L. P. Skeen on sun 1 oct 06
Meryl, Axner used to sell a package of paper pulp designed for adding to =
an existing claybody. Check their web page.
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----- Original Message -----=20
From: Meryl Ruth=20
At first I had been using a paperclay that I got from Axner. Worked =
great. But I live here in Maine and can't find a supplier. Very costly =
shipping from Florida.
Gay Judson on sun 1 oct 06
I took a workshop with Jerry Bennett who is in Pennsylvania. He highly
recommends using the linter over toilet paper. In his workshop we mixed
about 1/4 of a 5 gallon bucket of the linter, soaked it in water,(no boiling
water)added 25# porcelain clay and mixed and mixed and mixed with a drill
mixer till it was well combined--no lumps. Worked great. He also
recommends patting out sheets of the left over paperclay and drying on
racks. Then store in a dark plastic bag. When you want to use it, just
soak again in water. You are set to go. You can find Jerry on the web and
he is very friendly and
helpful! Good luck, Gay Judson
Meryl Ruth on sun 1 oct 06
Hi All,=20
You are all so helpful. I so appreciate everything I am learning from =
you.=20
At this point I am exclusively using some form of paperclay. At first I =
had been using a paperclay that I got from Axner. Worked great. But I =
live here in Maine and can't find a supplier. Very costly shipping from =
Florida.=20
I am wanting to make my own paperclay perhaps using a porcelain cone 6 =
clay body. After researching this I have ordered cotton linter to use =
as the paper additive. To avoid mold which was very high with the =
paperclay I have been using.=20
My question is this: using cotton linter, how much do I use in relation =
to how much of the porcelain? I am thinking that I will shred the cotton =
linter and soak it in boiling water then put it through a sieve. I have =
a lot of porcelain slip but then I am not sure where to go from there. =
How much of these two products do I add together? Is the mixture the =
same as with other papers? A 1 to 4 ratio?=20
I have new works made entirely from stoneware paperclay. Please see: Sea =
Gir-Raft, Twig Tea Pouch and The Emperor's Penguin Purse on line: =
http://www.merylruth.com At shows and galleries I am calling these =
pieces either stoneware and/or porcelain and don't refer to these pieces =
anymore as having been made with paperclay. I appreciate this suggesting =
which was given to me from clayart. =20
Thanks for your help!=20
Regards,
Meryl Ruth, Porcelain Grace
http://www.merylruth.com
Tara Mooney on sun 1 oct 06
Hi Meryl,
I took a workshop a few years ago with Rosanne Gault.
We used toilet paper. No boiling, no sieving, just mixing.
You should really check out one of her books.
I am sure it will answer all of you questions.
I love your work!
Tara
On Oct 1, 2006, at 12:51 PM, Meryl Ruth wrote:
> Hi All,
> You are all so helpful. I so appreciate everything I am learning from
> you.
>
> At this point I am exclusively using some form of paperclay. At first
> I had been using a paperclay that I got from Axner. Worked great. But
> I live here in Maine and can't find a supplier. Very costly shipping
> from Florida.
>
> I am wanting to make my own paperclay perhaps using a porcelain cone 6
> clay body. After researching this I have ordered cotton linter to use
> as the paper additive. To avoid mold which was very high with the
> paperclay I have been using.
>
> My question is this: using cotton linter, how much do I use in
> relation to how much of the porcelain? I am thinking that I will shred
> the cotton linter and soak it in boiling water then put it through a
> sieve. I have a lot of porcelain slip but then I am not sure where to
> go from there. How much of these two products do I add together? Is
> the mixture the same as with other papers? A 1 to 4 ratio?
>
> I have new works made entirely from stoneware paperclay. Please see:
> Sea Gir-Raft, Twig Tea Pouch and The Emperor's Penguin Purse on line:
> http://www.merylruth.com At shows and galleries I am calling these
> pieces either stoneware and/or porcelain and don't refer to these
> pieces anymore as having been made with paperclay. I appreciate this
> suggesting which was given to me from clayart.
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Regards,
> Meryl Ruth, Porcelain Grace
> http://www.merylruth.com
>
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Andrew Lubow on mon 2 oct 06
A while back I got this reply from Standard Ceramics. It may be a good=
starting off point for you.=0D=0A=0D=0AShred 1 part toilet paper with=
2 parts hot water in bowl.=0D=0ALet soak until paper breaks up in wat=
er.=0D=0ABlend for 1 minute with an immersion blender or in a drink bl=
ender.=0D=0ADrain in strainer=0D=0AMix 1 part drained paper with 3 par=
ts slip( by volume) and spread on plaster =0D=0Awedging board to thick=
en.=0D=0AWedge.=0D=0AClay has same firing range as slip used. Glaze f=
it should be the same.=0D=0A=
kelley40 on mon 2 oct 06
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"We used toilet paper. No boiling, no sieving, just mixing."
