Chris Schafale on tue 10 jan 06
Tom,
I'm pretty sure what is happening is that you get a message only when you
have posted to the list. Her email filter is interpreting your message on
the list as a message sent to her, and thus triggering the spam filter. If
you only read Clayart and don't post, then you would not have gotten any of
the messages. I've gotten one for every time I've posted recently.
Chris
At 09:53 AM 01/14/2006, you wrote:
>I wasn't going to post on this...but after Belinda's post calling Julie...it
>may be apropos. This could be a phishing email since it's not consistently
>being applied, some are getting it, some not.
>Maybe one of us who knows about how to read the addresses could inform us.
>It would be easy for a program to pick a website off the internet, turn it
>into an apparent address, get you to click on the "approval address" which
>has nothing to do with anyone real or their computer, just to get your
>computers address which is then a known, live address.
>all the weird eBay and papal messages of late are similar scams...just don't
>answer them. Please, if you haven't, spend a few minutes educating yourself
>on phishing. It's as important to your security as your antivirus, firewall
>and antispyware (you are using all three of these aren't you?).
>Here's a test you can take to test yourself...it's fun and informative.
>http://survey.mailfrontier.com/survey/quiztest.cgi?themailfrontierphishingiqtest
>
>Tom Wirt
>Hutchinson, MN
>twirt@hutchtel.net
>www.claycoyote.com
>
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Elizabeth Priddy on thu 12 jan 06
I hate to be like this but...
I sorta do. If you are sending something to thousands of people,
and you haven't fully investigated it....well, you deserve what you
get. I have been getting that dumb message for over a month.
I defy anyone to tell me that they were unaware of it for a full
thirty days. Somebady wrote them about it. I just know it.
And if they were, just in that unlikely case, then they are to
blame for that too.
This is abuse of the privilege of using the internet.
And it may even be a damn sock puppet someone set up to
troll with and they just left it there with no person behind it.
There is no explanation other than the death of hte owner with
no instructions to family to close their email accounts that is
acceptable.
Mary White wrote:
I don't think jharris should be flamed for not knowing these things
before activating Spamarrest. But I think Spamarrest should be more
forceful about telling new users they better clear any mailing lists
they belong to before they activate it.
--
Mary White
on the Sunshine Coast, BC, Canada
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Mary White on fri 13 jan 06
Well, oddly enough, I only received the one message earlier this
week. So has everyone but me been receiving these things for over a
month? Nothing's been mentioned on Clayart that I recall.
Mary White
on the Sunshine Coast, BC, Canada
>I hate to be like this but...
>
> I sorta do. If you are sending something to thousands of people,
> and you haven't fully investigated it....well, you deserve what you
> get. I have been getting that dumb message for over a month.
>
> I defy anyone to tell me that they were unaware of it for a full
> thirty days. Somebady wrote them about it. I just know it.
>
> And if they were, just in that unlikely case, then they are to
> blame for that too.
>
> This is abuse of the privilege of using the internet.
>
> And it may even be a damn sock puppet someone set up to
> troll with and they just left it there with no person behind it.
>
> There is no explanation other than the death of hte owner with
> no instructions to family to close their email accounts that is
> acceptable.
>
>Mary White wrote:
>
>
>I don't think jharris should be flamed for not knowing these things
>before activating Spamarrest. But I think Spamarrest should be more
>forceful about telling new users they better clear any mailing lists
>they belong to before they activate it.
>
>
>--
>
>Mary White
>on the Sunshine Coast, BC, Canada
>
>______________________________________________________________________________
>Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
>You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
>settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>
>Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
>melpots@pclink.com.
>
>
>
>
>Elizabeth Priddy
>
>Beaufort, NC - USA
>http://www.elizabethpriddy.com
>
>---------------------------------
>Yahoo! Photos
> Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events,
>holidays, whatever.
>
>______________________________________________________________________________
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>
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Elizabeth Priddy on fri 13 jan 06
I wish I could show you the proof. But I empty my trash
folder (of over fifty or so bits a day) each day automaticly.
I post a lot. I only got them when I had recently posted.
I regretted saying that only if they had died and left the
account running with no one knowing about it. That circ
could actually occur and so I am sorry for saying that.
But otherwise, I stand by what I said.
E
Mary White wrote:
Well, oddly enough, I only received the one message earlier this
week. So has everyone but me been receiving these things for over a
month? Nothing's been mentioned on Clayart that I recall.
Mary White
on the Sunshine Coast, BC, Canada
>I hate to be like this but...
>
> I sorta do. If you are sending something to thousands of people,
> and you haven't fully investigated it....well, you deserve what you
> get. I have been getting that dumb message for over a month.
>
> I defy anyone to tell me that they were unaware of it for a full
> thirty days. Somebady wrote them about it. I just know it.
>
> And if they were, just in that unlikely case, then they are to
> blame for that too.
>
> This is abuse of the privilege of using the internet.
>
> And it may even be a damn sock puppet someone set up to
> troll with and they just left it there with no person behind it.
>
> There is no explanation other than the death of hte owner with
> no instructions to family to close their email accounts that is
> acceptable.
