Patrick Cross on wed 20 dec 06
My niece has ROLLING PIN on her Christmas list this year. With that in the
back of my noggin and while in my 'thinking room' this morning I had a
thought for a thickness specific little slab roller. I'm going to modify
one of my rolling pins by removing the handles and axle...then add an inline
skate wheel to either end of the roller. Then replace the handles. I need
to find/make a roller with a slightly smaller diameter than the inline skate
wheels...for say an ending result of a 3/8th inch slab. Of course for this
gizmo to work the slab needs to be the same or narrower width than the
roller. Just thought I'd throw this out for the group to chew on.
Patrick Cross (cone10soda)
Marcia Selsor on wed 20 dec 06
Maybe a pasta oller would work..those long skinny rolling pins. I
have seen them in some Italian kitchen supply stores in Philadelphia
4 or 5th and bainbridge. Don't know where you are located.
Marcia Selsor
On Dec 20, 2006, at 12:31 AM, Patrick Cross wrote:
> My niece has ROLLING PIN on her Christmas list this year. With
> that in the
> back of my noggin and while in my 'thinking room' this morning I had a
> thought for a thickness specific little slab roller. I'm going to
> modify
> one of my rolling pins by removing the handles and axle...then add
> an inline
> skate wheel to either end of the roller. Then replace the
> handles. I need
> to find/make a roller with a slightly smaller diameter than the
> inline skate
> wheels...for say an ending result of a 3/8th inch slab. Of course
> for this
> gizmo to work the slab needs to be the same or narrower width than the
> roller. Just thought I'd throw this out for the group to chew on.
>
> Patrick Cross (cone10soda)
>
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Nancy on wed 20 dec 06
Patrick
I have a LARGE professional bakers rolling pin that I bought on ebay for
about 20 bucks. Thing is heavy with a metal rod through the middle.
It's about 18" wide and 4" in diameter....now you have me thinking :)
Nancy
www.hilltoppottery.com
Patrick Cross wrote:
> My niece has ROLLING PIN on her Christmas list this year. With that
> in the
> back of my noggin and while in my 'thinking room' this morning I had a
> thought for a thickness specific little slab roller. I'm going to modify
> one of my rolling pins by removing the handles and axle...then add an
> inline
> skate wheel to either end of the roller. Then replace the handles. I
> need
> to find/make a roller with a slightly smaller diameter than the inline
> skate
> wheels...for say an ending result of a 3/8th inch slab. Of course for
> this
> gizmo to work the slab needs to be the same or narrower width than the
> roller. Just thought I'd throw this out for the group to chew on.
>
> Patrick Cross (cone10soda)
>
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Linda - Pacifica on wed 20 dec 06
Hi Patrick,
I watch the food channel from time to time, particularly Alton Brown's 'Good Eats'. For his show on pie crusts, he had a heavy duty rolling pin with about a 3/8 th inch band on either end, which of course makes for a very even rolled out dough. I just found out what they are: they're called rolling pin rings and examples are on this page at the very bottom
http://www.fantes.com/rolling_pins.htm
When I'm in the zone, I can roll a pretty good slab, but can't come close to Vince's skill and he don't need no stinkin' rings.
Happy Holidays to all,
Linda Ferzoco
On Wednesday, December 20, 2006, at 03:03AM, "Patrick Cross" wrote:
>My niece has ROLLING PIN on her Christmas list this year. With that in the
>back of my noggin and while in my 'thinking room' this morning I had a
>thought for a thickness specific little slab roller. I'm going to modify
>one of my rolling pins by removing the handles and axle...then add an inline
>skate wheel to either end of the roller. Then replace the handles. I need
>to find/make a roller with a slightly smaller diameter than the inline skate
>wheels...for say an ending result of a 3/8th inch slab. Of course for this
>gizmo to work the slab needs to be the same or narrower width than the
>roller. Just thought I'd throw this out for the group to chew on.
>
>Patrick Cross (cone10soda)
>
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Kathy McDonald on wed 20 dec 06
Patrick ,
It is a good idea, and can be done with
something called a French rolling pin.
They are solid with no handles.
I had been bemoaning the difficulty of getting straight
edges
on my tiles when I first started making them.
My dad was one of those Red Green types
who loved to dicker around and make things
after he retired from farming.
He never threw anything out so he probably
had the cutting wheels on some other piece
of equipment.
He made me one years ago from an old French rolling pin.
They are thick in the middle and taper to a small end.
He used something akin to the kind of wheels
you see on a pizza cutter and had them set to roll the
slabs to 3/8 in. thick and they were screwed into the
ends of the rolling pin.
He passed away several years ago so I can't
even ask him what he used for wheels, it worked but
was a bit awkward to use because you had
to put your pressure in the middle of the rolling pin.
I had to pre-roll the slabs first with my
big heavy rolling pin , then do the final roll
with the French rolling pin
but this was a great finisher.
perfect straight edge. Made great 10 inch square
slabs.
There was a major flood here 2 yrs ago and I lost
much of my studio so when I went down to snap a
picture of it I can find it.
Maybe it got packed away, I never throw anything out!
I think I inherited that trait.
I need to look for it, thanks for reminding me.
