Ivor and Olive Lewis on sun 11 jun 06
What's all this nonsense about Bamboo being a tree. Total Codswallop.
It's a Monocotyledon, genus Bambuza. A Tall Grass with a hollow jointed =
stem. Stems are better known as "Canes"
Best regards,
Ivor.
Taylor Hendrix on sun 11 jun 06
Ivor,
Some prefer calling the "cane" a culm, and some bamboo botanists might
take issue with your classification of bamboo as a grass. They have
been wanting to change that for years.
Still makes for beautiful plants, doesn't it?
t in r tx
Lee Love on sun 11 jun 06
On 6/11/06, Ivor and Olive Lewis wrote:
> What's all this nonsense about Bamboo being a tree. Total Codswallop.
Relax Ivor! By tree, I was making a distinction between the
roots that are solid and make good tea pot handles and the part above
the ground that is hollow, with branches and leaves. I have cut a
lot of bamboo and use the wood (haha, Ivor's reed?) to make pottery
tools. I periodically cut bamboo along the wall behind my house
because it gets tangled in the powerlines running to the studio.
The bamboo grove (Ivor would say field I suppose, because it
is grass) behind my house has specimens easily over two stories tall
and 4 inches or more in diameter. To our east side, we have a
Cryptomeria japonica/Cupressus japonica grove, or as they call them
here: Sugi trees. So we have green all the year 'round.
A striking experience in the winter is when the
bamboo/(take: ta-kay, in Japanese) become heavy with snow. They bend
well under weight, but when the snow is too much, they snap and
resound like a rifle shot.
A funny thing they like to do to newbies at my Sensei's
workshop, is not tell them to bust the chambers on a length of bamboo
before they put them in the fire. We kept a fire during the fall and
winter noborigama firings & during the loading of the kiln. Because
the chambers inside a bamboo branch are sealed tight, they explode
when they get hot enough and this scatters the fire (and the newbie)
in all directions. You are supposed to bust the nodes so this
doesn't happen. They keep a heavy hammer near the fire spot for this
purpose.
If you cut bamboo for tools, the best time is in the
winter, when they achieve full growth and hardness and the moisture
goes into the roots (leaves the "tree" part.) If you cut new bamboo
in the spring or summer it is very soft and will wither as it dries
out. You can make things like knives and lifting slats after it
dries a couple months. But for things like toombo/measuring gauges,
it is better to used seasoned wood(cane), because it will not have a
lot of shrinkage.
We went to Tochigi City today to see a fine Lucy Rie show.
Her work is pretty impressive. On our way out of the compound,
rows of tents were set up, mostly selling food. We bought gyros from
a guy from Turkey, who teaches English in Tochigi City. A guy was
in the booth next to him, was making traditional toys out of bamboo
and also pencils out of tree branches. He gave us some of each
while we were eating. The toys were toombo/dragon flies, but in
America we might call them helicopters. They were also "puffing
rice", which includes an explosion that puffs them. We got a couple
bags of sweetened puffed rice too. We recieved these gifts because
folks were closing up their booths early. It was raining petty
heavily.
--
Lee In Mashiko, Japan
http://mashiko.org
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transfiguration, not for the sake of play. It is the quest of our self
that drives us along the eternal and never-ending journey we must all
make." --Max Beckmann
clennell on sun 11 jun 06
Sour Cherry Pottery
> What's all this nonsense about Bamboo being a tree. Total Codswallop.
> It's a Monocotyledon, genus Bambuza. A Tall Grass with a hollow jointed stem.
> Stems are better known as "Canes"
> Best regards,
> Ivor.
Dear Ivor: What's all this pickin on Lee for his quotes? We all have our
ways. I bet when you were age 12 ya read the Dictionary cover to cover
looking for mistakes. Kids like me thru rocks at you.
lee took me to a bamboo stand/grove/trail in Japan that looked like a bloody
forest to me. This was no lawn. You couldn't cut those babies with a knife
or a whipper snipper. You'd need an chainsaw. They made eaves troughs from
them.
Monocotyledon, genus Bamubuza- I'd rather smoke an asbestoes cigar than try
to memorize that.
Cheer,
Tony
Seaham Harbour miners stock
JOYCE LEE on sun 11 jun 06
ok
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Subject: Re: : Re: Tony C-Bamboo
> Sour Cherry Pottery
>
> > What's all this nonsense about Bamboo being a tree. Total Codswallop.
> > It's a Monocotyledon, genus Bambuza. A Tall Grass with a hollow jointed
stem.
> > Stems are better known as "Canes"
> > Best regards,
> > Ivor.
