Timothy Joko-Veltman on fri 24 nov 06
This last Sunday, my mentor passed away. Sometimes, it's hard to go
to work and have to tell the students, but I am finding that
continuing her "good work begun in me" is one of the best ways to
mourn, as well as honour her memory.
Today, I was approached by the family with the request of formulating
a glaze using the cremated remains of my mentor in a special glaze.
My mentor really leaned on me when it came to glazes, and so ... not
only for the family, but also for myself, I would really like to do
this.
However, as you can imagine, it is a unique task, and I was wondering
if anyone has any thoughts to share, or any advice from those who may
have done something similar (beyond the obvious (ie., "It's bone
ash."), that is).
Thanks.
Tim
Nancy on sat 25 nov 06
Tim
I once read in the archives here about a man who made a special glaze
for a mug. It was using the bone ash from his beloved dog. If he
doesn't respond, take a peak at the archives and see if you can find
it. There's a lot of info there.
nancy
Timothy Joko-Veltman wrote:
> This last Sunday, my mentor passed away. Sometimes, it's hard to go
> to work and have to tell the students, but I am finding that
> continuing her "good work begun in me" is one of the best ways to
> mourn, as well as honour her memory.
>
> Today, I was approached by the family with the request of formulating
> a glaze using the cremated remains of my mentor in a special glaze.
> My mentor really leaned on me when it came to glazes, and so ... not
> only for the family, but also for myself, I would really like to do
> this.
>
> However, as you can imagine, it is a unique task, and I was wondering
> if anyone has any thoughts to share, or any advice from those who may
> have done something similar (beyond the obvious (ie., "It's bone
> ash."), that is).
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tim
>
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darrell calhoun on sat 25 nov 06
I've always been curious about this. Can you please keep us posted on the results?
Timothy Joko-Veltman wrote: This last Sunday, my mentor passed away. Sometimes, it's hard to go
to work and have to tell the students, but I am finding that
continuing her "good work begun in me" is one of the best ways to
mourn, as well as honour her memory.
Today, I was approached by the family with the request of formulating
a glaze using the cremated remains of my mentor in a special glaze.
My mentor really leaned on me when it came to glazes, and so ... not
only for the family, but also for myself, I would really like to do
this.
However, as you can imagine, it is a unique task, and I was wondering
if anyone has any thoughts to share, or any advice from those who may
have done something similar (beyond the obvious (ie., "It's bone
ash."), that is).
Thanks.
Tim
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Don Goodrich on sat 25 nov 06
Hi Tim,
What an honor and privilege to get such a request!
This has indeed been a topic of some ClayArt discussion
over the years. You can read a lot of it here:
http://tinyurl.com/yya53k
One that may be of particular interest is from Bill Edwards
(who I think has left the list) dated 10 August 2003,
under the topic Human Ash Glaze. The url for that post is:
http://lsv.ceramics.org/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind0308b&L=clayart&D=1&O=D&P=21854
[all of which is one line]
In my files I came upon the following, probably from a Clayart post,
that's supposedly a human ash analysis:
CaO 39.0%
P2O5 50.2%
K2O 4.8%
Na2O 3.8%
MgO 0.9%
SiO2 1.1%
Fe2O3 0.2%
ZnO 0.1%
LOI 94.8%
That LOI figure is rather high, so it may be for the whole human
rather than just the ash. If you have glaze software you can plug
this in as an ingredient and see how it computes with familiar
glazes.
Hope you're successful and all are pleased with the result.
Don Goodrich
AnnaLisaQ on sat 25 nov 06
Hello Tim,
I'm sincerely sorry to hear of the loss of your mentor.
Although a dog's cremated ashes are not what you're specifically talking
about in your post, I recall a studio pottery book from my local public
library where the book's author (a studio potter) dedicated a small chapter
to the subject of how the author took a very small portion of his dog's
ashes and made a special glaze (that he described as beautiful). He used
this very small batch of glaze on one special functional coffee cup. I'm
thinking it was a black glaze.
