Edouard Bastarache Inc. on mon 16 jan 06
Vince,
it sounds better.
"Ils sont fous ces quebecois"
"They are insane these quebekers"
"Están locos estos quebequeses"
Edouard Bastarache
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Vince Pitelka"
To:
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: vinegar, hands, throwing
>I wrote:
>> In my experience, the
>> worst thing for the skin is long exposure to a slightly alkaline
>> environment, because it washes away all the natural oils in the clay and
>> leads to severe dry skin.
>
> What I MEANT to say was "It washes away all the natural oils in your skin
> .
> . "
> - Vince
>
> Vince Pitelka
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Richard Aerni on mon 16 jan 06
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 07:56:45 -0800, Elizabeth Priddy
wrote:
>How do your hand feel after being in contact with that
> much acid for a whole evening?
Elizabeth,
I'm sure this has much to do with the concentration of the vinegar in the
throwing water, but I have a friend who practices Chinese medicine on the
East Coast who has recommended to me after a long day in the studio that I
soak my hands in a dilute solution of apple cider vinegar and water.
Something about improving the ph balance of my skin, since so much of what
sloughs off of the clay in our throwing water makes things very basic,
chemically speaking. She says this will keep my skin from drying out so
much and help eliminate all of that painful cracking that happens,
particularly in the winter.
I can't speak to the efficacy of this treatment, because I've never been
able to keep a bucket of the stuff around for long enough to make any
meaningful observation, nor have I been able to sit with my hands in it for
any length of time at the end of the day, when I'm usually running late and
have a family at home waiting for dinner.
Best,
Richard Aerni
Rochester, NY
Chris Schafale on mon 16 jan 06
Even just a quick rinse with cider vinegar can make your hands feel much
better after a day in clay and especially glaze. I keep a "soap pump"
dispenser by the sink with vinegar in it, squirt a little on my hands, rub
it in, then immediately rinse off. It really makes a difference.
At 05:03 PM 01/16/2006, you wrote:
>On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 07:56:45 -0800, Elizabeth Priddy
>wrote:
>
> >How do your hand feel after being in contact with that
> > much acid for a whole evening?
>
>Elizabeth,
>I'm sure this has much to do with the concentration of the vinegar in the
>throwing water, but I have a friend who practices Chinese medicine on the
>East Coast who has recommended to me after a long day in the studio that I
>soak my hands in a dilute solution of apple cider vinegar and water.
Vince Pitelka on mon 16 jan 06
>>How do your hand feel after being in contact with that
>> much acid for a whole evening?
Elizabeth -
I don't know about the concentrations of vinegar in that original post, but
I have found that a little vinegar in my throwing water is very kind to my
skin. It increases the plasticity and bonding tenacity of the clay, but it
also helps prevent the skin from getting very dry. In my experience, the
worst thing for the skin is long exposure to a slightly alkaline
environment, because it washes away all the natural oils in the clay and
leads to severe dry skin. At one time, I used a midrange claybody that was
fluxed with a lot of nepheline syenite, and it tended to deflocculate itself
over time. If I didn't re-flocculate it with epsom salts or vinegar, it
would be very troublesome in its performance, but it would also completely
wreck my skin, causing extreme drying, leading to cracking and soreness.
Once the clay was re-flocculated, the skin problems were severely reduced.
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft, Tennessee Technological University
Smithville TN 37166, 615/597-6801 x111
vpitelka@dtccom.net, wpitelka@tntech.edu
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
http://www.tntech.edu/craftcenter/
Vince Pitelka on mon 16 jan 06
I wrote:
> In my experience, the
> worst thing for the skin is long exposure to a slightly alkaline
> environment, because it washes away all the natural oils in the clay and
> leads to severe dry skin.
What I MEANT to say was "It washes away all the natural oils in your skin .
. "
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft, Tennessee Technological University
Smithville TN 37166, 615/597-6801 x111
vpitelka@dtccom.net, wpitelka@tntech.edu
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
http://www.tntech.edu/craftcenter/
Elizabeth Priddy on tue 17 jan 06
I am willing to try it. I have been accused
of looking too young because of a long life
with a history of burning in about ten minutes
and consequently staying out of the sun.
I can still pass for early 20's in the right light
and especially with a baby accessory! It's actually
an aggravation, as I have to "prove" my years of
experience from time to time.
(yes, I live at the beach. It's where the husband's
marine lab IT job is, so it goes. SPF 40 is new,
in the old days, it was a hat or indoors, kiddies)
But the only place on me that really shows my
age is my hands. I wish I knew this vinegar trick
a long time ago. The backs of my hands look
perpetually "dried out" if you understand what I
mean. Even after a cocoa butter rub, the skin
looks a little scaly on the backs of my hands.
I am wondering if a vinegar rub would fix it over time.
This is completely counter-intuitive to me. But I
trust the folks that have posted on it.
And it jibes up with acid peels for facial "rejuvenation".
E
Elizabeth Priddy
Beaufort, NC - USA
http://www.elizabethpriddy.com
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Ivor and Olive Lewis on wed 18 jan 06
Dear Friends,=20
I think if you do some research you will find Cider Vinegar is not a =
simple solution of Acetic acid prepared from Ethyl Alcohol derived from =
Beer and Wine and mixed with water but that it also contains Malic Acid =
and possibly Citric Acid. Frequent full page advertisements for books =
claiming Cider vinegar to be a "cure all" appear in daily and Sunday =
newspapers.=20
Perhaps we should be asking the Dermatologists to explain to us what is =
happening when we keep our hands immersed in wet stuff for hours on end =
and what Cider vinegar does for us.
Best regards,
Ivor Lewis.
Redhill,
South Australia.
Russel Fouts on wed 18 jan 06
>> Even just a quick rinse with cider vinegar can make your hands feel much
better after a day in clay and especially glaze. I keep a "soap pump"
dispenser by the sink with vinegar in it, squirt a little on my hands, rub
it in, then immediately rinse off. It really makes a difference. <<
And if you follow that up immediately, with an application of olive
oil (and wipe) you will find that the skin has been well prepared to
receive the oil and it will be much more effective.
You'll also have the beginnings of a nice vinegrette. ;-)
Russel
At 05:03 PM 01/16/2006, you wrote:
>On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 07:56:45 -0800, Elizabeth Priddy
>wrote:
>
> >How do your hand feel after being in contact with that
> > much acid for a whole evening?
>
>Elizabeth,
>I'm sure this has much to do with the concentration of the vinegar in the
>throwing water, but I have a friend who practices Chinese medicine on the
>East Coast who has recommended to me after a long day in the studio that I
>soak my hands in a dilute solution of apple cider vinegar and water.
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Russel Fouts on sat 21 jan 06
This is mainly for jacqui but I wanted to include the whole list.
I talked to my friend who is a pro chef, she said the following about
dry hands.
1. The bleach water that they wash/rinse their hands in probably has
too much bleach in it. You really only need a capful per gallon.
People often use a lot more.
2. The body shop Hemp Handcream works wonders
3. Cornhuskers lotion (a us product) is also great.
Hope this helps
Russel
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