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env. friendly barium glazes - now,

updated thu 9 nov 06

 

pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on wed 8 nov 06

collapseings and...prolapseings even for all I know...

Hi Lee,


I might have missed something here..but, just what
is the objection to these items and their ratios?

What is the reasonioning to decide what is 'waste'
in this context?

What is the over-view of the uses for these
materials, to whose gathering 'waste' is
attributed?

My only experience with serching for Gold, was
half-a-day of easy fun, me in a small River of
clear gently flowing Water, swimming with a diving
mask, wielding Tweezers, fanning silts with my
palm from under rocks I would move, or at the
bases of Rackes too large for me to move, and
filling most of a small vial with small Gold
flakes and some little nuggets.

Had I done that for an 'average' 40 hour week, and
had some more practice, I'd have made ten or
twenty or fifty times what my friend's jobs paid,
and the activity made no, zero, nada 'waste' at
all.

So...what are we talking about?

What is the 'waste' of people's general liveing
anyway?

What was the waste of this chump's book?

What is the waste of whatever people 'do' to
obtain the monsy they spend for the book?

On and on...


..sigh...


Phil
el vee

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Love"

> Here are some figures related to environmental
impact, from Jared
> Diamond's Collaspe:
>
> Waste to ore ratios:
>
> oil 1:1 (waste is mostly water)
> coal 1:1
> copper 400:1
> gold 5,000,000:1
>
>
>
> Please VOTE everyone. It is your licenses to
bitch!
>
> --
> Lee in Mashiko, Japan

Frances Howard on wed 8 nov 06

collapseings and...prolapseings even for all I know...

Hi Phil,
Panning for gold! El Dorado! A fine afternoon can be had with plastic pan
and waders followed up with a barbecue on the river bank all the while
comparing oneself with Jason and the Golden Fleece. There are many gold
mines here in Nova Scotia, all bearing just a very little gold, nothing
commercially viable any more, except to the small band of amateur
prospectors who are all on the verge of the big strike, all looking at every
hill with a fanatic and gleaming eye, all calculating out the machinery and
possible government grants available to reduce said hill to rubble from
which they can extricate one ounce of gold. They stride fearlessly through
the province following quartz seams and always willing to show you their
findings, tiny yellow flecks in tiny vials. Sadly I am afraid that Lee is
right, and reality is a flattened landscape with mercury polluted streams,
definitely a 5 million to one impact. I must say though, that I prefer
your scenario, would that it were so!
Frances Howard.
PS I once found a largish rick which is now in the garden which has gold in
it. It is smaller than the head of a pin...
----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: env. friendly barium glazes - Now, collapseings
and...prolapseings even for all I know...


> Hi Lee,
>
>
> I might have missed something here..but, just what
> is the objection to these items and their ratios?
>
> What is the reasonioning to decide what is 'waste'
> in this context?
>
> What is the over-view of the uses for these
> materials, to whose gathering 'waste' is
> attributed?
>
> My only experience with serching for Gold, was
> half-a-day of easy fun, me in a small River of
> clear gently flowing Water, swimming with a diving
> mask, wielding Tweezers, fanning silts with my
> palm from under rocks I would move, or at the
> bases of Rackes too large for me to move, and
> filling most of a small vial with small Gold
> flakes and some little nuggets.
>
> Had I done that for an 'average' 40 hour week, and
> had some more practice, I'd have made ten or
> twenty or fifty times what my friend's jobs paid,
> and the activity made no, zero, nada 'waste' at
> all.
>
> So...what are we talking about?
>
> What is the 'waste' of people's general liveing
> anyway?
>
> What was the waste of this chump's book?
>
> What is the waste of whatever people 'do' to
> obtain the monsy they spend for the book?
>
> On and on...
>
>
> ..sigh...
>
>
> Phil
> el vee
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lee Love"
>
>> Here are some figures related to environmental
> impact, from Jared
>> Diamond's Collaspe:
>>
>> Waste to ore ratios:
>>
>> oil 1:1 (waste is mostly water)
>> coal 1:1
>> copper 400:1
>> gold 5,000,000:1
>>
>>
>>
>> Please VOTE everyone. It is your licenses to
> bitch!
>>
>> --
>> Lee in Mashiko, Japan
>
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