Unfortunately, I can't remember the author (I think it was a male author;
hence the use of "he/his" in my post), the name of the book, or the name of
the dog (I think it was maybe a labrador who was named after a day of the
week like "Sunday" based on the 1st day the dog arrived at the author's
studio). I'm pretty sure the author included the glaze recipe in that
chapter. Does anyone else recall the book/author/title?
It isn't the same question as what you're asking; and yet, perhaps the
canine bone ash glaze recipe from the book could give you a comparative
reference or a base glaze starting point? Sorry my post is vague. Its been
over a year since I borrowed and returned those library books. Perhaps my
post might prompt another Clayart member who has a copy of this book to
share the book title or author name?
Sincerely,
Annalisa Q.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Timothy Joko-Veltman"
To:
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 5:23 PM
Subject: Cremated Remains in a Glaze
> This last Sunday, my mentor passed away. Sometimes, it's hard to go
> to work and have to tell the students, but I am finding that
> continuing her "good work begun in me" is one of the best ways to
> mourn, as well as honour her memory.
>
> Today, I was approached by the family with the request of formulating
> a glaze using the cremated remains of my mentor in a special glaze.
> My mentor really leaned on me when it came to glazes, and so ... not
> only for the family, but also for myself, I would really like to do
> this.
>
> However, as you can imagine, it is a unique task, and I was wondering
> if anyone has any thoughts to share, or any advice from those who may
> have done something similar (beyond the obvious (ie., "It's bone
> ash."), that is).
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tim
>
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Dannon Rhudy on sat 25 nov 06
It is ash, and no doubt you could make an ash glaze of it -
potters have done so in the past. Make a test or two, and then just make
the pot and glaze. You might make more than one, and then the best can go
to the family.
regards
Dannon Rhludy
----- Original Message -----
Subject: Cremated Remains in a Glaze
> Today, I was approached by the family with the request of formulating
> a glaze using the cremated remains
Catherine on sat 25 nov 06
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Jim Murphy on mon 24 sep 01=0D
I found the following in the ClayArt archives. Hope it helps.=0D
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Catherine in Yuma, AZ=0D
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Jim Murphy on mon 24 sep 01=0D
> Recently, a dog owned by two dear friends of mine =0D
> passed away, and knowing that they were very attached =0D
> to it, offered to use some of the ash they got back =0D
> from the vet in a recipie for a few memorial mugs and =0D
> bowls. the recipie i had in mind was, I thought, in =0D
> the back of one of the pottery making illustrated =0D
> magazines. It was written by someone who went through =0D
> this very thing and he came up with a shiny black =0D
> glaze using 10% ash. =0D
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Gregg, =0D
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I believe you may be referring to Jeff Zamek's Cone 6 "Black Friday Glaze=
". =0D
The "Black Friday" article appears in the May 2001 Ceramics Monthly. Also=
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appears in his book "What Every Potter Should Know". =0D
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Good luck, =0D
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Jim Murphy =0D
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Valerie Johnson on mon 24 sep 01=0D
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I saw this recipe in the back of a new pottery book just a few weeks ago;=
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don't remember the author's name, sorry. It was called "Black Friday". =0D
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From: AnnaLisaQ=0D
Date: 11/25/06 22:07:26=0D
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG=0D
Subject: Re: Cremated Remains in a Glaze=0D
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Hello Tim,=0D
=0D
I'm sincerely sorry to hear of the loss of your mentor.=0D
=0D
Although a dog's cremated ashes are not what you're specifically talking=0D
about in your post, I recall a studio pottery book from my local public=0D
library where the book's author (a studio potter) dedicated a small chapt=
er=0D
to the subject of how the author took a very small portion of his dog's=0D
ashes and made a special glaze (that he described as beautiful). He used=
=0D
this very small batch of glaze on one special functional coffee cup. I'm=
=0D
thinking it was a black glaze.=0D
=0D
Unfortunately, I can't remember the author (I think it was a male author;=
=0D
hence the use of "he/his" in my post), the name of the book, or the name =
of=0D
the dog (I think it was maybe a labrador who was named after a day of the=
=0D
week like "Sunday" based on the 1st day the dog arrived at the author's=0D
