Earl Brunner on sun 19 feb 06
John and Ron DID publish the recipes and firing schedule. Four years ago. The way they saw fit.
I've got an idea, John why don't you put your book out there in PDF format on your website so everyone could have easy, free access to it?
Earl Brunner e-mail: brunv53@yahoo.com
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From: John Britt
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 5:57:10 PM
Subject: Re: Free recipes/Compromise
Chuck,
You are 100% correct. I am with you all the way.
Finally someone with a rational reply!
I really think that Ron or John should post the recipes so that they can
put them out there the way the see fit. (with firing cycles, etc.)
And no need to "lub me up". Your opinion is as good as anyone's,
especially mine!
Waiting for Ron and John's reply,
John Britt
www.johnbrittpottery.com
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Chuck Wagoner on sun 19 feb 06
> Before you get too bent out of shape explain something to me. Why is
it
> that, of the millions of recipes on the planet earth, there are only
about
> 10 recipes that cannot be posted on clayart, (the ones in Ron and
John's
> book)?
Hi John,
The book is so good and so are the glazes. Let's just compromise at
"When you are going to share them at least also recommend the book too."
This would be especially true if the potters were going to make ware for
food use as I do. It was not about the money as much as about the
knowledge.
You are right, there are lots of glazes "out there" and maybe that is
why I think people ought to read a book that explains why many of those
glazes when used incorrectly could be dangerous. There is more to using
glazes then just mixing up the formulas. Their book explains it so well.
By the way, your glazes and forms are wonderful and I am humbled by your
resume. As a small mom and pop pottery I feel a little sheepish for
spouting off to such an accomplished artist.
Respectfully yours,
Chuck T. Wagoner
25 years making pots to eat out of and off of. (Billie Creek Village)
Student of Richard Peeler, Dick Hay, Don Reitz, Bruce Brekinridge and
grew up watching Richard Burkett fire a salt kiln in his parents
driveway. (He was friends with my older brother when they were in high
school.)
Rockville, IN
John Britt on sun 19 feb 06
Chuck,
You are 100% correct. I am with you all the way.
Finally someone with a rational reply!
I really think that Ron or John should post the recipes so that they can
put them out there the way the see fit. (with firing cycles, etc.)
And no need to "lub me up". Your opinion is as good as anyone's,
especially mine!
Waiting for Ron and John's reply,
John Britt
www.johnbrittpottery.com
Kathy McDonald on mon 20 feb 06
I have always been an open proponent of sharing glaze recipies.
I have always found that the recipies will never look the same on another
person's pot as they do on mine.
So many variables enter into how a glaze appears after firing .
I do think ,however, that if someone has published a book with
any variation of a particular glaze that one should have that person's
permission to post that glaze in the "public" domain and should definitely
acknowledge the source. I know I always like to buy the book if i have the
financial resources to do so.
BTW..both John and Ron's book are very worthwhile purchases.
(they were # 57 and 62 in my collection)
Kathy
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Snail Scott on tue 21 feb 06
Generosity is not a virtue if it's compulsory.
-Snail
earlk on tue 21 feb 06
Knowledge is of little value.
It is the ability to apply knowledge that is valuable.
Knowing a glaze recipie is only the start.
It is the formulation, application and firing of a
glaze that gives valuable results.
Ron & John applied their knowledge by writing
a book. The book is not about glaze recipies,
per se, but about how to concoct and use glazes.
It is a level above a list of recipies.
They say they asked us not to divulge the recipies
because the book was more than just about
recipies.
That is true.
They wanted us to learn about things like
leaching, COE and firing ramps.
We have.
We discuss these subjects freely on Clayart,
but we still do not discuss their recipies.
Could we not learn still more by disecting
their recipies piece by piece? Are their
glazes perfect as is? What would be the
effect of a little more alumina here, or a
little less calcium there? It is hard to
intelligently discuss these things without
listing a glaze's components.
We have largely abided with Ron's & John's
wishes to this point. It appears from John's
previous post that he has given us his OK
to post recipies but I believe, out of respect,
a clear pronouncement, or denial, of that
fact from both Ron and John would ease
people's minds.
earlk...
bothell, wa, usa
May Luk (Yamerica) on wed 22 feb 06
Hello earlk and others;
Who are we? What's with this compromise sh!t? Why put John and Ron on
the spot? Why can't we just refer to page whatever in this whatever
book? I do this all the time with other books. There's the library and
go look it up. Any serious student would know how to do research?
I just went into a muslim shop and bought some grocery. On one self, it
says, ' this is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
We have largely abided with Ron's & John's
wishes to this point. It appears from John's
previous post that he has given us his OK
to post recipies but I believe, out of respect,
a clear pronouncement, or denial, of that
fact from both Ron and John would ease
people's minds.
earlk...
May Luk (Yamerica) on wed 22 feb 06
Hello earlk and others;
Sorry about earlier....
I just went into a muslim shop and bought some grocery. On one shelf, it
was taped up and a sign says, 'this is Danish and we can't sell it'. I
felt strange seeing that.
Free speech and respect of others - it's a tough call.
This is a bit over the top, I know, but why not? This is the internet.
Everything is free and we are all free, no?
May
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
We have largely abided with Ron's & John's
wishes to this point. It appears from John's
previous post that he has given us his OK
to post recipies but I believe, out of respect,
a clear pronouncement, or denial, of that
fact from both Ron and John would ease
people's minds.
earlk...
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