Bev Lev on sun 18 dec 05
Hi all.
I am turning to the group for some help here.
Does anyone do surface finishing workshops or glaze application =
workshops
Working in clay has its challenges. We all seem to spend alot of time on =
glazes... researching testing, trying to understand......... and then =
there is application. The real place to make a mess of it all.
=20
I have come to the conclusion that while I love to make the pieces, I am =
seriously growing to hate the finishing. I find nothing more frustrating =
than glaze application. Particularly for large bowls and tall vessels. =
At the moment I have decided that my only way out of this mess is to =
build a spray booth but that poses other challenges. I can build the box =
but I dont quite get the venting so I need help on that one too.
Maybe its me I cant seem to get that special touch.......I know practice =
makes perfect ... but enough already!. I am sick of ruining lovely =
pieces.Is there a general lack of attention paid to teaching glaze =
application?. . if anybody knows anybody doing workshops that pay =
attention to surface treatment and glaze application please please..... =
let us know.=20
thanks=20
Bev
lela martens on sun 18 dec 05
This isn`t answering your question Bev, but I do share your frustration.
Sometimes I think we glaze too much. A bowl can be beautiful just glazed on
the inside. I have a gorgeous one from Iceland like that. I think just the
clay on it`s own has a specialness.
Some spray, and I would like to get into that more, but just don`t have the
space for a cabinet.
I bought some very large plastic bowls for glazing at the dollar store, and
that helps..but yes, a frustration.
Depends on how particular one is, varieing thickeness of the glaze,..ahh I
could go on..
But no. I don`t have an answer, except the practise.. Or the library may
have a book with some hints.
Good luck from Lela
>I am turning to the group for some help here.
>Does anyone do surface finishing workshops or glaze application workshops
>Working in clay has its challenges. We all seem to spend alot of time on
>glazes... researching testing, trying to understand......... and then there
>is application. The real place to make a mess of it all.
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Carol Tripp on sun 18 dec 05
Hi Bev,
Chris Campbell loves this place and I had a look at it the other day. There
is a glaze workshop for you during the second session;
http://www.shakerag.org/workshops.html
Scroll down the page to Sam Chung.
Best regards,
Carol
Dubai
Bev wrote, in part:
>I am turning to the group for some help here.
>Does anyone do surface finishing workshops or glaze application workshops
>Working in clay has its challenges. We all seem to spend alot of time on
>glazes... researching testing, trying to understand......... and then there
>is application. The real place to make a mess of it all.
>
>
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marianne kuiper milks on sun 18 dec 05
Hello Bev,
I am so glad to read your post. I have already asked for this...no response aside from "it takes all of us a long time". Which I appreciate but...a few steps in the right direction helps.
Yes, if you could gather more people, I'm sure we could find one of THE BEST ;)
instructor/artists/professors/ceramists in Clayart to take up the challenge!
Re the spraybooth: I love to spray for some things. I have the sprayer equipment and wondered if one could not simply have a small, portable booth (filter at opposite wall/ceiling?) that stays outside, downwind. Wear good face protection and off you go. Save your spraying for days with less wind. What do you think?
Marianne - glazing class member.
Bev Lev wrote: Hi all.
I am turning to the group for some help here.
Does anyone do surface finishing workshops or glaze application workshops
Working in clay has its challenges. We all seem to spend alot of time on glazes... researching testing, trying to understand......... and then there is application. The real place to make a mess of it all.
I have come to the conclusion that while I love to make the pieces, I am seriously growing to hate the finishing. I find nothing more frustrating than glaze application. Particularly for large bowls and tall vessels. At the moment I have decided that my only way out of this mess is to build a spray booth but that poses other challenges. I can build the box but I dont quite get the venting so I need help on that one too.
Maybe its me I cant seem to get that special touch.......I know practice makes perfect ... but enough already!. I am sick of ruining lovely pieces.Is there a general lack of attention paid to teaching glaze application?. . if anybody knows anybody doing workshops that pay attention to surface treatment and glaze application please please..... let us know.
thanks
Bev
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L. P. Skeen on sun 18 dec 05
Seems to me I read in the POtters Pages that there will be a couple of
surface treatment workshops this year, but I could be wrong. Check the
ACERS website for that.