studio). I'm pretty sure the author included the glaze recipe in that=0D
chapter. Does anyone else recall the book/author/title?=0D
=0D
It isn't the same question as what you're asking; and yet, perhaps the=0D
canine bone ash glaze recipe from the book could give you a comparative=0D
reference or a base glaze starting point? Sorry my post is vague. Its b=
een=0D
over a year since I borrowed and returned those library books. Perhaps m=
y=0D
post might prompt another Clayart member who has a copy of this book to=0D
share the book title or author name?=0D
=0D
Sincerely,=0D
Annalisa Q.=0D
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To: =0D
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 5:23 PM=0D
Subject: Cremated Remains in a Glaze=0D
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> This last Sunday, my mentor passed away. Sometimes, it's hard to go=0D
> to work and have to tell the students, but I am finding that=0D
> continuing her "good work begun in me" is one of the best ways to=0D
> mourn, as well as honour her memory.=0D
>=0D
> Today, I was approached by the family with the request of formulating=0D
> a glaze using the cremated remains of my mentor in a special glaze.=0D
> My mentor really leaned on me when it came to glazes, and so ... not=0D
> only for the family, but also for myself, I would really like to do=0D
> this.=0D
>=0D
> However, as you can imagine, it is a unique task, and I was wondering=0D
> if anyone has any thoughts to share, or any advice from those who may=0D
> have done something similar (beyond the obvious (ie., "It's bone=0D
> ash."), that is).=0D
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> Thanks.=0D
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> Tim=0D
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>
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sacredclay on sat 25 nov 06
Tim, what a terrific honor that you were asked to do. It's one of the
last homage you can pay to your mentor and I see nothing ghoulish about
it. Go for it. Technically, I've no experience to guide you but I'm
sure others will.Sorry for your loss, too. He sounded like a great man.
You might want to identiy the pots as having his ashes.Kathryn in NC
Inua on sat 25 nov 06
Jeff Zamek, in his book "What Every Potter Should Know" - in the last
chapter I think - talks a bit of his faithful black dog - Friday. When
his pal passed away, Jeff had Friday cremated and used his remains in a
calcium based glaze to glaze a special coffee mug by which to remember
his pet. He named the glaze "Black Friday". I have used the glaze myself
and it is a nice color and texture. I used "store bought" bone ash for
the calcium
Bone ash is bone ash I suppose. But it is needed for the calcium based
glaze.
Regards,
John Rodgers
Chelsea, AL
Timothy Joko-Veltman wrote:
> This last Sunday, my mentor passed away. Sometimes, it's hard to go
> to work and have to tell the students, but I am finding that
> continuing her "good work begun in me" is one of the best ways to
> mourn, as well as honour her memory.
>
> Today, I was approached by the family with the request of formulating
> a glaze using the cremated remains of my mentor in a special glaze.
> My mentor really leaned on me when it came to glazes, and so ... not
> only for the family, but also for myself, I would really like to do
> this.
>
> However, as you can imagine, it is a unique task, and I was wondering
> if anyone has any thoughts to share, or any advice from those who may
> have done something similar (beyond the obvious (ie., "It's bone
> ash."), that is).
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tim
>
> ______________________________________________________________________________
>
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Ian Currie on sun 26 nov 06
Hi Tim
You have a sobering task! I will deal just with the technology... As
I didn't know your mentor there is not much else I can offer apart
from my sympathy.
If you want to get just a little of the bone ash into the glaze that
is simple, and you could probably add perhaps 5% to lots of your
usual glazes. Although bone ash has some fluxing action (because of
the CaO) it is not a strong flux. The phosphate component is a glass
former and counteracts the fluxing action of the CaO. Bone ash will
therefore stiffen your glaze in most cases. It will also tend to
opacify the glaze, and can be a cause of crawling and blistering
(Hamer & Hamer - and also from my own research).
If on the other hand you wish to get as much of the bone ash as
possible into a glaze then I would use my Grid Method. With this
method you choose a set of flux materials (including the bone ash)
and try varying additions of kaolin and quartz to find the best
balance. You will find some possible starting points on p.94 (photos
on p.95) of my book: "Revealing Glazes - Using the Grid Method". If
you can't find a copy locally, you can obtain both my books from my
website:
http://ian.currie.to/
Like most websites it goes off the air occasionally, but always comes
back... if it doesn't work, try later, or e-mail me.
