Bruce Davis on thu 22 dec 05
Back when I was engineering I saw an article about a rural Chinese methane
generator that was a combination of a septic tank and a composter. They had
a septic tank half buried in the ground that was used for human waste. It
also had a chute that they used to dispose of organic refuse from farming and
household garbage as well as animal waste. All of the methane gas which was
spontaneously generated in the tank went through a water trap into an
accumulator where is was a piped to gas lanterns and a cooking stove. It was a
fairly simple energy source and I suppose it could be harnessed for use by
potters as well if you could get a sufficient volume of gas.
Best regards,
Bruce Davis, Mud Run Pottery
Gulfport MS
_http://bdavis6129.blogspot.com/_ (http://bdavis6129.blogspot.com/)
bdavis6129@aol.com
Gayle Bair on thu 22 dec 05
Bruce,
It's done here too
see:
http://www.threemilecanyonfarms.com/our_products/methane_based_green_fuel.ht
ml
http://www.freeenergynews.com/Directory/Waste2Energy/
Gayle Bair
Bainbridge Island, WA
Tucson, AZ
www.claybair.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Bruce Davis
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 4:30 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: methane gas
Back when I was engineering I saw an article about a rural Chinese methane
generator that was a combination of a septic tank and a composter. They
hada septic tank half buried in the ground that was used for human waste.
It
also had a chute that they used to dispose of organic refuse from farming
and
household garbage as well as animal waste
pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on thu 22 dec 05
I Bruce, all...
I just realized, reading your post here, that all these years, on top of my
building, is a four-inch Cast Iron vent pipe, which constantly is sighing
methane.
Now, If I had ( or would now even ) make some simple contrivance to collect
it...
I could do something with it...
Anyone on city water, city sewers rather, has similar vent pipes, some of
which might just be good perennial gassers of constant methane.
Since I have been on the roof lately working up there, I became aware of
this Pipe...otherwise, I knew of it only in the side of my thoughts, and
never noticed it's constant odor of Sewer Gas wafting out of it.
Phil
Las Vegas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Davis"
> Back when I was engineering I saw an article about a rural Chinese
methane
> generator that was a combination of a septic tank and a composter. They
had
> a septic tank half buried in the ground that was used for human waste.
It
> also had a chute that they used to dispose of organic refuse from
farming and
> household garbage as well as animal waste. All of the methane gas which
was
> spontaneously generated in the tank went through a water trap into an
> accumulator where is was a piped to gas lanterns and a cooking stove.
It was a
> fairly simple energy source and I suppose it could be harnessed for use
by
> potters as well if you could get a sufficient volume of gas.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Bruce Davis, Mud Run Pottery
Cheryl Weickert on fri 23 dec 05
Phil, every house with a septic system has those gas vent pipes to let the
methane gas out, not just those with city water or sewers. Also if you
have drains that don't have water in the u part it will let the gasses out
into your house. So actually we all could have our own energy supply.
Who ever came up with the way to do so safely would be a very rich man!
Some friends of ours had a wood log home built and when the logs settled
it crimped the vent pipe so when the toilet down stairs was flushed the
gasses needed somewhere to go and burped in the upstairs toilet... wasn't
much fun if you were sitting on the upstairs toilet when it burped!
Pinky in MN, it feels like spring today, close to 40 degrees.
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 11:01:00 -0800, pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET wrote:
>I Bruce, all...
>
>
>I just realized, reading your post here, that all these years, on top of
my
>building, is a four-inch Cast Iron vent pipe, which constantly is sighing
>methane.
>
>Now, If I had ( or would now even ) make some simple contrivance to
collect
>it...
>
>I could do something with it...
>
>Anyone on city water, city sewers rather, has similar vent pipes, some of
>which might just be good perennial gassers of constant methane.
Frank Colson on fri 23 dec 05
Keep in mind that trapping bio-gas from any source, must be oxygen free in
order to be put to any useful purpose!
