Ivy Glasgow on sat 23 sep 06
As of yesterday, I am the proud new owner of a vintage (1986!) PM-100. I've
been waiting for this thing to finally arrive for more than 6 weeks, so you
bet I unwrapped it and enlisted the neighbors to wrassle it off of the
pallet and into place asap. After a few congratulatory brews and a few
rounds of "Whut is that thang?", I decided to give it a go. And discovered
that I had to do some electrical work before its trial run. So, I re-wired
its plug, added a new circuit breaker and wall outlet for it, then plugged
it in and fired it up (empty). Everything appears to run, and turn, and so
on. But man is that thing LOUD! I've never been around a PP before, so I am
wondering if it is just the normal noises of the motor and chain or if
something's not right. How loud are these things supposed to be? Like,
weed-wacker loud, lawnmower loud, Bobcat loud or bulldozer loud?
I contacted Peter Pugger on Friday for a manual and a little technical help,
but I forgot to ask about the noise...
Next question I forgot to ask the PP tech- Does the hopper have to be locked
down in order for the machine to work right, or will it stay closed even if
not locked? The doohickey that locks down the handle is missing. I'll
replace it soon, but I am itching to get my new toy going in the meantime. I
have a couple storage bins full of native clay waiting to be mixed up, and
plenty of scrap to reclaim too.
This machine is obviously long in the tooth and well-used, but I got an
awesome deal on it, so I have no complaints. With the money I saved over a
new one I can afford a repair or two (or ten) and still come out WAY ahead.
Maybe even buy that hunting rifle I've had my eye on.
Yeeha!!
Woohoo!!
-Ivy G.
(Potter/Redneck)
Cindy Reed on sat 23 sep 06
Ivy,
If it's similar to the one we have a school the doohicky will have to be
there because as it mixes, it will most likely push the lid up without it
which will cause it to shut off automatically.
Cindy
On 9/23/06 6:38 PM, "Ivy Glasgow" wrote:
> As of yesterday, I am the proud new owner of a vintage (1986!) PM-100. I've
> been waiting for this thing to finally arrive for more than 6 weeks, so you
> bet I unwrapped it and enlisted the neighbors to wrassle it off of the
> pallet and into place asap. After a few congratulatory brews and a few
> rounds of "Whut is that thang?", I decided to give it a go. And discovered
> that I had to do some electrical work before its trial run. So, I re-wired
> its plug, added a new circuit breaker and wall outlet for it, then plugged
> it in and fired it up (empty). Everything appears to run, and turn, and so
> on. But man is that thing LOUD! I've never been around a PP before, so I am
> wondering if it is just the normal noises of the motor and chain or if
> something's not right. How loud are these things supposed to be? Like,
> weed-wacker loud, lawnmower loud, Bobcat loud or bulldozer loud?
>
> I contacted Peter Pugger on Friday for a manual and a little technical help,
> but I forgot to ask about the noise...
> Next question I forgot to ask the PP tech- Does the hopper have to be locked
> down in order for the machine to work right, or will it stay closed even if
> not locked? The doohickey that locks down the handle is missing. I'll
> replace it soon, but I am itching to get my new toy going in the meantime. I
> have a couple storage bins full of native clay waiting to be mixed up, and
> plenty of scrap to reclaim too.
>
> This machine is obviously long in the tooth and well-used, but I got an
> awesome deal on it, so I have no complaints. With the money I saved over a
> new one I can afford a repair or two (or ten) and still come out WAY ahead.
> Maybe even buy that hunting rifle I've had my eye on.
>
> Yeeha!!
> Woohoo!!
> -Ivy G.
> (Potter/Redneck)
>
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Ivy Glasgow on sun 24 sep 06
>
>From: "Ivy Glasgow"
>How loud are these things supposed to be? Like,
>> weed-wacker loud, lawnmower loud, Bobcat loud or bulldozer loud?
>
> This one I cannot do as it is so old, my new one is fairly quiet,
>
>Does the hopper have to be locked
>> down in order for the machine to work right, or will it stay closed even if
>> not locked?
>
> The door does not have to be locked - if it is like the modern ones there
>is a safety cut out that engages with the door closed so that you cannot
>get your fingers in - this might be worth checking. When it is turning
>open the door and see when it cuts out. However when mixing it is likely
>that the clay will try to push the door open, you can hold it down though
>or if a vacuum model give it a squirt of vacuum.
Thanks for the info. Looks like this one is so old that it doesn't have the
safety shut-off or a vacuum. I think I'd better wait for mixing till I can
get the door lock thingie. Probably between myself and my ingenious
neighbor's welding rig I can fab one up tomorrow.
I opened the motor box and looked in there today. I found that the fan was
rubbing on the fan housing, contributing most of the amazing amount of
noise. I fixed that, and now it is more like roller-coaster loud. The
bearings and chain look old and greasy but seem to be in OK condition. If
all this thing really needs is a door thingie and a new plug, I'm going to
be laughing all the way to the bank....!
-Ivy G
(Potter/Welder)
Alistair Gillies on sun 24 sep 06
Below, amid,
From: "Ivy Glasgow"
How loud are these things supposed to be? Like,
> weed-wacker loud, lawnmower loud, Bobcat loud or bulldozer loud?
This one I cannot do as it is so old, my new one is fairly quiet,
Does the hopper have to be locked
> down in order for the machine to work right, or will it stay closed =
even if
> not locked?=20
The door does not have to be locked - if it is like the modern ones =
there is a safety cut out that engages with the door closed so that you =
cannot get your fingers in - this might be worth checking. When it is =
turning open the door and see when it cuts out. However when mixing it =
is likely that the clay will try to push the door open, you can hold it =
down though or if a vacuum model give it a squirt of vacuum.
Alistair
Ironbridge Gorge, Shropshire, England
Bruce Girrell on mon 25 sep 06
Any pugmill is a fairly noisy device. The vacuum pump on the Peter Pugger (a
diaphragm type vacuum pump) is exceptionally noisy.
The hopper door on my machine does not stay closed when the machine is
running without the locking device. A safety device will shut off the
machine if the hopper door opens. The locking device consists only of a set
of Vise Grip pliers welded in a suitable position.
If you need a picture, let me know.
Bruce Girrell
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