The Grid Method is ideal for this sort of problem. It efficiently
produces the fullest range of possible combinations (with your chosen
set of flux materials) to show you in one try where it works and
where it doesn't, and to show you where you might wish to zero in and
try some fine tuning.
The other fluxes in your selection (and the relative proportions)
will determine the melting range for the glazes in the grid. If you
wish to do it at mid-fire or lower, with lots of bone ash, you will
need lots of frit or something like gerstley borate etc.
I was first introduced to high bone ash glazes by Hank Murrow. One
of his glazes that he calls "Cory's Weird" is listed on p.94....
along with the story of Cory Levins, the originator of the glaze.
This is for cone 10 and contains 32% of bone ash.
If you reply to this on Clayart, be sure to e-mail me directly with a
Cc, otherwise I might miss it.
Good luck... Ian
Ian Currie
"Mandala"
831 North Branch Road
Maryvale, Q. 4370
Australia
Ph: +61 7 4666 1237
http://ian.currie.to/
On 25/11/2006, at 8:23 AM, Timothy Joko-Veltman wrote:
> This last Sunday, my mentor passed away. Sometimes, it's hard to go
> to work and have to tell the students, but I am finding that
> continuing her "good work begun in me" is one of the best ways to
> mourn, as well as honour her memory.
>
> Today, I was approached by the family with the request of formulating
> a glaze using the cremated remains of my mentor in a special glaze.
> My mentor really leaned on me when it came to glazes, and so ... not
> only for the family, but also for myself, I would really like to do
> this.
>
> However, as you can imagine, it is a unique task, and I was wondering
> if anyone has any thoughts to share, or any advice from those who may
> have done something similar (beyond the obvious (ie., "It's bone
> ash."), that is).
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tim
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> __
Lee Love on sun 26 nov 06
I looked in the archives for you:
Audra Loyal on fri 17 nov 00
I just finished reading the book _What Every Potter Should Know_, by =
Jeff Zamek. One of the chapters is entitled "Black Friday" in which he =
gives a recipe for a glaze he made using bone ash from his beloved black =
Labrador Retriever. His dog was a beautiful blue-ish black color, and =
the glaze tries to come as close to that color as possible.=20
I hope I'm not breaking any rules by posting the glaze recipe here:
Black Friday Glaze Con 6/ox
Nepheline syenite 270x 20
Whiting 15
EPK 18
Ferro frit #3124 20
Flint 325x 17
Bone ash (Friday) 10
Mason black stain #6600 12
CMC 1%
Audra Loyal
Eugene OR
SU STANDING BEAR ^6 OX. (Bill Edwards)
-------------------------------------------------------
Wollastonite10.00
Silica 15.00
EPK Kaolin 20.00
G-200 Potash Feldspar 20.00
Ferro 3134 30.00
Bone Ash (Human) 5.00
--
Lee in Mashiko, Japan
http://potters.blogspot.com/
"Let the beauty we love be what we do." - Rumi
"When we all do better. We ALL do better." -Paul Wellstone
Donald Burroughs on mon 27 nov 06
I remembered reading about this topic in the letters section of Ceramics
Monthly. The month/yr. escapes me, but I distinctly remember that it was
not, I repeat, not a good idea. A fellow potter friend of mine explained
why some years later. He worked at a funeral home and of course did
cremations. An actual cremation does not reach a temperature high enough
to make the bones turn into ash. Reason: it would cost the funeral home
too much in fuel. Instead, what they do is take the ash residue of the
flesh and combine it with the bones which are ground/pulverized to dust.
Consequently, you don't have real ashes, but ash with bone dust. The bone
dust would probably have a high raw calcium and phosphorus content but not
in the ash sense as we know.
Donald Burroughs
Timothy Joko-Veltman on sun 3 dec 06
Just a quick word to express my thanks to all for the input.
Regards,
Tim
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