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performance art or vandalism? : was: the fountain vandalised

updated mon 9 jan 06

 

BJ Clark | Stinking Desert Ceramics on sun 8 jan 06


Lee,
Not trying to inject an opinion, but I thought it was interesting that in
1995, Brian Eno collected some of his urine and used plastic tubing to
splash it onto Fountain even though the work was displayed behind glass at
the MoMA. (link ) So
it's not like this is the newest idea ever.
BJ Clark


On 1/7/06, Lee Love wrote:
>
> Hehe. Performance art, vandalism, urinal? I guess it is in the eye of
> the beholder:
>
> http://painting.about.com/b/a/233531.htm
>
> January 07, 2006
>
> Performance Art or Vandalism?
> Pierre Pinoncelli, a 77-year-old Frenchman, has been arrested for taking
> a hammer to Marcel Duchamp's famous urinal, /The Fountain/, one of the
> pieces which established Conceptual Art. According to news reports, he
> told the police it was a piece of performance art Duchamp would've
> enjoyed.
>
> also:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/07/arts/design/07duch.html?hp
>
> Conceptual Artist as Vandal: Walk Tall and Carry a Little Hammer (or Ax)
> By ALAN RIDING
> Published: January 7, 2006
>
> PARIS, Jan. 6 - The Dada movement made its name in the early 20th
> century by trying to destroy the conventional notion of art. Taking
> literal inspiration from their exploits this week, a latter-day
> neo-Dadaist took a small hammer to Marcel Duchamp's "Fountain," the
> factory-made urinal that is considered the cornerstone of Conceptual Art.
> --
> Lee Love
> in Mashiko, Japan http://mashiko.org
> http://seisokuro.blogspot.com/ My Photo Logs
>
> "Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication."
>
> --Leonardo da Vinci
>
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Lee Love on mon 9 jan 06


On 2006/01/09 4:22:29, stinkingdesert@gmail.com wrote:

> Not trying to inject an opinion, but I thought it was interesting
that in
> 1995, Brian Eno collected some of his urine and used plastic tubing to
> splash it onto Fountain even though the work was displayed behind glass
> at the MoMA. (link ) So it's not like this is the newest idea ever.

Eno stoled this from Pinocelli:

"Mr. Pinoncelli, 77, who urinated into the same urinal and struck it
with a hammer in a show in Nīmes in 1993,"

Pinocelli spent a month in jail and paid a hefty fine too. (After the
first toilet attack, he was jailed for a month and fined the equivalent
of $37,500.)

It is amusing isn't it? If you say "anything" is
art, that includes destroying what you call art, in the name of art.
It is hypocracy otherwise.

And don't worry about Duchamp's toilets. He made and
signed 8 copies. What they are doing for the current exhibition is
just replacing the damaged one with one of the other 7.
Michelangelo's Pieta it ain't ;-)

--
Lee Love
in Mashiko, Japan http://mashiko.org
http://seisokuro.blogspot.com/ My Photo Logs

"Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication."

--Leonardo da Vinci