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o shipping wizards: educate me.

updated wed 23 aug 06

 

primalmommy on mon 21 aug 06


If you were shipping, say, a butter dish to Canada -- which shipper?
Does the buyer have to pay customs fees or whatever? Is there any way to
do it so the shipping doesn't exceed the cost of the item?

Thanks..

Kelly


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Bruce Glassford on tue 22 aug 06


primalmommy wrote:
> If you were shipping, say, a butter dish to Canada -- which shipper?
> Does the buyer have to pay customs fees or whatever? Is there any way to
> do it so the shipping doesn't exceed the cost of the item?
>
> Thanks..
>
> Kelly

If it's a commercial sale, customs fees are due. Check with the
shipping company how they handle it. Me, I only ship gifts to my
family, so haven't checked.

Given my latest performance with UPS (the box to my sister arrived
severely dented, with tire tracks on it... and 4 shattered bowls
inside...), pack well....

... Bruce

pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on tue 22 aug 06


Hi Kelly,


If it were me...


I would remember that 'Air' variously, will tend
to get some item to Canada, sometime 'while we're
young'...

And options which are not by 'Air', can or
reliably will...take "Months"...

Light items when sufficiently 'bubble-wrapped' for
prudence, may go into a 'Global Priority'
tear-proof bag, here to most places in the World,
for from five to twelve dollars and get there in a
week or less...tho' only with no insurance.

'Air Parcel Post' ( if memory serve, ) being an
insurable class, will tend to cost proportionately
more than Global Priority, according to the
distance/weight...but for light or light-ish tems
remains very economical and reasonably prompt
regardless of distance, pretty much...



Phil
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----- Original Message -----
From: "primalmommy"


> If you were shipping, say, a butter dish to
Canada -- which shipper?
> Does the buyer have to pay customs fees or
whatever? Is there any way to
> do it so the shipping doesn't exceed the cost of
the item?
>
> Thanks..
>
> Kelly

Mayssan Shora Farra on tue 22 aug 06


Hello Kelly:

Say it is a gift butter dish, do not include bill in it.

I have not sold anything to Canada but that is how I shipped a couple of
actual pottery gifts. USPS, not much more expensive than US.

Good Luck on your academic endeavors,

Mayssan, In beautiful Charleston, WV USA
http://www.clayvillepottery.com

clennell on tue 22 aug 06


Sour Cherry Pottery

> If you were shipping, say, a butter dish to Canada -- which shipper?
> Does the buyer have to pay customs fees or whatever? Is there any way to
> do it so the shipping doesn't exceed the cost of the item?
>
> Thanks..
>
> Kelly


Kelly: Since you mentioned Canada, I'll chime in but I ain't no wizard at
shipping... Butter dish means Food and Drug crossing the border. the only
way I have found to get my work thru customs without it being held up by
Food and Drug is to ship it "Manufacturers Sample- no value" or if it is a
lot of work "Manufacturers Samples- Value under $100. Pot-tery means drugs
to them and butter means food so I'd maybe list it as "Covered jar- gift".
You might as well claim little or no value because if it arrives at it's
destination smashed all to rat pooh and you had insured it you'll have
little or no success getting the claim money. They will show that you
didn't pack it properly. We use our local UPS store for large orders but a
small item like a cup is sent by Canada Post.
I like shipping UPS cross border since we now start tracking it the day it
leaves. We are watching to see it clear customs since then we know it is on
it's way. They can hold your item at Food and Drug for up to 6 weeks and not
notify you or the expecting party. We know! We had it happen.
Not sure if ya ever make money shipping a cup or a butter dish. The packing,
packing materials, driving to the post office/UPS, is really more a favour
to a friend than a money maker.
Sheila ships a couple of DVD's most days. It's easy to pop into a bubble
envelope, put a label on and that's $5.00 post. A cup or dish would be lots
more.
Hey, it's all work and it all adds up to a life. We just sent small 5
bourbon cups to Mike Martino in Japan- shipping was $40 I believe. If they
like your work, they'll pay the piper.
Best,
Tony

David Hendley on tue 22 aug 06


Kelly, shipping a butter dish to Canada is no big deal,
providing of course, that you can make a good butter dish.
Just box it up and take it to the Post Office. You will have
to fill out a small green customs form. If you ship
regularly, ask for a handful of the forms to take home,
so next time you can have it filled out before you go to
the Post Office. USPS is the way to go.

In Texas, a package that would cost, say $6 to send to
Nebraska, would cost maybe $8 or $9 to send to Canada.
Up north where you are, already close to the great frozen
land, the difference may be even less, I don't know.

