Thank you so much.
Do you need sharp trimming tools that will not wear out quickly? Contact =
me
for information.
Antoinette Badenhorst
105 Westwood Circle
Saltillo MS, 38866
662 869 1651
www.clayandcanvas.com
www.southernartistry.org
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