Janine Roubik on tue 26 sep 06
wine skins
If there are unofficial rules pertaining to what a new person may ask and how they may word it, maybe that should be emailed to the "newbies" along with all the instructions about how to operate the actual listserv. (which by the way, is hard to find when you sign up for clayart - and probably why people ask about how to change to digest about once a week) Yes, there are AWESOME experts on here, and yes they are all very generous with their knowledge. Maybe "Mr Brown glaze" is asking because books are expensive and libraries don't always carry ceramic books. Maybe he's asking a deliberately vauge question just to see the variation of answers he gets. Maybe he doesn't know where to look. Did anyone suggest a very good basic glaze book to this guy? How much do you have to know to be on here? Last post I got back someone suggested I did a Currie grid. I'll admit right now that I was afraid to ask how to do that because I was afraid of an answer like this one - and
decided to ask a friend who told me a book to look in without making me feel stupid. Not every school teaches the same stuff in the same ways. And some people can't even go to school for ceramics. I think people join clayart because it's a place for discussion answers and questions from many many people all over the world. And that is a beautiful thing. I don't want to start a fight with anyone, but I just thought it would make me feel really bad if someone reacted this way to a question that I had asked. And new people are going to be full to the brim with questions.
Always for the underdog,
Janine
Go Packers.
Lili Krakowski wrote:
1.Ok. An Inquirer just asked for a brown c.10 glaze. Last week, same
Inquirer asked how to raise a c.6 glaze with 7% copper carb. and .8% cobalt
carb. from an electric fired glaze to a c.10 reduction. I know very little
about c.10 reduction but have/had serious doubts that 7% copper carb. would
create anything good at c. 10 R. It did seem to me Inquirer had done no
homework, and had little idea what exactly was involved. If I remember
correctly Steve Slatin gave a terse reply.
As brown glazes are THE easiest on earth to get, and the quickest skimming
of the texts tells/shows why, I again get the impression the Inquirer has
made no effort to find his own answers.
Wicked Witch that I sound, I would like to share this with Newbies. This
group--which has several real, real, real actual glaze experts on it, is
hugely generous with recipes and advice. But it behooves those who ask for
recipes to make some sort of showing that they actually have looked up some
basic answers and aquired some basic knowledge. The other day someone (NO
names) explained how he had worked on some new-to-him glazes, and what he
was interested in, and I gave him some offlist info, and will post some
recipes.
But when someone just throws out a request for a recipe, just like that, it
is very very likely that s/he will be met by stony silence.
2. I once saw a demo that impressed me! The pot--a jar, really-- was thrown
very thick--but not really formed. At about two/three pulls from final form
the impressions were made. Then the left hand, using a rib, pushed the
walls out--going from vertical jar to a roundish, let-us-call-it-teapot
shape. Only the foot and rim were touched by the right hand. The
demonstrator also planed some pots and then expanded them.
3. As many clay pots originally were cheap knock-offs of similar containers
made with costlier materials, is it not possible pointy footed jars were
cheap knock-offs of wine skins?
Lili Krakowski
Be of good courage
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