Tim Frederich on fri 24 feb 06
Hello all,
There have been several posts recently on brick and castables. As Mel has said many times, your kiln is the main piece of equipment you will need in making pots so don't try to cut corners. There are outlets where you can buy new brick and not pay a fortune for them. You can also look for used brick, but be cautious about what type of materials they came in contact with and what residue they may contain. Many used brick may have been fired to the point that their structural integrity might be in question. The time and cost of materials to make your own brick would not be cost effective. Hi-heat duty brick are usually fired to a temperature that you could not achieve in your electric or gas kiln at home.
Castables are a wonderful material for use in kilns if the right castable is used. I rep for a company that makes about 200 different castables. Again, homemade castables can work for outside coatings as an example but will not have the strength and longevity that commercial castables have. The cost of materials and your time will probably not save you any money in the final result. You get what you pay for, so don't be cheap about your kiln.
I am always glad to answer questions about kilns and materials and to find materials and prices. I have built many different types of kilns. I thought kilns were a complicated pieces of machinery when I first started building them 40 years ago. I have come to realize they are not complicated and with some forethought, research and experimentation almost anyone can build a workable kiln to fit their needs.
Tim Frederich
Diversified Ceramic Services Inc.
7144 Scioto Road
Dublin, Ohio 43017
614-946-2156
614-873-6614 fax
tfrederich@hotmail.com
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Tony Ferguson on fri 24 feb 06
Tim
Can we get a link to the website to view products. I just got off the phone with Tom Coleman and he and I are in the planning stages for building a kiln based on my kiln at a new art school in Vegas--it will be a hybrid of our ideas. Hopefully it will happen. Anyway, Tom and Elaine just returned from Balitmore Clay Works with which he was very impressed by. To get to the point here Tom was really impressed with a new wood kiln they build using castable, fiber, and scrap clay and the results of the firing. I think castable and fiber might be the way to go. Only thing is you can't reclaim anything such as brick should you tear it down. Anyway, have a great day all. I agree with Tim on not cheaping out on materials but if you have the time and materials, experiment and you will always learn something new.
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candy murguia on tue 28 feb 06
What company do you rep for, and which castable would be suitable for a 10
cu ft catenary arch cone ten kiln? Or if you dont recommend casting the
arch, which company has the best price on firebrick. All i can find locally
is low duty.
Candy
>From: Tim Frederich
>Reply-To: Clayart
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Brick and castables
>Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 11:26:25 -0500
>
>
>
>Hello all,
>
>There have been several posts recently on brick and castables. As Mel has
>said many times, your kiln is the main piece of equipment you will need in
>making pots so don't try to cut corners. There are outlets where you can
>buy new brick and not pay a fortune for them. You can also look for used
>brick, but be cautious about what type of materials they came in contact
>with and what residue they may contain. Many used brick may have been fired
>to the point that their structural integrity might be in question. The time
>and cost of materials to make your own brick would not be cost effective.
>Hi-heat duty brick are usually fired to a temperature that you could not
>achieve in your electric or gas kiln at home.
>
>Castables are a wonderful material for use in kilns if the right castable
>is used. I rep for a company that makes about 200 different castables.
>Again, homemade castables can work for outside coatings as an example but
>will not have the strength and longevity that commercial castables have.
>The cost of materials and your time will probably not save you any money in
>the final result. You get what you pay for, so don't be cheap about your
>kiln.
>
>I am always glad to answer questions about kilns and materials and to find
>materials and prices. I have built many different types of kilns. I thought
>kilns were a complicated pieces of machinery when I first started building
>them 40 years ago. I have come to realize they are not complicated and with
>some forethought, research and experimentation almost anyone can build a
>workable kiln to fit their needs.
>
>Tim Frederich
>Diversified Ceramic Services Inc.
>7144 Scioto Road
>Dublin, Ohio 43017
>614-946-2156
>614-873-6614 fax
>tfrederich@hotmail.com
>
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Tim Frederich on wed 1 mar 06
Candy,
Would you please send me your phone number and I will call you on my dime. We do have castables that would work for the arch and that will go way above Cone 10. I also can get brick for you that is high heat duty and at a reasonable price. Thanks.
Tim Frederich
Diversified Ceramic Services Inc.
7144 Scioto Road
Dublin, Ohio 43017
614-946-2156
614-873-6614 fax
tfrederich@hotmail.com
From: candy murguia <candy.clay@HOTMAIL.COM>
Reply-To: Clayart <CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG>
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: Brick and castables
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 10:32:39 -0800
>What company do you rep for, and which castable would be suitable
>for a 10
>cu ft catenary arch cone ten kiln? Or if you dont recommend casting
>the
>arch, which company has the best price on firebrick. All i can find
>locally
>is low duty.
>
>Candy
>
>
>
>>From: Tim Frederich <tfrederich@HOTMAIL.COM>
>>Reply-To: Clayart <CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG>
>>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>>Subject: Brick and castables
>>Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 11:26:25
-0500
>>
>>
>>
>>Hello all,
>>
>>There have been several posts recently on brick and castables. As
>>Mel has
>>said many times, your kiln is the main piece of equipment you will
>>need in
>>making pots so don't try to cut corners. There are outlets where
>>you can
>>buy new brick and not pay a fortune for them. You can also look for
>>used
>>brick, but be cautious about what type of materials they came in
>>contact
>>with and what residue they may contain. Many used brick may have
>>been fired
>>to the point that their structural integrity might be in question.
>>The time
>>and cost of materials to make your own brick would not be cost
>>effective.
>>Hi-heat duty brick are usually
fired to a temperature that you
>>could not
>>achieve in your electric or gas kiln at home.
>>
>>Castables are a wonderful material for use in kilns if the right
>>castable
>>is used. I rep for a company that makes about 200 different
>>castables.
>>Again, homemade castables can work for outside coatings as an
>>example but
>>will not have the strength and longevity that commercial castables
>>have.
>>The cost of materials and your time will probably not save you any
>>money in
>>the final result. You get what you pay for, so don't be cheap about
>>your
>>kiln.
>>
>>I am always glad to answer questions about kilns and materials and
>>to find
>>materials and prices. I have built many different types of
kilns. I
>>thought
>>kilns were a complicated pieces of machinery when I first started
>>building
>>them 40 years ago. I have come to realize they are not complicated
>>and with
>>some forethought, research and experimentation almost anyone can
>>build a
>>workable kiln to fit their needs.
>>
>>Tim Frederich
>>Diversified Ceramic Services Inc.
>>7144 Scioto Road
>>Dublin, Ohio 43017
>>614-946-2156
>>614-873-6614 fax
>>tfrederich@hotmail.com
>>
>> With MSN Spaces email straight to your blog. Upload jokes, photos
>>and
>>more. It's free!
>>
>>______________________________________________________________________________
>>Send postings to
clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>>
>>You may look at the archives for the list or change your
>>subscription
>>settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>>
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>>melpots@pclink.com.
>
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