Mayssan Shora Farra on thu 14 sep 06
Hello Russel:
From the art organizations I am in they juried all at the same time. First
run to eliminate the certain eliminations, very fast 3 sec. per slide.
Next run through the maybes a bit slower and more thought into it. Third
run is to make sure of the ones that are in. and that is a minimum.
But what do I know? I live in WV after all:)
Mayssan
http://www.clayvillepottery.com
Lynn Goodman Porcelain Pottery on thu 14 sep 06
You're right--it depends. In my experience, how structured the schedule
is, in respect to jurying, depends on the profile of the show. If they
are a big show/gallery and are hiring a jury, there is a specific date
for jurying, but they won't tell you what it is. If it's a small
gallery, and the show is juried by the staff, they may very well jury
as they receive entries.
Your best bet is to get your entry there before the deadline, so you
don't give them a reason to immediately reject you. After that, it's
shear luck.
Lynn
On Sep 14, 2006, at 6:27 PM, Russel Fouts wrote:
> When there is a call for entries and they say that the deadline is
> October 31st (for example).
>
> When does the jurying actually begin?
>
> Do they jury the entries as they come in and then judge futher
> entries as being strong enough to displace already chosen entries or
> does the jurying actually start at a preset date after the deadline
> when they have all the entries?
>
> Why do I have a strong sense that the answer is "it depends". ;-)
>
> Russel
Lynn Goodman
Fine Porcelain Pottery
Cell 347-526-9805
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Charlie Cummings on fri 15 sep 06
The deadline for an exhibition is usually far enough ahead of the
jurying process to allow the images to be organized for viewing. I
also think it would be unprofessional to jury the entries as they
arrive. I'm believe it happens, but I don't know anyone who makes a
final decision on the work as the entries come in. It is simply too
hard to compare and contrast when you don't have all of the images
available for viewing at one time.
Our Cup: The Intimate Object exhibition series usually receives
entries from 130-150 people. Entrants can send up to 3 entries, and
up to two images of each entry. If everyone sent the maximum number
of images, that would be 900 images to organize. Luckily, not
everyone sends 6 images. We usually end up with about 500 slides to
log into a database, organize in trays, send to the juror, unload
from the trays, and send slides of work that is not accepted back to
the artists...in less than a month.
We try to give the juror at least a full week with the slides. In my
experience, they look at the slides several times to familiarize
themselves with the group of work. Next they begin the selection
process. First they eliminate work that lacks professionalism in
presentation. Second, they look at skillful use of medium, and
achievement of intent. The last criterion is originality of
idea. Sometimes very good work is rejected because it is just like
the other 25...I don't know...Let's say, it is just like the other 25
wood-fired shino teabowls that have already been chosen for the
show. Sometimes work that explores a new idea beats out work that is
more skillfully executed.
I wouldn't say being selected is "sheer luck" as Lynn has
suggested. If your work is selected, it is because a.) you presented
your work professionally b.) you skillfully used of the medium to
convey your intent c.) your ideas are either original, or the best of
a group of similar pieces. The juror's opinion is a strong variable,
but it isn't a case of choosing what they like and don't like. They
make decisions based on their thoughts on our common
aesthetic...often accepting work that they don't "like" but which
they know is successful.
My entry deadlines are set to give me the minimum amount of time I
need to organize the images and send them to the juror. Besides the
professionalism issue, human nature, and the nature of artists, make
it nearly impossible to jury as the entries come in. 90% of the
entries for shows come in at the very last minute. (I'm constantly
horrified by how many artists pay $13.95 to overnight an entry when
they could have sent it 2 days earlier for less than $1.) The
postmark deadline for this year's cup show is September 29th*. So
far we have received entries from 4 people. The first time I hosted
a juried show this phenomenon totally freaked me out. I was sure the
show would be a failure. Two days after the postmark deadline, there
was a huge pile of entries. 90 entries in fact. Last year I had 25
the day before the postmark date, and 150 two days later.
A lot of serious work has to happen in a short time for exhibitions
to happen. The jurying begins as soon as I can organize everything
and send it to the juror. Usually a week and a half after the
postmark deadline.
Charlie Cummings
*arrival date for international entries...I've received international
entries weeks after the slides have gone to the juror.
