louroess2210 on tue 14 mar 06
On Mar 14, 2006, at 1:34 AM, Anne Wellings wrote:
> Another good one is Bringle's ^6 Wet, Dry, Bisque Slip, which can
> be found
> in the archives. I have used it and it gives vibrant colors and a
> smooth
> surface without glaze, and with some colorants a bit of a sheen.
> There's
> also a ^10 version.
>
> Anne
Can a slip be usable for both wet and dry pieces? I thought the
shrinkage between wet and dry would preclude that. I know there is
no more shrinkage from bone dry to bisque so a slip can be used on
either. I thought a slip could be for either wet and leather hard OR
dry and bisque, but not both. Thanks,
Lou in Colorado
P.S. Linda Arbuckle suggests not using borax because it is soluble
and makes crystals. Is there a substitute like GB or a frit that
would also work?
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Quotes From the ARCHIVES
==========================
What is appealing about the Bringle's is that is said it can be used
on wet, dry and even bisque ware. Tom Sawyer
------==================
...a recipe for Bringle slip which is amazing for it's ability to
work on
greenware and bisque. Here it is - - -
Bringle slip Cone 6
EPK 20
Ball clay 20
Neph syen 25
Flint 30
Borax 5 ( I substitute gerst bor with good results)
Bentonite 2
==================
**Cynthia Bringle Slip for wet greenware Cone 10
Borax 5
Custer spar 25
EPK 20
Ball Clay 20
Silica 30
Colors: blue, co carb 2.5%; blue green, co carb 1.5%, chrome oxide 2.0%;
Brown, red iron oxide 25%; yellow, rutile 20%; white, zircopax 7.5%
(Note, one person on Clayart subs gerst borate for borax & it works ok)
*One party adds ~2% bentonite for Cynthia Bringle slip and says its
ok for
FOR BISQUE:
+=======================
"In any case, it is a wonderful slip that works equally well on wet,
dry or bisque fired ware without having to adjust for shrinkage,"
================
Charles Manuel on wed 15 mar 06
Anne,
Try using vinegar instead of water. Be careful on leather hard as it =
softens the clay faster than water and the piece will slump if too much =
is added at a time in one spot. I prefer putting it on bone dry spraying =
it for larger pieces. Brushing dries too fast and even hand spraying =
vinegar to moisten before is touchy as it still dries too fast and =
brushwork is difficult to get smooth. Works great for mishima or =
inlaying as you can sand very soon and add additional as needed. If you =
spray the slip, it will have a slight rough texture but a light sanding =
after bisquing will make it smooth. We are still experiementing with the =
process. Have fun!
=20
Chuck Manuel
Lamoni, IA
cemanuel@graceland.edu
________________________________
From: Clayart on behalf of louroess2210
Sent: Tue 3/14/2006 12:38 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: Slip question- John, Ron?
On Mar 14, 2006, at 1:34 AM, Anne Wellings wrote:
> Another good one is Bringle's ^6 Wet, Dry, Bisque Slip, which can
> be found
> in the archives. I have used it and it gives vibrant colors and a
> smooth
> surface without glaze, and with some colorants a bit of a sheen.
> There's
> also a ^10 version.
>
> Anne
Can a slip be usable for both wet and dry pieces? I thought the
shrinkage between wet and dry would preclude that. I know there is
no more shrinkage from bone dry to bisque so a slip can be used on
either. I thought a slip could be for either wet and leather hard OR
dry and bisque, but not both. Thanks,
Lou in Colorado
P.S. Linda Arbuckle suggests not using borax because it is soluble
and makes crystals. Is there a substitute like GB or a frit that
would also work?
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Quotes From the ARCHIVES
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=3D
What is appealing about the Bringle's is that is said it can be used
on wet, dry and even bisque ware. Tom Sawyer
------=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
...a recipe for Bringle slip which is amazing for it's ability to
work on
greenware and bisque. Here it is - - -
Bringle slip Cone 6
EPK 20
Ball clay 20
Neph syen 25
Flint 30
Borax 5 ( I substitute gerst bor with good results)
Bentonite 2
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
**Cynthia Bringle Slip for wet greenware Cone 10
Borax 5
Custer spar 25
EPK 20
Ball Clay 20
Silica 30
Colors: blue, co carb 2.5%; blue green, co carb 1.5%, chrome oxide 2.0%;
Brown, red iron oxide 25%; yellow, rutile 20%; white, zircopax 7.5%
(Note, one person on Clayart subs gerst borate for borax & it works ok)
*One party adds ~2% bentonite for Cynthia Bringle slip and says its
ok for
FOR BISQUE:
+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
"In any case, it is a wonderful slip that works equally well on wet,
dry or bisque fired ware without having to adjust for shrinkage,"
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
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Anne Wellings on wed 15 mar 06
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:38:40 -0700, louroess2210
wrote:
>P.S. Linda Arbuckle suggests not using borax because it is soluble
>and makes crystals. Is there a substitute like GB or a frit that
>would also work?
>
>===============================
>Quotes From the ARCHIVES
>==========================
>Borax 5 ( I substitute gerst bor with good results)
Just thought I'd report that I use Borax in slip with no problem. After a
period of time, it begins to crust up just a little on the sides of the
container, but not in a way that interferes with the use of the slip. You
do have to be able to get its coarse granules through a screen, which hsn't
been a problem for me. But if it is, I've heard of people dissolving the
Borax in hot water first.
Good to hear that GB can be used instead of Borax. I might try it. But if
all you have is Borax, go for it.
Anne
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