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updated tue 14 feb 06

 

mel jacobson on mon 13 feb 06


as i said in my post, i do not have
hard evidence, but in my reading and stories
of how `china clay` got to england it seemed
that the boats/ships were the answer.

it goes back to the term`china clay`. it came
from china..and that was kaolin. so, it would
be fun to research, but that is not for me.
it is tied up in folk tale and stories.
but, that may just be the truth.
mel
from mel/minnetonka.mn.usa
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skiasonaranthropos@FSMAIL.NET on mon 13 feb 06


Hello Mel,
Thank you for the prompt reply. Despite some extensive reading on both
early European and English porcelain Ive never heard of china clay being
imported into England from China. I would be interested though if anyone
can direct me to such a reference. Certainly in articles, books and papers
the production of white ceramics in England, porcelain or otherwise, has
always been associated with the discovery of the Cornish material. There
was of course the use by Wedgwood of the American clays but this was very
short lived whilst a patent suit was in progress ... nevertheless amazingly
early for such transatlantic trade. Major museum collections give a similar
story; for those with a strong interest in the first early European
porcelain a visit to the National Porcelain Museum in Limoges, France is
strongly recommended because amongst a huge, and hugely impressive,
collection are a number of pieces by Bottger
Regards,
Antony

Rick Hamelin on mon 13 feb 06


Lordy, I must be getting old. I completely forgot that Chinese porcelain was used as ballast weight and as the base of the shipload because it would be unaffected by the salt water leaking into the ship. The silks and more delicate things would have been stacked on top of it.
Rick

--
"Many a wiser men than I hath
gone to pot." 1649

-------------- Original message --------------
From: skiasonaranthropos@FSMAIL.NET

> Hello Mel,
> Thank you for the prompt reply. Despite some extensive reading on both
> early European and English porcelain Ive never heard of china clay being
> imported into England from China. I would be interested though if anyone
> can direct me to such a reference. Certainly in articles, books and papers
> the production of white ceramics in England, porcelain or otherwise, has
> always been associated with the discovery of the Cornish material. There
> was of course the use by Wedgwood of the American clays but this was very
> short lived whilst a patent suit was in progress ... nevertheless amazingly
> early for such transatlantic trade. Major museum collections give a similar
> story; for those with a strong interest in the first early European
> porcelain a visit to the National Porcelain Museum in Limoges, France is
> strongly recommended because amongst a huge, and hugely impressive,
> collection are a number of pieces by Bottger
> Regards,
> Antony
>
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skiasonaranthropos@FSMAIL.NET on mon 13 feb 06


Hi Rick,
For some porcelain ballast that you can buy do a Google image search for
Nanking cargo
Regards,
Antony