I started using shredded toilet paper back in the 80's. long before the new
hype. I just took a roll and shredded the pieces. I then put them in a
blender adding no water, The fluff was then wedged into very moist clay
like that just out of a pug mill for a few days. I spritz the clay with a
combination of 1 tbsp of bleach with 10 tbsp of clean water.
Then I make arches on a board and cover with plastic. I let that sit for a
few days so the clay and paper can marry. I then rewedge it into balls and
bag it in a clean plastic bag. I try to use my paper clay within a week or
two.
I have never had a problem with the stench that others I know have reported
with the linen and pulp methods.
Now I have another friend that has a cross shredder. She wedges the little
shredded pieces of paper from the shredder into freshly pugged clay. She
however is doing very large sculptures and not worried about fine detail.
Well that's my input... I have never bought commercial paper clay, I think
toilet paper makes great ceramic flowers and detail work.
Marcia Selsor on mon 2 oct 06
When I make my paper clay I use cellulose fiber even though I have an
ample supply still of linter paper.
When I did use the linter paper , it calls for a good soaking after
shredding. Then I beat it in a beater made with a 1/4 hp motor on a
home made stand that is the right height for the blades to fit into a
5 gallon bucket.
Then I screen the paper with a window screen sieve and make
grapefruit size balls for storing. I add the balls to water in my
soldner mixer before adding the dry materials.
If you plan to add the pulp to your existing slip, try to estimate
how much dry clay is in the slip...60% maybe? Then add by estimated
volume.
When mixing to dry quantities you can add up to 30% pulp. Try 15% by
eye with your slip or less I you like. It is best to experiment. I
have also dried the mixture into sheets on plaster slabs.
To avoid mold, put a little bleach in the water.
If you have any questions, email me.
Marcia Selsor
http://marciaselsor.com
On Oct 1, 2006, at 11:51 AM, Meryl Ruth wrote:
> Hi All,
> You are all so helpful. I so appreciate everything I am learning
> from you.
>
> At this point I am exclusively using some form of paperclay. At
> first I had been using a paperclay that I got from Axner. Worked
> great. But I live here in Maine and can't find a supplier. Very
> costly shipping from Florida.
>
> I am wanting to make my own paperclay perhaps using a porcelain
> cone 6 clay body. After researching this I have ordered cotton
> linter to use as the paper additive. To avoid mold which was very
> high with the paperclay I have been using.
>
> My question is this: using cotton linter, how much do I use in
> relation to how much of the porcelain? I am thinking that I will
> shred the cotton linter and soak it in boiling water then put it
> through a sieve. I have a lot of porcelain slip but then I am not
> sure where to go from there. How much of these two products do I
> add together? Is the mixture the same as with other papers? A 1 to
> 4 ratio?
>
> Regards,
> Meryl Ruth, Porcelain Grace
> http://www.merylruth.com
>
> __
Snail Scott on mon 2 oct 06
On Oct 1, 2006, at 11:51 AM, Meryl Ruth wrote:
> I am thinking that I will shred the cotton linter and soak it in
> boiling water then put it through a sieve.
Just soak the fiber and stir it. Use plenty of water. Use
the sieve to extract the fiber from the water.
> I have a lot of porcelain slip but then I am not sure where to go from
> there. How much of these two products do I add together?
Mixing wet paper with slip will give you a slimy slurry that
will have to be dried, though it is easy to mix. Adding
dry clay ingredients to the wet paper will often give pretty
close to the right moisture level.
Working with damp paper is one of the reasons it's hard
to state an exact ratio of clay to paper. If you started with
a measured quantity of dry paper, though, you can use
that weight to figure it out.
How much paper is up to you. I don't know how much
Axner's uses, but 10-15% is probably a good starting
point. More radical effects can be achieved with higher
percentages, but lower percentages will still have some
effect.
-Snail
Marcia Selsor on tue 3 oct 06
When I make my paper clay I use cellulose fiber even though I have an
ample supply still of linter paper.
When I did use the linter paper , it calls for a good soaking after
shredding. Then I beat it in a beater made with a 1/4 hp motor on a
home made stand that is the right height for the blades to fit into a
5 gallon bucket.
Then I screen the paper with a window screen sieve and make
grapefruit size balls for storing. I add the balls to water in my
soldner mixer before adding the dry materials.
If you plan to add the pulp to your existing slip, try to estimate
how much dry clay is in the slip...60% maybe? Then add by estimated
volume.
When mixing to dry quantities you can add up to 30% pulp. Try 15% by
eye with your slip or less I you like. It is best to experiment. I
have also dried the mixture into sheets on plaster slabs.
To avoid mold, put a little bleach in the water.
If you have any questions, email me.
Marcia Selsor
http://marciaselsor.com
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