At 06:27 PM 9/14/2006, you wrote:
>When there is a call for entries and they say that the deadline is
>October 31st (for example).
>
>When does the jurying actually begin?
>
>Do they jury the entries as they come in and then judge futher
>entries as being strong enough to displace already chosen entries or
>does the jurying actually start at a preset date after the deadline
>when they have all the entries?
>
>Why do I have a strong sense that the answer is "it depends". ;-)
>
>Russel
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4130 South Clinton Street
Fort Wayne, IN 46806
Charlie@claylink.com
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Dannon Rhudy on fri 15 sep 06
-Russell said:
> When there is a call for entries and they say that the deadline is
> October 31st (for example).
>
> When does the jurying actually begin?
>
Russell, unless you have inexperienced jurors and/or
inexperienced coordinators (in which case all bets
are off) here is the procedure:
The slides come in and are listed and filed in slide trays.
Each slide has a number, they are not filed by name and
in fact names are not what the juror sees.
After the deadline (usually plus a few extra days for
the late arrivals), the final slides are added to the slide
trays, and the trays given or shipped to the juror. The
juror has a deadline for getting the selected works and
the entire collection of slides back to the coordinators.
The selected works will have been removed from the
trays and placed in an empty tray(s), so that the coordinators
know which is what. Then the coordinators take the selected
slides, pair them with the proper entries, and send a letter to
those selected, detailing which piece(s) should be shipped
to the exhibition site, with times of delivery etc. After that
is done, those who were not selected are notified, and
their slides returned. The procedure is slightly different
if work is entered digitally.
The juror's selection process is usually this: a quick run
through all the slides. Then, a slightly slower one, making
initial selections. Then, again and again until the number
of slides for the exhibit has been reached, and those that
for whatever reason are deleted. Some jurors are really
quick, and some take a long time. However, in most cases
the range of work is so broad that initial selections are
quick and the time consuming part is choosing which to
delete of "close" work. There's always a small group of
really outstanding work, and a group of "not ready for
prime time", and then a middle ground where the hard
selections are made.
regards
Dannon Rhudy
Snail Scott on fri 15 sep 06
On Sep 14, 2006, at 5:27 PM, Russel Fouts wrote:
> When there is a call for entries and they say that the deadline is
> October 31st (for example).
>
> When does the jurying actually begin?
>
> Do they jury the entries as they come in and then judge futher
> entries as being strong enough to displace already chosen entries or
> does the jurying actually start at a preset date after the deadline
> when they have all the entries?
I've never heard of a real show jurying entries
until after the deadline. For one thing, most
reputable shows aren't juried by the organizer,
but by an invited juror, and they aren't going to
be forwarding the entries to their illustrious
juror(s) in dribs and drabs; they'll wait and put
a complete packet together. Even if the juror(s)
are local, they aren't gonna drop in daily to see
what's arrived; they'll wait and do it efficiently -
all at once.
It's a pain in the ass to set up slides for viewing,
and not all that convenient to look at digital
stuff, either. It only makes sense for busy people
to get all the entries together for one session.
Shows juried by multiple jurors may or may
not have all the jurors in the room together to
discuss the entries, but each juror will certainly
see all the entries en masse.
If you are concerned about how soon your
packet arrives, don't be. Make sure there's plenty
of time for the postal service to do its thing, if it's
an 'arrive by' deadline, but early entries have no
advantage. Entries that arrive on the last day
are a little tough on the organizer, though, as
most entries arrive then! Myself, I do tend to wait
'til close to the deadline, so that I'll have heard
back from other shows I've entered and I'll know
better which pieces I have available, and reuse
the same slides.
Actual jurying may take place any time after
the deadline, but usually within a week or two.
There is usually some lag, to allow the staff to
put all the slides in carousels, for instance, and
to put a database of entries together. Many
show prospectuses will publish the date that
responses will be sent out, to help folks like
me plan how long to delay their other entries. ;)
-Snail Scott
Russel Fouts on fri 15 sep 06
When there is a call for entries and they say that the deadline is
October 31st (for example).
When does the jurying actually begin?
Do they jury the entries as they come in and then judge futher
entries as being strong enough to displace already chosen entries or
does the jurying actually start at a preset date after the deadline
when they have all the entries?
Why do I have a strong sense that the answer is "it depends". ;-)
Russel
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