Frank Colson
www.2D2u.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cheryl Weickert"
To:
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: methane gas
> Phil, every house with a septic system has those gas vent pipes to let the
> methane gas out, not just those with city water or sewers. Also if you
> have drains that don't have water in the u part it will let the gasses out
> into your house. So actually we all could have our own energy supply.
> Who ever came up with the way to do so safely would be a very rich man!
>
> Some friends of ours had a wood log home built and when the logs settled
> it crimped the vent pipe so when the toilet down stairs was flushed the
> gasses needed somewhere to go and burped in the upstairs toilet... wasn't
> much fun if you were sitting on the upstairs toilet when it burped!
>
> Pinky in MN, it feels like spring today, close to 40 degrees.
>
> On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 11:01:00 -0800, pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET wrote:
>
> >I Bruce, all...
> >
> >
> >I just realized, reading your post here, that all these years, on top of
> my
> >building, is a four-inch Cast Iron vent pipe, which constantly is sighing
> >methane.
> >
> >Now, If I had ( or would now even ) make some simple contrivance to
> collect
> >it...
> >
> >I could do something with it...
> >
> >Anyone on city water, city sewers rather, has similar vent pipes, some of
> >which might just be good perennial gassers of constant methane.
>
>
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Frank Colson on fri 23 dec 05
Phil- Methane gas has no odor. It is the bio-materials from which it is
generated , that give it odor. Natural gas, also, has no odor, but the
slight input of dead rats, is infused in the line, which makes it
identifiable.
If you cap off your vent pipe with an airtight flexible catch bag; i.e.
truck inner tube, etc., place a valve, and an air compressor, on the catch
bag, you are now accessing a free fuel source. Don't light a sparkler to
celebrate or you might be going into orbit!
Frank Colson
www.R2D2u.com
----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: methane gas
> I Bruce, all...
>
>
> I just realized, reading your post here, that all these years, on top of
my
> building, is a four-inch Cast Iron vent pipe, which constantly is sighing
> methane.
>
> Now, If I had ( or would now even ) make some simple contrivance to
collect
> it...
>
> I could do something with it...
>
> Anyone on city water, city sewers rather, has similar vent pipes, some of
> which might just be good perennial gassers of constant methane.
>
> Since I have been on the roof lately working up there, I became aware of
> this Pipe...otherwise, I knew of it only in the side of my thoughts, and
> never noticed it's constant odor of Sewer Gas wafting out of it.
>
>
> Phil
> Las Vegas
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce Davis"
>
> > Back when I was engineering I saw an article about a rural Chinese
> methane
> > generator that was a combination of a septic tank and a composter.
They
> had
> > a septic tank half buried in the ground that was used for human waste.
> It
> > also had a chute that they used to dispose of organic refuse from
> farming and
> > household garbage as well as animal waste. All of the methane gas
which
> was
> > spontaneously generated in the tank went through a water trap into an
> > accumulator where is was a piped to gas lanterns and a cooking stove.
> It was a
> > fairly simple energy source and I suppose it could be harnessed for use
> by
> > potters as well if you could get a sufficient volume of gas.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Bruce Davis, Mud Run Pottery
>
>
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Frank Colson on fri 23 dec 05
Bruce- Didn't "Katrina" create an ample supply of organic materials in Gulf
Port? What an opportunity for a person with your background and
understanding of bio-gas!
Frank Colson
www.R2D2u.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Davis"
To:
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 6:29 AM
Subject: methane gas
> Back when I was engineering I saw an article about a rural Chinese
methane
> generator that was a combination of a septic tank and a composter. They
had
> a septic tank half buried in the ground that was used for human waste.
It
> also had a chute that they used to dispose of organic refuse from
farming and
> household garbage as well as animal waste. All of the methane gas which
was
> spontaneously generated in the tank went through a water trap into an
> accumulator where is was a piped to gas lanterns and a cooking stove.
It was a
> fairly simple energy source and I suppose it could be harnessed for use
by
> potters as well if you could get a sufficient volume of gas.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Bruce Davis, Mud Run Pottery
> Gulfport MS
> _http://bdavis6129.blogspot.com/_ (http://bdavis6129.blogspot.com/)
> bdavis6129@aol.com
>
>
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