Glaze application often depends on the effect you want to achieve. If
you're using ash glazes, you definitely don't want them too thick, or they
will run like an escaped felon. Thus, most every ash-glazer I know uses the
spray method.
Sounds like you're trying to dip pots into containers that are too small for
them. Consider larger containers if you're going to make larger pieces.
Also, if you look in some pottery making books, there is usually at least
one image of glaze application. The one that comes to mind as appropriate
for the large bowls you mention is to put two dowel rods across the opening
of a 5-gallon bucket. Place the bowl rimside down on the dowels and pour
glaze over the outside. Then hold the bowl by the footring and run a wash
of glaze inside, turning while pouring the glaze back out, to obtain an
even coat.
You can brush glazes as well, although this takes longer.
L
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bev Lev"
Does anyone do surface finishing workshops or glaze application workshops
Rikki Gill on sun 18 dec 05
Hi Bev,
Actually, I have noticed that much more attention is being paid to glaze and
decoration lately.
I know for myself, there are many ways to get around the perfect, [somewhat
uninteresting to me] surface.
I will be one of several presenters at a Mother Earth Clay Art Center/
Potters Council Surface Design Conference in Sunnyvale, Ca in April 2006.
I incorporate many styles, and tools, slips, glazes, accidental effects and
prefer the decoration part to anything else.
For my style you can look at my website.
www.rikkigillceramics.com
You can find out more about the conference from the Potters Council website
or Abby O'connell abbyo@mamasclay
Thanks, and good luck
Rikki gill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bev Lev"
To:
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 7:04 AM
Subject: on glaze application - call for help
Hi all.
I am turning to the group for some help here.
Does anyone do surface finishing workshops or glaze application workshops
Working in clay has its challenges. We all seem to spend alot of time on
glazes... researching testing, trying to understand......... and then there
is application. The real place to make a mess of it all.
I have come to the conclusion that while I love to make the pieces, I am
seriously growing to hate the finishing. I find nothing more frustrating
than glaze application. Particularly for large bowls and tall vessels. At
the moment I have decided that my only way out of this mess is to build a
spray booth but that poses other challenges. I can build the box but I dont
quite get the venting so I need help on that one too.
Maybe its me I cant seem to get that special touch.......I know practice
makes perfect ... but enough already!. I am sick of ruining lovely
pieces.Is there a general lack of attention paid to teaching glaze
application?. . if anybody knows anybody doing workshops that pay attention
to surface treatment and glaze application please please..... let us know.
thanks
Bev
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Ivor and Olive Lewis on mon 19 dec 05
Dear Bev Lev,=20
Assuming that there are no workshops convenient to your location I =
suggest you try to lay your hands on a copy of Greg Daly's Book, "Glazes =
and Glazing Techniques" ISBN 0- 86417-502-7.
This book was written some time after a two week workshop given by Greg =
at Macgregor Summer School at the University of South Queensland in =
1991. It illustrates and augments many of the things Greg taught us =
during that period of time and covers all areas of decoration.
And since glaze exploitation can depend to a great extent on the way the =
clay has been treated after the pot has been made but before it is fired =
dig into the book by F. Carlton Ball and Janice Lovoos, "Making Pottery =
without a Wheel. Texture and Form in Clay". ISBN 0-442-20541-4. Though =
dated (1965) it is an ideal primmer and well worth using if you are =
prepared to extend your imagination and apply the ideas to any clay =
surface, wheel thrown or hand modelled.
Best regards,
Ivor Lewis.
Redhill,
South Australia.
=20
Rikki Gill on wed 21 dec 05
There will be one in Sunnyvale Ca in April at Mother Earth Clay Art Center,
presented by the Potters Council. I will be a presenter, and will be
focusing on surface secoration as will others. Potters Council will be
publicizing this shortly.
Hope some of you will attend.
Rikki Gill
www.rikkigillceramics.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "L. P. Skeen"
To:
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: on glaze application - call for help
> Seems to me I read in the POtters Pages that there will be a couple of
> surface treatment workshops this year, but I could be wrong. Check the
> ACERS website for that.
>
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