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clay directly over steel armature

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Scott Bennett on fri 6 jan 06


I have a student who insists on building clay forms directly over steel
armatures. He of course experiences his fair share of cracking. I have thought of
intruducing paper pulp to his clay, as well as nylon fiber. Does anyone have
any suggestions.

scott bennett,
Red Dot Gallery

marianne kuiper milks on fri 6 jan 06


Hi.
Address your post to Lori Leary, or perhaps she will see this posting.
Last year there was an art major (metals/mixed media) who came to our studio at Marywood University, Scranton, PA , Matt Povse's program. The MFA student came in just for the semester to do exactly that. He also had problems (of course..there's this uneven shrinkage problem) but resolved much throughout the semester, partly by changing his goal/expectations. Don't remember his name but am sure Lori would. I can see his face but that doesn't help you at all...
If this or other suggestions do not help, email me directly and I will get in touch with Mat Povse.

Marianne Kuiper Milks
revelstone pottery,
honesdale, pa 18431

Scott Bennett wrote: I have a student who insists on building clay forms directly over steel
armatures. He of course experiences his fair share of cracking. I have thought of
intruducing paper pulp to his clay, as well as nylon fiber. Does anyone have
any suggestions.

scott bennett,
Red Dot Gallery

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Bruce Girrell on fri 6 jan 06


> I have a student who insists on building clay forms
> directly over steel armatures. He of course experiences
> his fair share of cracking.

Why not let the student learn? - what he is doing is not a good idea

OTOH, what you suggest sounds like one good approach - strengthening the
clay. Another approach might be to "soften" the steel. If you used, say, a
set of coathanger wires twisted together instead of a single, thicker piece
of steel, I would think that you would also see less cracking.

Bruce "just guessing" Girrell

Debbie on fri 6 jan 06


I often use armatures (though never steel as it rust) in clay, it's not a
problem with some forethought. Metal armatures are great if the form demands
support and the intent is to use the piece as a model from which to make a
mold so there is no intent to keep and/or fire it.

Fire-able armatures are what ever is safely combustible with some squish
factor. My favorite are strips of cardboard (softened by bending and
folding). These can be wrapped in crumbled newspaper for added bulk and
"swish" room or wrapped in masking tape if a little extra stiffness is
needed. Takes a bit of experimenting to know what you can get away with.
After that is works great.

Best Wishes, Debbie


> Subject: Re: clay directly over steel armature
>
>
> > I have a student who insists on building clay forms
> > directly over steel armatures. He of course experiences
> > his fair share of cracking.
>
> Why not let the student learn? - what he is doing is not a good idea
>
> OTOH, what you suggest sounds like one good approach - strengthening the
> clay. Another approach might be to "soften" the steel. If you used, say, a
> set of coathanger wires twisted together instead of a single,
> thicker piece
> of steel, I would think that you would also see less cracking.
>
> Bruce "just guessing" Girrell
> >