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searching for firetruck red oxidation glaze

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Heloisa Nunes on thu 9 nov 06


Hello, clayarters!!!
Please, I searched the archives but could not find firetruck more or less
red. I found one in bayle's cone 6 book but it has barium.
I would prefer it to be food safe. I have not analysed it yet to see if it
is stable. Has anyone tryied that with strontium sub?
Any sugestions as to where to begin?
Thank you so much!!!!
Heloisa Nunes,
Sao Paulo, Brazil

Hilltop Pottery on thu 9 nov 06


Heloisa

If youdon't want to make your own, there is a red glaze that is food
safe....expensive at Bailey's $20 a pint but with 3 coats or a heavy
spray or long dip it is pretty. It is:

Amaco, Sahara Liquid HF Series #HF-56 and is Red Gloss. It is
dinnerware safe. I bought it from the cone 6 section and fire it to
cone 6. I have found a rapid cool down makes the color better. Long
cool down it's more brick red. Hope this helps.

Nancy

Heloisa Nunes wrote:
> Hello, clayarters!!!
> Please, I searched the archives but could not find firetruck more or less
> red. I found one in bayle's cone 6 book but it has barium.
> I would prefer it to be food safe. I have not analysed it yet to see
> if it
> is stable. Has anyone tryied that with strontium sub?
> Any sugestions as to where to begin?
> Thank you so much!!!!
> Heloisa Nunes,
> Sao Paulo, Brazil
>
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Snail Scott on thu 9 nov 06


At 11:34 AM 11/9/2006 -0200, you wrote:
>...could not find firetruck more or less
>red. I found one in bayle's cone 6 book but it has barium.
>I would prefer it to be food safe. I have not analysed it yet to see if it
>is stable. Has anyone tryied that with strontium sub?


I don't know this recipe, but strontium
tends to give muted, subtle colors
compared with barium.

To get a 'firetruck red' at ^6, you may
have to use the new zirconium-encapulated
stains. They should work consistently in
many different glaze bases. Encapsulation
works both ways, protecting the colorant
from its surroundings, and protecting its
surroundings from the colorant.

Still, possibly best to use a different
glaze for the food-contact areas.

-Snail

Eleanora Eden on fri 10 nov 06


Heloisa,

Amaco velvet underglaze series also has two very good reds. Not very much
cheaper than the price below if you are buying singly. But Amaco gives
40% off on a dozen pints IF YOU LET THEM KNOW YOU ARE A BUSINESS.
They won't ask.

Eleanora


>Heloisa
>
>If youdon't want to make your own, there is a red glaze that is food
>safe....expensive at Bailey's $20 a pint but with 3 coats or a heavy
>spray or long dip it is pretty. It is:
>
>Amaco, Sahara Liquid HF Series #HF-56 and is Red Gloss. It is
>dinnerware safe. I bought it from the cone 6 section and fire it to
>cone 6. I have found a rapid cool down makes the color better. Long
>cool down it's more brick red. Hope this helps.
>
>Nancy
>
>Heloisa Nunes wrote:
>>Hello, clayarters!!!
>>Please, I searched the archives but could not find firetruck more or less
>>red. I found one in bayle's cone 6 book but it has barium.
>>I would prefer it to be food safe. I have not analysed it yet to see
>>if it
>>is stable. Has anyone tryied that with strontium sub?
>>Any sugestions as to where to begin?
>>Thank you so much!!!!
>>Heloisa Nunes,
>>Sao Paulo, Brazil
>>
>>______________________________________________________________________________
>>
>>Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>>
>>You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
>>settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>>
>>Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
>>melpots@pclink.com.
>>
>
>______________________________________________________________________________
>Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
>You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
>settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
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Heloisa Nunes on sat 11 nov 06


Thank you so much for all the suggestions.
I will look into the products that all of you suggested. Since I am in
Brazil, unfortunatelly they sometimes are a little too expensive for
production pieces but I could still have fun once in a while with a special
piece.
I am using Lana Wilson's burgundy for wine color, which people here like
very much. I will keep you posted if I find a different recipe.
I will look into Mason Stains here too. They probably are not too expensive.
I just would have to check for toxicity.
Thank you again, you all always come to the rescue!!!

All the best,
Heloisa Nunes,
São Paulo, Brazil

Timothy Joko-Veltman on sat 11 nov 06


On 11/11/06, Heloisa Nunes wrote:

I will look into Mason Stains here too. They probably are not too expensive.
> I just would have to check for toxicity.
> Thank you again, you all always come to the rescue!!!

Heloisa,

PSH Brasil has a fairly wide variety of Mason Stains. If you need
their contact info, just let me know.

Tim