Paula on wed 21 dec 05
Hi all - I'm new to this group and had a question regarding kilns.
I'm looking to buy one for a home studio and was wondering if anyone
had any opinions on either the L&L or the Olympic brands. I'm looking
at the L&L Easy Fire Digital e23t or e23s, or the Olympic 2323. Any
ideas and advice are most appreciated. Thanks!
Mark Tigges on wed 21 dec 05
On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 04:31:43PM +0000, Paula wrote:
> Hi all - I'm new to this group and had a question regarding kilns.
> I'm looking to buy one for a home studio and was wondering if anyone
> had any opinions on either the L&L or the Olympic brands. I'm looking
> at the L&L Easy Fire Digital e23t or e23s, or the Olympic 2323. Any
> ideas and advice are most appreciated. Thanks!
>
I have the Olympic, have had for 15 years, and it's over 30 years
old. (It's not exactly the same kiln, but the analogous product they
manufactured at the time.) Obviously it's been reliable. But, that
said, my choice of the three would be the e23t. No question. I like
the element holders very much. and the e23s seems to have only 2.5"
of brick. Insufficient in my opinion. But that somewhat depends on
what cone you wish to fire it to, but really, thicker is better
in this case, regardless.
Mark.
Steve Slatin on wed 21 dec 05
Paula --
I have no experience with the Olympic brand, but read the archives for
a sense of their issues.
I have an e23t and am extremely happy with it. I got it for the element
holders, thinking that sooner or later I'd change elements and the
holders would make it easier (I've changed or helped change elements
on a few kilns many years ago, I knew that difference). I found the
element holders also appear to make the elements last longer; there's
almost no change in my firing times after a year and a half of extremely
steady use.
The controller took just a few tries to get comfortable with. The
pre-programmed firings are OK for what they are (fast and slow bisque
and glaze firings); I suspect you'll soon go beyond that into your own
programs.
The kiln is sturdy, well assembled, and I believe if it's well cared for
it'll last indefinitely.
Regards -- Steve Slatin
Paula wrote: Hi all - I'm new to this group and had a question regarding kilns.
I'm looking to buy one for a home studio and was wondering if anyone
had any opinions on either the L&L or the Olympic brands. I'm looking
at the L&L Easy Fire Digital e23t or e23s, or the Olympic 2323.
Steve Slatin --
And I've seen it all, I've seen it all
Through the yellow windows of the evening train...
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Vince Pitelka on wed 21 dec 05
Paula -
We are slowly moving towards an all-L&L shop in our electric kilns. We have
two Easy-Fire programmable e23T toploaders and one older J230 toploader with
a kiln sitter, and are about to receive a Easy Fire toploader and a big new
L&L frontloader. When I was hired at the Craft Center twelve years ago we
had two of the older J230s with kiln sitters that dated back to when our
facility opened in 1980. The J230 we still have is one of those kilns, and
it is still going strong. Personally, I cannot say enough good things about
L&L kilns. I especially like the refractory element holders.
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft, Tennessee Technological University
Smithville TN 37166, 615/597-6801 x111
vpitelka@dtccom.net, wpitelka@tntech.edu
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
http://www.tntech.edu/craftcenter/
louroess2210 on wed 21 dec 05
I'm looking
> at the L&L Easy Fire Digital e23t or e23s, or the Olympic 2323. Any
> ideas and advice are most appreciated. Thanks!
>
Paula, I have the L&L short kiln, which is much easier for me to
load (I'm just about 5 feet tall)
I have been very happy with the kiln and also with the tech support
I've gotten from L&L. Robert has walked me through a lot of stuff
that was in the owner's manual but still a mystery to me just because
I am not so inclined, not because it was wasn't written well. After I
had done it and re read the directions I could see how easy it was.
The only real experience I've had with Olympic was a big kiln at a
school I went to years ago that arrived damaged, never did work
right and no one could seem to fix it. Just one instance, I know,
but...
You can't go wrong with an L&L.
Lou in Colorado
Elizabeth Priddy on wed 21 dec 05
For what it's worth:
I have bought 3 L&L kilns and had 3 apprentices buy
the same models and I have never had a problem
with either the 3 knob or the digital and have heard
of no problems from the others I steered that way.
Tech support has been excellent, and only needed
to get help with programming the digital controller.
The element holders are the best thing about them.
Other kilns are like that now but the 15 year old kiln
that still works perfectly had them to begin with.
The smaller J18 comes apart and can fit in the backseat
of a honda civic. And did on several occassions of
moving.
I find it meaningful that L&L started out as an industrial
furnace company and some other manufacturers got
their start with hobby kilns.
Don't work for L&L, no experience with Olympic.
EP
Elizabeth Priddy
Beaufort, NC - USA
http://www.elizabethpriddy.com
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Joe and Lisa Troncale on thu 22 dec 05
I have an L&L and it works very well. I have had it for about 10 years. No
problems with the kiln.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Tigges"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: L&L versus Olympic Kilns?
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 04:31:43PM +0000, Paula wrote:
>> Hi all - I'm new to this group and had a question regarding kilns.
>> I'm looking to buy one for a home studio and was wondering if anyone
>> had any opinions on either the L&L or the Olympic brands. I'm looking
>> at the L&L Easy Fire Digital e23t or e23s, or the Olympic 2323. Any
>> ideas and advice are most appreciated. Thanks!
>>
>
> I have the Olympic, have had for 15 years, and it's over 30 years
> old. (It's not exactly the same kiln, but the analogous product they
> manufactured at the time.) Obviously it's been reliable. But, that
> said, my choice of the three would be the e23t. No question. I like
> the element holders very much. and the e23s seems to have only 2.5"
> of brick. Insufficient in my opinion. But that somewhat depends on
> what cone you wish to fire it to, but really, thicker is better
> in this case, regardless.
>
> Mark.
>
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Jean Cochran on fri 23 dec 05
Dear Paula,
I, personally, would not buy one fire brick from Olympic. You may wish to
check the archives for remarks from various clay folks on this subject.
Jean Wadsworth Cochran
www.foxhollowpottery.com
www.kycraft.ky.gov/craftcgi-bin/index.cgi?busid=186
..... if anyone had any opinions on either the L&L or the Olympic brands.
I'm looking at the L&L Easy Fire Digital e23t or e23s, or the Olympic
2323.....
Donna Kat on tue 27 dec 05
I have the L&L E28S and think it is perfect. It has almost the same
volume as the E23t but is much, much easier to load and allows me to make
wide bird baths or wall hangings which won't fit in the E23s/t. At the
arts studio, I have helped out at, they have Scutts which are fine but I
like the L&L far more.
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 16:31:43 -0000, Paula wrote:
>I'm looking to buy one for a home studio and was wondering if anyone
>had any opinions on either the L&L or the Olympic brands. I'm looking
>at the L&L Easy Fire Digital e23t or e23s, or the Olympic 2323. Any
>ideas and advice are most appreciated. Thanks!
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