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thumb stops and mug foots/ fat men in heels

updated mon 20 feb 06

 

David Woof on fri 17 feb 06


I and my customers agree with Mark that the thumb attachment is a nice
functioning detail. However isn't a foot ring on a mug, usually a rather
substantial form, as aestheticaly pleasing as high heels on a fat man?



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L. P. Skeen on sat 18 feb 06


depends on which fat man I reckon.......

L
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From: David Woof=20

However isn't a foot ring on a mug, usually a rather
substantial form, as aestheticaly pleasing as high heels on a fat man?

Gayle Bair on sat 18 feb 06


Youse guys are brutal my toes are getting stomped!:-)
I put foot rings on my mugs.
A previous thread last week discussed
placing filled hot ware on a cold surface e.g. granite.
I've been wondering if they prevent thermal shock.

Gayle Bair - Gonna have to get some high heeled steel toed boots for NCECA
Bainbridge Island, WA
Tucson, AZ
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-----Original Message-----
From: David Woof

I and my customers agree with Mark that the thumb attachment is a nice
functioning detail. However isn't a foot ring on a mug, usually a rather
substantial form, as aestheticaly pleasing as high heels on a fat man?

Stephani Stephenson on sat 18 feb 06


David Wrote
"I and my customers agree with Mark that the thumb attachment is a nice
functioning detail. However isn't a foot ring on a mug, usually a
rather
substantial form, as aestheticaly pleasing as high heels on a fat man?"

David

two design suggestions:

first of all, a substantial form isn't necessarily 'fat'.

maybe it is just 'substantial', or 'husky' or 'robust'

so
my suggestion is

put the husky guy in 'corks',

(which are quite robust high heeled logger boots for those who may not
be familiar with the term)

now he doesn't look so bad.




Stephani Stephenson
steph@revivaltileworks.com
http://www.revivaltileworks.com

Vince Pitelka on sat 18 feb 06


> Youse guys are brutal my toes are getting stomped!:-)
> I put foot rings on my mugs.
> A previous thread last week discussed
> placing filled hot ware on a cold surface e.g. granite.
> I've been wondering if they prevent thermal shock.

Gayle -
I think that with something as small as a mug (all things being relative)
the thermal shock issue is less of a concern. And how many people set their
mug of hot coffee on a granite surface and leave it there for any period of
time? That said, a foot ring certainly will protect the bottom of a pot
from thermal shock on a hard, cold surface. That's why I like oval
cassaroles elevated on feet around the rim - best with a continuous foot
with some arched knotches cut in it. Also, teapots with wide flat bottoms
are at risk. I have a number of very good-looking teapots with wide flat
bottoms. On the Ruggles and Rankin, the bottom center has been indented
with a light whack of the hand, and that would eliminate most of the
problem. The Mick Casson is elevated on small feet around the bottom, which
also allows the saltglaze to continue across the bottom fo the teapot. The
Jane Hamlyn just has a straight flat bottom, and I believe that thermal
shock would be an issue on a cold hard surface.

For the same reason that thermal shock is a problem, a hard, cold counter
surface will suck the heat out of the tea very quickly with a wide flat
bottom. Raised feet help keep the coffee or tea hot.
- Vince

Vince Pitelka
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Bonnie Staffel on sun 19 feb 06


I put thumb rests on all of my mugs and have for eons. My customers have
always commented positively about the addition. On top of that, I also put
a finger stop at the bottom of the handle. There have been many pots with
handles where the fourth or middle finger rests at the bottom of the handle
against the mug, so I add a similar ball of clay with a swipe or roll the
end of the handle up into a nice roll. A mug will naturally IMO get hot
after pouring the contents and this makes for more comfort. Those potters
who make rather round handles, the user has a very hard time balancing the
mug when it is filled so would think that a thumb stop would be beneficial
here.

Since the solution to have one type of design would be impossible as there
are so many hand/finger sizes you just have to wing it and make sure the
customer picks up the mug to see if it fits his/her hand comfortably. IMO
the thumb stop gives more options for the user than mugs without them.
Usually mugs are heavier than cups so the handle has to be suitable to the
weight as well as how many fingers have to be used in the negative space or
used to balance from the outside lower part of the handle.

It is good that so many potters come up with their own designs which will
succeed or fail on its own merits of function to the widest variety of
users. Back in the 50's when Russell Wright designed his "new" dinnerware,
I purchased a set but when it came to using the pieces, they failed on so
many counts it is no wonder that it didn't last. However, it gave me a
valuable lesson that function should rise above style.

Bonnie Staffel

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Kathi LeSueur on sun 19 feb 06


Heard at a show several years ago: "These are the best mugs in the
show." The speaker was not speaking about my mugs. Many have said that
to me. And, I'd gotten used to the idea that MY mugs were the best. So,
it was rather jarring to hear another potter's mugs referred to as the
"best" in the show. It didn't help that I really didn't like those mugs.
They did not feel good in MY hand!

And so, here is the heart of the matter. There are all sizes and shapes
of hands. They find all kinds of handles comfortable, some with thumb
stops, some without. The right handle is the one that feels best to the
user. It may or may not be mine. I always encourage buyers to hold the
mug as they would in use. How does it feel? If it doesn't feel good
don't buy it.

Over the years I've been making mugs I've traded with lots of other
potters. Sometimes I don't really like their mugs, but I trade anyway.
Then at home I watch which mugs are chosen by friends to drink from.
Often mugs I don't like are chosen over and over by the same friend to
drink from. They think of it as their mug when they come over. It feels
right in their hand. In the end, that's all that matters, isn't it?

Kathi

Russel Fouts on sun 19 feb 06


>> depends on which fat man I reckon....... <<

"Devine" looked pretty good in heels! All 300 lbs of him. ;-)

Ru



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