Sam or Mary Yancy on tue 24 jan 06
Has anybody tried applying imitation Gold, Silver, Bronze leaf on pottery, either on biskware or dried pottery, and (or not) applied a clear glaze over it and Fired it to matruarity??? I have some thoughts on some projects to do and would like to get some clayrter's experience (if any). I don't just want to apply it over a fired to maturity surface. Always I know I will get some great advice from you experts. Sam in Daly City CA
Susan Fox Hirschmann on tue 24 jan 06
Yes, there is a gold/silverleaf tacky adhesive you can use....and I have done
it over high fired porcelain and it looks spectacular. I have found, to be
more exacting, it easier to paint on the adhesive , with think brushes, than to
use the applicator, so you will get it where you want. It needs to "set up a
bit" and become tacky before you apply the gold/silver leaf. The leaf
materials are very, very thin (kinda like working with phyllo dough) and you pick
them up with the tissue attached and try not to touch the leafing material or it
will stick to your hands. The stuff is expensive so you want to avoid as
much waste as possible.
I have also done a 3rd 022 firing with overglaze gold/silver/mother of pearl
that has some interesting effects. Just something I would not do on large
porcelain plate forms.
If you need further assistance, you can email me off list.
Good luck,
Susan
Annandale, VA
Meryl Ruth on tue 24 jan 06
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Subject: Gold, Silver, Bronze leaf on pottery???
> Has anybody tried applying imitation Gold, Silver, Bronze?
Hi Sam,
I use real gold, silver and bronze leaf after any and all firings are
completed. Once I have finished with all firings I apply metal leaf with
gold sizing which you can purchase at an art store. Very effective results.
My suggestion is to use the real thing. Metal leaf is not that expensive for
beautiful decorative results.
Look at The Potter's Guide to Ceramic Surfaces by Jo Connell. She calls this
a post-firing technique. Her instructions are very easy to follow.
Regards,
Meryl Ruth
http://www.merylruth.com
mruth1@maine.rr.com
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Debbie on tue 24 jan 06
Sure, it's a laborious process involving many layers; sizing, glue, gold
leaf, antiquing, lacquer, or variations of. Very lovely but fragile. Not
for a piece which will be handled a lot. Best Wishes, Debbie
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> Has anybody tried applying imitation Gold, Silver, Bronze leaf on
> pottery, either on biskware or dried pottery, and (or not)
> applied a clear glaze over it and Fired it to matruarity??? I
> have some thoughts on some projects to do and would like to get
> some clayrter's experience (if any). I don't just want to apply
> it over a fired to maturity surface. Always I know I will get
> some great advice from you experts. Sam in Daly City CA
> >
Marcia Selsor on tue 24 jan 06
Sam,
There was a woman on the cover of ceramics Monthly about 15 years ago
who had gold leaf inside her pots.
Bennet Bean incorporates gold leaf onto his pots as well as other
designs.
Neither fired the gold leaf.
That's all I can tell you.
Marcia Selsor
On Jan 24, 2006, at 9:04 AM, Sam or Mary Yancy wrote:
> Has anybody tried applying imitation Gold, Silver, Bronze leaf on
> pottery, either on biskware or dried pottery, and (or not) applied
> a clear glaze over it and Fired it to matruarity??? I have some
> thoughts on some projects to do and would like to get some
> clayrter's experience (if any). I don't just want to apply it over
> a fired to maturity surface. Always I know I will get some great
> advice from you experts. Sam in Daly City CA
Richard Aerni on tue 24 jan 06
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 16:05:42 -0700, Marcia Selsor wrote:
>There was a woman on the cover of ceramics Monthly about 15 years ago
>who had gold leaf inside her pots.
>Bennet Bean incorporates gold leaf onto his pots as well as other
>designs.
>Neither fired the gold leaf.
Cheryl Williams from Oregon (she might have now moved) was the woman on the
cover of CM. I was next to her at several shows and have one of her pots.
Marcia is right...the leaf was not fired.
I also have some blown glass goblets made by Randy Strong out Oakland CA,
way, which were rolled in silver and copper foil while the glass was still
hot. I'm guessing that the foil had to come through the annealing oven, so
it was at least subjected to some serious heat. The metallic foil will rub
off if you wash the goblets too hard. Cheryl's pots are not considered
functional.
I guess all you can do is to try to fire them, but I would check out the
melting point of gold, silver and copper and try not to fire anywhere near
that point.
Good luck,
Richard Aerni
Rochester, NY
IndianCreek on wed 25 jan 06
I have not tried it, but someone at the local guild did, and it did not
work. There was not much left of the gold after a ^10 firing, it had melted
and dissipated/boiled away. I think there was some dark ash residue left
behind, but do not remember that for sure.
You would probably be happier with doing a final firing with a luster at
^018 or so, or cold finishing with gold size and leaf.
Pam
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