>
>Mary White wrote:
>
>
>I don't think jharris should be flamed for not knowing these things
>before activating Spamarrest. But I think Spamarrest should be more
>forceful about telling new users they better clear any mailing lists
>they belong to before they activate it.
>
>
>--
>
>Mary White
>on the Sunshine Coast, BC, Canada
>
>______________________________________________________________________________
>Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
>You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
>settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>
>Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
>melpots@pclink.com.
>
>
>
>
>Elizabeth Priddy
>
>Beaufort, NC - USA
>http://www.elizabethpriddy.com
>
>---------------------------------
>Yahoo! Photos
> Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events,
>holidays, whatever.
>
>______________________________________________________________________________
>Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
>You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
>settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>
>Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
>melpots@pclink.com.
--
Mary White
HARBOUR PUBLISHING
Box 219
Madeira Park, BC
V0N 2H0
------------------
For current news and complete book & author information, visit our
website, http://www.harbourpublishing.com.
______________________________________________________________________________
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Elizabeth Priddy
Beaufort, NC - USA
http://www.elizabethpriddy.com
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Richard Aerni on fri 13 jan 06
I don't get any of these messages that everyone is referring to in such
annoyed tones. Why is that? Well, I'm not an actual "member" of clayart.
I go to the archives and read the postings there. It's quite easy to post
from the archives if I wish to reply to something. I don't have to delete
since there are no email messages to delete. I simply click on those
messages I wish to read...quite simple.
Not wishing to skew statistics by depressing the membership, but that is the
easiest and most hassle-free way to use clayart.
Best,
Richard Aerni
Rochester, NY
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 13:45:28 -0800, Elizabeth Priddy
wrote:
>I wish I could show you the proof. But I empty my trash
> folder (of over fifty or so bits a day) each day automaticly.
>
> I post a lot. I only got them when I had recently posted.
>
Bill Paxton on sat 14 jan 06
I haven't received even one.
Let's drop the subject.
Please
Bill Paxton on sat 14 jan 06
EP
Get a grip
It's not the end of the world.
Maybe you ought to check your filter settings as compared to the settings
of the "index" version of clayart?
Tom at Hutchtel.net on sat 14 jan 06
I wasn't going to post on this...but after Belinda's post calling Julie...it
may be apropos. This could be a phishing email since it's not consistently
being applied, some are getting it, some not.
Maybe one of us who knows about how to read the addresses could inform us.
It would be easy for a program to pick a website off the internet, turn it
into an apparent address, get you to click on the "approval address" which
has nothing to do with anyone real or their computer, just to get your
computers address which is then a known, live address.
all the weird eBay and papal messages of late are similar scams...just don't
answer them. Please, if you haven't, spend a few minutes educating yourself
on phishing. It's as important to your security as your antivirus, firewall
and antispyware (you are using all three of these aren't you?).
Here's a test you can take to test yourself...it's fun and informative.
http://survey.mailfrontier.com/survey/quiztest.cgi?themailfrontierphishingiqtest
Tom Wirt
Hutchinson, MN
twirt@hutchtel.net
www.claycoyote.com
Bruce Lucas on sat 14 jan 06
Tom at Hutchtel.net wrote:
> I wasn't going to post on this...but after Belinda's post calling
> Julie...it
> may be apropos. This could be a phishing email since it's not
> consistently
> being applied, some are getting it, some not.
> Maybe one of us who knows about how to read the addresses could
> inform us.
I've gotten it every time I've posted recently. You're right to be
suspicious, but (as a computer professional) this looks genuine to me.
The website it takes you to is really the spamarrest website, and it
doesn't ask you for any personal information, and the information that
it contains about my posting e-mail seems genuine and derived from my
e-mail, not the clayart archives. Nevertheless, just on general
principal, I haven't responded. Spamarrest, while being a genuine
service, has been rightly criticized for marketing (read, spamming)
their service to the e-mail addresses of people who responded to their
spam-stopping challenges.
I think probably it's just a case of poor jharrisglassart thinking she
stopped using spamarrest but either through her innocent error or
spamarrest's negligent error they still think she is using their service.
> It would be easy for a program to pick a website off the internet,
> turn it
> into an apparent address, get you to click on the "approval address"
> which
> has nothing to do with anyone real or their computer, just to get your
> computers address which is then a known, live address.
> all the weird eBay and papal messages of late are similar scams
I could be mistaken, but I think the typical eBay and Paypal phishing
scams are much more nefarious than e-mail address harvesting. They
(meaning third parties masquerading as eBay and Paypal, /not/ eBay and
Paypal themselves) typically are trying to collect personal information
for purposes such as credit-card fraud and identity theft. Beware!
Bruce Lucas
Des & Jan Howard on sun 15 jan 06
Tom
I marked all the emails as frauds without even reading them.
I got 70% correct.
Des
Tom at Hutchtel.net wrote:
> Here's a test you can take to test yourself...it's fun and informative.
> http://survey.mailfrontier.com/survey/quiztest.cgi?themailfrontierphishingiqtest
>
--
Des & Jan Howard
Lue Pottery
LUE NSW 2850
Australia
Ph/Fax 02 6373 6419
http://www.luepottery.hwy.com.au
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