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slip covered twigs......

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Catherine on sun 17 dec 06


I've seen lace that's dipped in slip and fired. It's usually on little
statuettes.=0D
I'm wondering if anyone has done this with twigs. I want to use some =0D
as miniature tree-like additions on a piece that's in process. It would =
be =0D
perfect if the twig were to burn away leaving a bisqued skeleton. =0D
=0D
Would that qualify as the "bones" that have enjoyed recent popularity her=
e?=0D
Only jesting, that's all.=0D
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Catherine in AZ where the holiday preparations are catching up to me and =
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I am tired. My daughter in Denver sent our whole load of gifts via UPS t=
o
my =0D
old address from a year ago. I guess she's tired, too.

Ann Brink on sun 17 dec 06


Most likely as the clay dries and shrinks it will crack and fall off...too
bad. The lace works because it can compress a bit.
But it may work in a limited way if the plant material is green and is dried
slowly...wouldn't hurt to try.

I have tried this idea with the fronds (?) of our Norfolk Island Pine tree.
I dipped a piece about 6 inches long in slip. It held together just enough
to preserve the shape. I also dipped slices of a loofah sponge in thin slip.
When the membranes got wet they were able to move and compress. They were
very delicate after the bisque firing so I dipped them in a clear
glaze--that stabilized them. I now have some ceramic loofahs, haha ...don't
know what to do with them; perhaps put them in an assemblage of some kind.

Let us know if you have success with this.
Ann Brink in Lompoc CA...doing a glaze firing today. Unload tomorrow so
Tuesday I can UPS that last Christmas present out of here to Texas. Talk
about last minute.....

(mostly about pottery)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Catherine"
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Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 11:41 PM
Subject: Slip Covered Twigs......


I've seen lace that's dipped in slip and fired. It's usually on little
statuettes.
I'm wondering if anyone has done this with twigs. I want to use some
as miniature tree-like additions on a piece that's in process. It would be
perfect if the twig were to burn away leaving a bisqued skeleton.

Would that qualify as the "bones" that have enjoyed recent popularity here?
Only jesting, that's all.

Catherine in AZ where the holiday preparations are catching up to me and
I am tired. My daughter in Denver sent our whole load of gifts via UPS to
my
old address from a year ago. I guess she's tired, too.

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Snail Scott on sun 17 dec 06


-----Original Message-----
>From: Catherine
>I've seen lace that's dipped in slip and fired. It's usually on little
>statuettes.
>I'm wondering if anyone has done this with twigs. I want to use some
>as miniature tree-like additions on a piece that's in process. It would be
>perfect if the twig were to burn away leaving a bisqued skeleton.


Never tried this in clay, but saw a lot of attempts
to do this when I taught bronze casting - dipping
possibly burn-outable materials in investment to
make a 'lost-whatever' casting of it. Delicate
twigs will work, but bigger ones don't really burn
out well, and leave a lot of localized reduction
and ash behind. Since casting investment is (in
this case) a ceramic material, I suspect results
will be similar. Of course, the higher you fire,
the more complete the burnout, but watch out
for ash fluxing action on the thin slip.

-Snail

Paul G. Brinkmann on sun 17 dec 06


Catherine, some time back I also learned about dipping lace in slip, but
never yearned to try it. But was reading a magazine article how this man used
leaves from his nursery, and covered them with cement. He then painted them,
and they were very realistic showing the ridges, etc. and were very pretty..
I thought, why cant I do the same with slip, and began trying to dip
flowers in slip. I made a hook with thin wire, and stuck it through the stem of
the flower so I could hold it. The slip was to heavy for the flower and it
collapsed. I then tried leaves, larger ones, dried them between paper for
several weeks, then I coated them with slip. Had a little more luck with leaves.
I also buried flowers in sand, and after dried, coated them with slip. It
worked, but I need to work at it more. The flower I used is called a moon
flower. I almost looks like an Easter Lilly, but very thin. Come to think of
it, an Easter Lilly would probably work well, as they have a lot more body.
Need to experiment more with dried leave. Hope this gives you some ideas.
Paul Brinkmann, in the City of St. Anthony.

Sunny San Antonio.

Jeanette Harris on mon 18 dec 06


>-snip- The slip was to heavy for the flower and it
>collapsed. I then tried leaves, larger ones, dried them between paper for
>several weeks, then I coated them with slip. Had a little more
>luck with leaves.
>I also buried flowers in sand, and after dried, coated them with slip. It
>worked, but I need to work at it more.


Wouldn't it be easier to get a fine porcelain and just teach yourself
how to construct a flower using a good picture or a taken-apart real
one for a guide?
--


Jeanette Harris
Clay Engineer
Poulsbo WA

Catherine on thu 21 dec 06


Thanks to all for the info on firing slip-dipped twigs! As soon as I try=
it
out, probably after the holidays, I'll let you know how it goes. I'm usi=
ng
grape stems. Wonder if they're soaked, would they shrink along with the
clay? They're very spongy things.=0D
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My wishes to all for a joyous holiday season.=0D
Happy Hanukah and Merry Christmas.=0D
Remember that Judaism is the parent of Christianity.=0D
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Catherine in Yuma, AZ=0D
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-------Original Message-------=0D
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From: Ann Brink=0D
Date: 12/17/06 09:25:52=0D
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG=0D
Subject: Re: Slip Covered Twigs......=0D
=0D
Most likely as the clay dries and shrinks it will crack and fall off...to=
o=0D
bad. The lace works because it can compress a bit.=0D
But it may work in a limited way if the plant material is green and is dr=
ied=0D
slowly...wouldn't hurt to try. =0D
(mostly about pottery)=0D
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