Some one on the receiving end will have to fill you in on
customs fees. The only packages I receive from Canada
seem to be gifts, such as mugs from Tony Clennell. The
box marked 'cadeau' is checked on the customs form and
there is no duty due on my end.

David Hendley
Maydelle, Texas
david(at)farmpots(dot)com

"EXTRUDE IT! Getting the Most From
Your Clay Extruder" available at
http://www.farmpots.com





----- Original Message -----
> If you were shipping, say, a butter dish to Canada -- which shipper?
> Does the buyer have to pay customs fees or whatever? Is there any way to
> do it so the shipping doesn't exceed the cost of the item?
>
> Thanks..
>
> Kelly
>

Maid O'Mud on tue 22 aug 06


Send it by USPS and mark it clearly "GIFT" no commercial value.
My friend lives in MI (as do my godchildren) and we do this back
and forth all the time.

If you ship via a courier (UPS etc.) the receiver will end up
with a HEFTY fee.

Sam Cuttell
Maid O'Mud Pottery
RR 1
Melbourne, Ontario
N0L 1T0
CANADA

"First, the clay told me what to do.
Then, I told the clay what to do.
Now, we co-operate."
sam 1994

http://www.ody.ca/~scuttell/
scuttell@ody.ca
----- Original Message -----
From: "primalmommy"

> If you were shipping, say, a butter dish to Canada -- which shipper?
> Does the buyer have to pay customs fees or whatever? Is there any way to
> do it so the shipping doesn't exceed the cost of the item?
>
> Thanks..
>
> Kelly

June MacDonald on tue 22 aug 06


----- Original Message ----
From: primalmommy
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 11:20:16 AM
Subject: o shipping wizards: educate me.

If you were shipping, say, a butter dish to Canada -- which shipper?

I occasionally get things shipped to me in Canada from the USA, and I much prefer to receive things sent through the Post office even though I have to drive 10 miles to pick it up. Most American suppliers and book vendors seem to automatically send smaller items by post rather than by UPS. We have to pay customs duties on the value of the item. The amount of the duty is dependant on what the item is and the value filled in on the declaration form , and we have to pay GST (federal sales tax) and sometimes provincial taxes. If the item is sent to the recipient as a "gift", no duties or taxes apply.

June

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L. P. Skeen on tue 22 aug 06


USPS, baby. Definitely. Butter dishes ain't that big. Now if I were =
shipping something huge, UPS.=20

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If you were shipping, say, a butter dish to Canada -- which shipper?

Frances Howard on tue 22 aug 06


Hi Kelly,

For small items like a butter dish probably ordinary parcel post is far and
away the cheapest way. You have to be careful about carriers like UPS as
they charge twice, once to the border and then another charge after that.
They like to get in broker fees too. We had an importing business and had
someone practically full time working out shipping costs as it is pretty
complicated. But a butter dish should be OK parcel post. It would be
delivered to the door here in Canada and if there were any extra charges the
recipient would pay the post office. If you were to use another carrier
have a ton of questions lined up for them to answer first and get a
signature too. Whenever two carriers are involved shipping costs can leap
out of sight and if there is damage there will be a lot of arguing. Hope
this helps. Frances Howard.
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Subject: o shipping wizards: educate me.


> If you were shipping, say, a butter dish to Canada -- which shipper?
> Does the buyer have to pay customs fees or whatever? Is there any way to
> do it so the shipping doesn't exceed the cost of the item?
>
> Thanks..
>
> Kelly
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Liz Willoughby on tue 22 aug 06


>
>>If you were shipping, say, a butter dish to Canada -- which shipper?
>>Does the buyer have to pay customs fees or whatever? Is there any way to
>>do it so the shipping doesn't exceed the cost of the item?
>>
>>Thanks..
>>
>>Kelly


Hello Kelly,
Once at an NCECA I gave a cup and saucer to a potter who I had met.
He wanted to do a trade and didn't have anything at the time to trade
for the cup and saucer. He said he would send me something. I know
that he, (like you), was not aware of all the border stuff that can
give a real headache to someone who receives a pot in this manner.
He did it through a broker, and the pot cost me $30.00. I really
didn't want to tell this young potter what had happened, he had sent
it in good faith, not realizing I am sure that I would be charged.

If you are sending a pot to a potter, and not a store or gallery in
another country, please put "gift" on the declaration form and a
conservative dollar amount. It will go through without any charges
whatsoever.
Besides putting gift on the declaration form, I always print it on
the out side of the package, i.e. "Unsolicited gift, Value under
$30.00". With relatives in the states this is the norm for sending
packages at holiday time or for birthdays.
It really is an irritant to receive something that is a gift, or a
trade, and to be charged for it.
Liz from Grafton, Ontario, Canada, getting ready for a studio tour in
a couple of weeks.