>
> Dear Ivor: What's all this pickin on Lee for his quotes? We all have our
> ways. I bet when you were age 12 ya read the Dictionary cover to cover
> looking for mistakes. Kids like me thru rocks at you.
> lee took me to a bamboo stand/grove/trail in Japan that looked like a
bloody
> forest to me. This was no lawn. You couldn't cut those babies with a knife
> or a whipper snipper. You'd need an chainsaw. They made eaves troughs from
> them.
> Monocotyledon, genus Bamubuza- I'd rather smoke an asbestoes cigar than
try
> to memorize that.
> Cheer,
> Tony
> Seaham Harbour miners stock
>
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June MacDonald on sun 11 jun 06
--- Ivor and Olive Lewis
wrote:
> What's all this nonsense about Bamboo being a tree.
> Total Codswallop.
>
Please define Codswallop??
We were in a Botanical Garden near Chang Mai a few
years ago, and there were some varieties of bamboo
that looked more like trees than grass. Wonderful
forms.
June from B.C.
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Lee Love on mon 12 jun 06
On 6/11/06, clennell wrote:
> Monocotyledon, genus Bamubuza- I'd rather smoke an asbestoes cigar than try
> to memorize that.
Tony, it is a shame that Ivor doesn't recognzie Palm, Coconut,
Date or Banana trees. ;^) Trees are not catagorized according
to their seed type or if they have growth rings, but rather by their
morphology.
Keith Richards hurt his head when he fell out of a coconut
tree in Fiji. What was he doing up there? *Haha!*
--
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MLC on wed 14 jun 06
> On Jun 11, 2006, at 11:11 AM, June MacDonald wrote:
>
> --- Ivor and Olive Lewis
> wrote:
>
>> What's all this nonsense about Bamboo being a tree.
>> Total Codswallop.
>>
> Please define Codswallop??
I often find myself looking up these things that are mentioned and
since no one else volunteered, this is what I found.
Nonsense.
This mainly British colloquial expression is recorded only from the =20
1960s, but is certainly older. Its origin is uncertain. Some argue it =20=
may be from cods, an old term for the testicles that derives from the =20=
Anglo-Saxon sense of cod, a bag. It is also suggested that wallop may =20=
be connected with the dialect term meaning to chatter or scold (not =20
with the word meaning a heavy blow).
One explanation has it that it refers to the late Hiram Codd, =20
who=97despite his archetypally American first name=97was British, born =
in =20
Bury St Edmunds in Suffolk in 1838. He spent his life working in the =20
soft drinks business. In the 1870s, he designed and patented a method =20=
of sealing a glass bottle by means of a ball in its neck, which the =20
pressure of the gas in the fizzy drink forced against a rubber washer. =20=
Making the bottle was a technical challenge, since the ball necessarily =20=
had to be larger than the diameter of the neck. It was only in 1876, =20
when he teamed up with a Yorkshire glass blower named Ben Rylands, that =20=
the answer was found. The Codd bottle was an immediate success; =20
surviving examples are now highly collectable. You opened them by =20
pushing the ball into the neck, and openers in the shape of short, thin =20=
cylinders were supplied for the purpose. One unexpected problem was =20
that children smashed the bottles to use the glass balls as marbles.
The suggestion is that drinkers who preferred their tipple to have =20
alcohol in it were dismissive of Mr Codd=92s soft drinks. As beer was =20=
often called wallop, they referred sneeringly to the fizzy drink as =20
Codd=92s wallop, and the resulting word later spread its meaning to =
refer =20
to anything considered to be rubbish.
This story reeks of the approach to word history called folk etymology. =20=
As one writer has put it, it seems rather too neat an explanation to be =20=
true. But nobody=92s come up with anything better.
But Wikkipedia had this for its etymology
Anglo-Saxon
The first etymology claims that the word derives from cods, an =20
Anglo-Saxon term for testicles, combined with another word of =20
Anglo-Saxon origin, wallop, meaning to scold or chastise (note that =20
this wallop is not the same as the word wallop, meaning "hit"). It =20
could be observed that cod=3Dtesticles and wallop=3Dhit would be very =20=
similar to Ball-Busting....As in "I was just bustin' your balls" which =20=
is a colloquial for putting someone on.
Critics have argued that it is the "punch" meaning of the term wallop =20=
that applies, not the older "scold" variant.
Millie in Md. with too much time on my hands just sitting here trying =20=
to recover from the cold from Hell, on yet another round of =20
antibiotics and inhalers. I guess that I should feel better because I =20=
am at least sitting up and able to read my email.
We were in a Botanical Garden near Chang Mai a few
years ago, and there were some varieties of bamboo
that looked more like trees than grass. Wonderful
forms.
June from B.C.
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