C. A. Sanger on tue 28 mar 06
I've used Thompson's Water Seal to treat my double-tempered masonite bats=
(1/4" thick, smooth on both sides) for several years. I usually soaked =
them several hours, and the treatment lasts a year or so. I am giving th=
em a new soak this week, and am not happy with the rise in price for Thom=
pson's. (I've used three gallons so far, and need to buy a fourth.) Doe=
s anyone use another waterproofing method that is cheaper? Thanks!
C. A. Sanger ShardRock Clay Studio Herington, KS 67449
steve graber on tue 28 mar 06
why waterproof them? i think the value of wood bats, "open" pore bats, is that they can extract water from the foot of a pot so they tend to dry more evenly.
see ya
steve
"C. A. Sanger" wrote:
I've used Thompson's Water Seal to treat my double-tempered masonite bats (1/4" thick, smooth on both sides) for several years. I usually soaked them several hours, and the treatment lasts a year or so. I am giving them a new soak this week, and am not happy with the rise in price for Thompson's. (I've used three gallons so far, and need to buy a fourth.) Does anyone use another waterproofing method that is cheaper? Thanks!
C. A. Sanger ShardRock Clay Studio Herington, KS 67449
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m.mshelomi on tue 28 mar 06
How about mineral oil, corn oil or whatever cooking oil is least expensive?
What is not soaked up by the bats can be saved for use the next time.
pottermim
----- Original Message -----
From: "C. A. Sanger"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:10 AM
Subject: Waterproofing Bats
I've used Thompson's Water Seal to treat my double-tempered masonite bats
(1/4" thick, smooth on both sides) for several years. I usually soaked them
several hours, and the treatment lasts a year or so. I am giving them a new
soak this week, and am not happy with the rise in price for Thompson's.
(I've used three gallons so far, and need to buy a fourth.) Does anyone use
another waterproofing method that is cheaper? Thanks!
C. A. Sanger ShardRock Clay Studio Herington, KS 67449
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pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on tue 28 mar 06
Hi C.A.,
"Watco" Oil....
Or, Linseed Oil...
Or both mixed togather...
Mix some Turpentine with either to thin them
some...and add some Japan Drier also to theLinseed
based mixes to speed their cureing time.
Throw any clean-up rags in the Woodstove, as
'Spontaneous Combustion' is associated with these
and other Drying Oils, but especially with any
Linseed based ones.
Much better than 'Thompsons Water Seal' for
Masonite Bats...
Just soak for a while, hang and let drip into the
soaking tray or pan...then hang outdoors to let
dry for a few days.
Should be good for a long long time then.
Phil
Las Vegas
----- Original Message -----
From: "C. A. Sanger"
I've used Thompson's Water Seal to treat my
double-tempered masonite bats (1/4" thick, smooth
on both sides) for several years. I usually
soaked them several hours, and the treatment lasts
a year or so. I am giving them a new soak this
week, and am not happy with the rise in price for
Thompson's. (I've used three gallons so far, and
need to buy a fourth.) Does anyone use another
waterproofing method that is cheaper? Thanks!
C. A. Sanger ShardRock Clay Studio Herington, KS
67449
pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on tue 28 mar 06
Hi Steve,
The reason is that a Masonite Bat which well
'sealed' with Drying Oils, will let the Clay
adhere much better than a plain dry untreated one
will...as well as prevent too much moisture from
entering the Bat itself which causes it to distort
and deteriorate and puff up and get wangy over
time...sometimes, not much time at that, when they
are just 'plain'.
The idea too, is for the Clay adhesion to be
optimum over a range of Clay wetness or dampness.
A plain dry Masonite Bat will wick in the moisture
too fast and make for a poor or transient adhesion
instead of a steady reliable one, especially in
Trimming occasions...
Phil
Las Vegas
----- Original Message -----
From: "steve graber"
> why waterproof them? i think the value of wood
bats, "open" pore bats, is that they can extract
water from the foot of a pot so they tend to dry
more evenly.
>
> see ya
>
> steve
>
> "C. A. Sanger" wrote:
> I've used Thompson's Water Seal to treat my
double-tempered masonite bats (1/4" thick, smooth
on both sides) for several years. I usually soaked
them several hours, and the treatment lasts a year
or so. I am giving them a new soak this week, and
am not happy with the rise in price for
Thompson's. (I've used three gallons so far, and
need to buy a fourth.) Does anyone use another
waterproofing method that is cheaper? Thanks!
>
> C. A. Sanger ShardRock Clay Studio Herington, KS
67449
>
>
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Charan Sachar on tue 28 mar 06
As the topic of bats was on, I thought I would add my nw finding... though
it is not related to waterproofing bats. So sorry about that.
Has anyone tried Wonderbats? I saw a postcard about these at NCECA and
ordered the 6" square bats with the adapter. They are made from some
environmentally friendly recycled wood product that is formaldehyde free.
(That could be selling gimmick....so I don't know) But I ordered them and
absolutely love them. The material is like a very dense masonite and the
bats are a good 3/8" think. When I spoke to the gentleman who sold them,
he mentioned that they absorb like plaster and the pots would just pop off
when leatherhard. I have not tried that yet because I wire tool early to
add decorations and handles when my pieces are a little wetter than
leatherhard.
They sell several sizes and are very reasonable too.
I have no interest in the company. Just loved their product. Here is a
link to the website. http://www.rockymtnwoodmasters.com/
Thanks
Charan
www.creativewithclay.com
Taylor Hendrix on tue 28 mar 06
Ooo, yum.
http://www.cmicompany.com/pageBuild.asp?PageID=3DB_ext_e
t in r, tx
On 3/28/06, Charan Sachar wrote:
...
> Has anyone tried Wonderbats? I saw a postcard about these at NCECA and
> ordered the 6" square bats with the adapter. They are made from some
> environmentally friendly recycled wood product that is formaldehyde free.
...
Bonnie Staffel on wed 29 mar 06
Hi C A,
I have used Masonite bats and use motor oil on them. This lasts quite a
while. When they start looking light, I give them another treatment. I
like the idea that there is still some water absorbed by the Masonite =
with
my method. My pots seem to pop off a lot easier when I make them with =
the
Coil and Slab method. I just smear a spoonful or more with a rag on the
bat, stack them in a plastic bag overnight and by morning they have =
absorbed
all the oil. I use a clay donut to hold my bats.
However, if you really want to waterproof them, I have found a great
waterproofer/sealer in the product called Weldbond made in Canada but =
sold
in the US at various places. They have a website under Frank T. Ross =
and
Sons, Toronto, Can. This is basically a glue, but thinned down to =
skimmed
milk consistency with water, it seals my pit and smoke fired pots =
completely
so that they hold water. =20
I have no financial interest in this company, just a very satisfied =
user.
Bonnie Staffel
http://webpages.charter.net/bstaffel/
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