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floating blue impersonator

updated mon 20 feb 06

 

Judy Rohrbaugh on fri 17 feb 06


Thank you Don and Steve for the info.

Don, the color of blue on your pots is what I have gotten before, only in smaller amounts floating on top of a nice reddish plum brown. I was trying to get more blue and less brown by putting it on top of the white clay. I did get more blue, but it was a duller color.
I am taking the advice of not adding more cobalt, that makes sense.
Next time I fire this I will go back and put it on the buff body, to see if I can get the plum brown/ blue color again.
And I will add more rutile when I try again on the white body. I use this base recipe with no colorants all of the time as a clear on another clay and I do trust it. It is quite stable in this form.

The refiring is interesting because that's how I stumbled on this some time ago. If the pots don't get fired hot enough it is a dull brown, refired a bit higher and I get the blues.
But I never put more than one row of pots in the kiln with this glaze, always on the bottom shelf. It is never predictable so I don't want to ever fire too many at once.
Most of the time I am fairly satisfied with what I end up with, but it is never the same thing twice.
My recipe is similar to what you posted, no neph sy, and this last batch I used 1/2 real gerstley borate and 1/2 a substitute. Last batch was all substitute, that could have changed things too, I guess.

Judy Rohrbaugh
Fine Art Stoneware
Ohio

Steve Slatin on sat 18 feb 06


Chris --

Yes, see Digital Fire website at

http://ceramic-materials.com/cermat/material/2387.html

for details and pictures.


Regards -- Steve Slatin


Chris Schafale wrote:
So, Steve talked about a rutile blue that has no cobalt. I'm familiar with
the classic cone 10 rutile blues, but is there such a thing in the cone 6
ox. universe?

Chris

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William & Susan Schran User on sat 18 feb 06


On 2/17/06 10:49 PM, "Judy Rohrbaugh" wrote:

> But I never put more than one row of pots in the kiln with this glaze, always
> on the bottom shelf. It is never predictable so I don't want to ever fire too
> many at once.

Judy - Do you place witness cones on your bottom shelf? Just wondering if
your getting better results with the floating blue because the bottom is
firing slightly cooler. Might be a good test on your next firing.


-- William "Bill" Schran
Fredericksburg, Virginia
wschran@cox.net
wschran@nvcc.edu

Judy Rohrbaugh on sat 18 feb 06


Yes, Bill, I have cones on the shelf.
My bottom shelf always gets hottest, unless I work the switches to keep it even.
I have an electic kiln with coils on the floor. About one inch up is my first shelf.
I have had my glaze go greenish also, not lately, I thought it was due to being on too thin.
My regular work is fired best at cone 6, just barely bending. I am using the same base glaze that I use as a floating blue on many of these pots, but without the colorants, just the rutile. When it is just a clear glaze it is very reliable and has a larger range of firing.
But, as soon as the cobalt and iron go into it, it's finicky and unpredictable.
I looked at some of the pictures in the CM article of floating blue. I get some of that on top of brown. I am probably not a "true" floating blue, well, unless I can get this glaze to show more blue.
But otherwise, my glaze seems to fit into a lot of the parameters that all of you discuss.

Judy Rohrbaugh
Fine Art Stoneware
Ohio

Chris Schafale on sat 18 feb 06


So, Steve talked about a rutile blue that has no cobalt. I'm familiar with
the classic cone 10 rutile blues, but is there such a thing in the cone 6
ox. universe?

Chris

Chris Schafale on sun 19 feb 06


Very cool. Thanks.

Chris

At 07:12 PM 02/18/2006, you wrote:
>Chris --
>
> Yes, see Digital Fire website at
>
> http://ceramic-materials.com/cermat/material/2387.html
>
> for details and pictures.
>
>
> Regards -- Steve Slatin
>
>
>Chris Schafale wrote:
> So, Steve talked about a rutile blue that has no cobalt. I'm familiar with
>the classic cone 10 rutile blues, but is there such a thing in the cone 6
>ox. universe?
>
>Chris
>
>Steve Slatin --
>
>In watermelon sugar the deeds were done and done again
>as my life is done in watermelon sugar.
>
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