Jacob Runyan on thu 2 mar 06
Well, if you are making tiles, it depends upon your
production.
I dont think extruders are that well suited for
tilemaking, but that is a very personal opinion. I
worked for Motawi for a while, I know how quick a RAM
press works. I also know how quickly you can press by
hand into a plaster mold...and recieve MUCH more
consistant results.
For what it's worth, even if you are using the big
blue extruder, assuming a tile of 6x6x5/8, you are
going to get about 20 per fill (figuring for shrinkage
and barrel loss).
If you are sure you want to extrude tiles, BIG BLUE
has gotten the most consistent good feedback. Bailey
extruders are good, but take some getting used
to...like any piece of equipment I guess.
This is my dream extruder:
http://www.talismansieve.co.nz/pugmill.html
I dont know how well it works. I dont even know if
it's sold in the US.
But really, if you are deadset on extruding tiles,
look in to getting a pugmill that will take a die
holder. It saves on the wrists and you can spend your
time working on tiles, not refilling a barrel or
wedging clay.
I have an extruder that I made (I routinely make hand
extruders and sell on Ebay), basically out of an old
electric/hydraulic log splitter. Foot valve is hooked
up. Both hands free. That thing will push some
clay...and honestly, I dont have much trouble with
warpage just dropping the pug in (straight from the
bag). Problem is, you dont want to know what it would
cost to buy. My guess is right in line with the cost
of a pugmill. Again, the barrel is only so big
though. What I am extruding is small, so I dont care.
But then hey, the bailey system, with tile barrel and
tile adapter will run you over a grand anyway...so why
not spend the extra and get the pugill??
-Jacob
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Wendy Kelsey on thu 2 mar 06
We are ready to buy an extruder and want a large model such as the Big Blue or the Bailey System 1 or 3 extruders. If you are using these extruders please advise of the advantages or disadvantages of them. Is it worth the extra money on the Baileys to get the pneumatic model? We primarily do tiles but also do other items. But we do need the ability for it to take a wide format for the tiles so we can get at least a 6" and preferably up to an 8" tile. Thanks all!
Wendy Kelsey
Operations Manager
Martini Ceramics
Custom Tile and Ceramic Arts
1272 Paradise Cove
Ferndale, WA 98248-9469
Telephone: 360-392-8607
Fax: 832-550-4856
Mud Duck Pottery on thu 2 mar 06
Wendy
I have a small North Star and the Bailey pneumatic. The north star is great
for what it was built for, small work and low volume. If you intend to use
it a lot with a lot of production go for the Bailey. It's a great machine
and well worth the money.
A friend of mine has the Big Blue and it does well also. He prefers my
Bailey over his because you have both hands free to hold and manipulate the
extrusions as they come out of the barrel.
Gene & Latonna
mudduck@advi.net
www.mudduckpottery.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wendy Kelsey"
To:
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:51 AM
Subject: advice on extruder purchase
> We are ready to buy an extruder and want a large model such as the Big
Blue or the Bailey System
Alisa Liskin Clausen on fri 3 mar 06
I bought the Big Blue after using my smaller Northstar extruder a lot. I
like the extrusions from the Big Blue. The wheel is easy to turn and
requires not much exertion to get the soft clay through the dies of various
sizes. I do not know how the Bailey extruder loads, but I think my Big Blue
as a little still to desire. The barrel is mighty heavy with a full load of
20lbs. I can manage about 6 fills and then I just have give myself a rest.
I knee it up under the extrusion barrel to save my back and the safety pin
to hold it there can be sort of pesky to push in and out. However, it makes
really nice extrusions.
Regards from Alisa in Denmark
Lori Doty on fri 3 mar 06
The talisman pugmill site
lists a whole bunch
of US Distributors as well as several international. I am even more
interested in it now since I don't need a huge pugmill and don't have a
lot of space in my studio for one on a flat horizontal surface.
Thanks for that info.
Lori Doty
On Mar 2, 2006, at 11:49 PM, Jacob Runyan wrote:
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> This is my dream extruder:
>
> http://www.talismansieve.co.nz/pugmill.html
>
> I dont know how well it works. I dont even know if
> it's sold in the US.
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