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Mike Gordon on tue 30 may 06


This is in relation to a reply to Malcolm Schosha from Lee ( pardon me
if I'm mistaken )
Malcolm said....

I spend more time, trimming, carving, slipping and scraping my pots
than I do throwing them. When you think of it, throwing plastic clay is
only the tip of the iceberg in any ceramic wheel made piece.

This statement may be true for your own work and your approach to it
but it is not necessarily true for evryone as you suggest. There are
lots of potters who do no, or very little, trimming after throwing on
the wheel. Stephen Hill and Matt Long are two that come to mind that
don't trim at all. They force dry their pots and both apply slip by
hand. I always trim a foot on my pots large or small. I like the look.
Mike Gordon

Malcolm Schosha on wed 31 may 06


Hi Mike,

That was written by Lee, describing is work process. The "slipping
and scraping" refers, I assume, to his inlay process. I tried slip
inlay a few times, but it did not work for me; no doubt because of
something I did not understand about the process.

Clearly, Lee understands that different people prefer to work
differently; as I do also. That is one of the very things we were
discussing.

Be well.

Malcolm

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--- In clayart@yahoogroups.com, Mike Gordon wrote:
>
> This is in relation to a reply to Malcolm Schosha from Lee (
pardon me
> if I'm mistaken )
> Malcolm said....
>
> I spend more time, trimming, carving, slipping and scraping my
pots
> than I do throwing them. When you think of it, throwing plastic
clay is
> only the tip of the iceberg in any ceramic wheel made piece.
>
> This statement may be true for your own work and your approach to it
> but it is not necessarily true for evryone as you suggest. There are
> lots of potters who do no, or very little, trimming after throwing
on
> the wheel. Stephen Hill and Matt Long are two that come to mind that
> don't trim at all. They force dry their pots and both apply slip by
> hand. I always trim a foot on my pots large or small. I like the
look.
> Mike Gordon
>
>
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lee love on wed 31 may 06


--- In clayart@yahoogroups.com, Mike Gordon wrote:
>
>
> I spend more time, trimming, carving, slipping and scraping my
> pots than I do throwing them.

Mike wrote:

> This statement may be true for your own work and your approach to it
> but it is not necessarily true for evryone as you suggest.

Mike. Please read carefully. I said this is how _I_ work.

Malcolm: the whole trick with inlay is catching the pots at the
right time for scraping, and using very sharp tools. Timing is
equally important for making impressions in the clay.

When Fukuyan sat down to scrape inlay, he would set at least
a dozen sharp tools on a cloth in front of his workspace, so he
wouldn't have to get up to sharpen them (we never used a file on a
trimming tool at the wheel space, because of the iron filings that are
created.)

Then I wrote:

> When you think of it, throwing plastic clay is
> only the tip of the iceberg in any ceramic wheel made piece.

And Mike wrote:

>There are
> lots of potters who do no, or very little, trimming after
>throwing on the wheel.

Next time you do a work cycle, you should do a time study.
Even if you just take the pot off the wheelhead and put it in the
kiln, throwing is just the tip of the iceberg. We have all the
prep work including buying our materials. You make plans for what
you are going to make. You arrange your work area, select the tools
for the job, pug or wedge your clay and all this before you ever touch
the wheel. If you slip or glaze your pots, you have all that prep
work too. And I haven't even mentioned the business side like paying
bills and keeping books.

What I liked most about school was all the time I spend
throwing and mushing things up.

When you are doing it for a living, your little steam engine is
pulling a mighty big caboose. ;^)

--
Lee in Mashiko, Japan


"Let the beauty we love be what we do." - Rumi