Kathy
*who just got an early Christmas present
in the mail...Making Marks *new edition by Hopper
and
Clay a Studio Handbook by Vince Pitelka)
Gotta go read...forget the shortbread,!
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Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 12:31 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Cheapo Slab Roller With A Twist
My niece has ROLLING PIN on her Christmas list this year.
With that in the
back of my noggin and while in my 'thinking room' this
morning I had a
thought for a thickness specific little slab roller. I'm
going to modify
one of my rolling pins by removing the handles and
axle...then add an inline
skate wheel to either end of the roller. Then replace the
handles. I need
to find/make a roller with a slightly smaller diameter than
the inline skate
wheels...for say an ending result of a 3/8th inch slab. Of
course for this
gizmo to work the slab needs to be the same or narrower
width than the
roller. Just thought I'd throw this out for the group to
chew on.
Patrick Cross (cone10soda)
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Patrick Cross on wed 20 dec 06
Oh yeah that gives me another way to go about it...skip removing the
handles. I have a solid one-piece maple one like that...it's 22 1/2"
(...30" from handle to handle...) 3" diameter roller. I suppose I could
just add short axle stubs to the ends and have a box of various diamenter
wheels to put on it...a set for 1/2" thick slab...3/8" slab and so on.
Patrick Cross (cone10soda)
On 12/20/06, Nancy wrote:
>
> Patrick
>
> I have a LARGE professional bakers rolling pin that I bought on ebay for
> about 20 bucks. Thing is heavy with a metal rod through the middle.
> It's about 18" wide and 4" in diameter....now you have me thinking :)
>
> Nancy
> www.hilltoppottery.com
>
>
> Patrick Cross wrote:
>
>
> > My niece has ROLLING PIN on her Christmas list this year. With that
> > in the
> > back of my noggin and while in my 'thinking room' this morning I had a
> > thought for a thickness specific little slab roller. I'm going to
> modify
> > one of my rolling pins by removing the handles and axle...then add an
> > inline
> > skate wheel to either end of the roller. Then replace the handles. I
> > need
> > to find/make a roller with a slightly smaller diameter than the inline
> > skate
> > wheels...for say an ending result of a 3/8th inch slab. Of course for
> > this
> > gizmo to work the slab needs to be the same or narrower width than the
> > roller. Just thought I'd throw this out for the group to chew on.
> >
> > Patrick Cross (cone10soda)
> >
> >
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Patrick Cross on wed 20 dec 06
Oh Geez, I just looked at the Fantes.com page....Now I'm gonna get myself in
a world of trouble...where's my credit card? They certainly have some cool
stuff on there.
On 12/20/06, Linda - Pacifica wrote:
>
> Hi Patrick,
>
> I watch the food channel from time to time, particularly Alton Brown's
> 'Good Eats'. For his show on pie crusts, he had a heavy duty rolling pin
> with about a 3/8 th inch band on either end, which of course makes for a
> very even rolled out dough. I just found out what they are: they're called
> rolling pin rings and examples are on this page at the very bottom
>
> http://www.fantes.com/rolling_pins.htm
>
> When I'm in the zone, I can roll a pretty good slab, but can't come close
> to Vince's skill and he don't need no stinkin' rings.
>
> Happy Holidays to all,
> Linda Ferzoco
> On Wednesday, December 20, 2006, at 03:03AM, "Patrick Cross" <
> cone10soda@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >My niece has ROLLING PIN on her Christmas list this year. With that in
> the
> >back of my noggin and while in my 'thinking room' this morning I had a
> >thought for a thickness specific little slab roller. I'm going to modify
> >one of my rolling pins by removing the handles and axle...then add an
> inline
> >skate wheel to either end of the roller. Then replace the handles. I
> need
> >to find/make a roller with a slightly smaller diameter than the inline
> skate
> >wheels...for say an ending result of a 3/8th inch slab. Of course for
> this
> >gizmo to work the slab needs to be the same or narrower width than the
> >roller. Just thought I'd throw this out for the group to chew on.
> >
> >Patrick Cross (cone10soda)
> >
>
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Gayle Bair on wed 20 dec 06
Pat,
Have you thought about using one of the silicone rollers.
Kitchen ware sites/shops are no longer my downfall
You want trouble... go to
http://www.kentstools.com/ have them send you a catalog
They have a large set up at the Tucson Gem Show.
I have to observe severe restraint.... but I am going there again this year!
I haven't been to their brick and mortar store yet but I think I will this
year.....if someone doesn't hold me back my restraint is a goner!
Gayle Bair
Bainbridge Island, WA
Tucson, AZ
www.claybair.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick Cross
Oh Geez, I just looked at the Fantes.com page....Now I'm gonna get myself in
a world of trouble...where's my credit card? They certainly have some cool
stuff on there.
On 12/20/06, Linda - Pacifica wrote:
>
> Hi Patrick,
>
> I watch the food channel from time to time, particularly Alton Brown's
> 'Good Eats'. For his show on pie crusts, he had a heavy duty rolling pin
> with about a 3/8 th inch band on either end, which of course makes for a
> very even rolled out dough. I just found out what they are: they're
called
> rolling pin rings and examples are on this page at the very bottom
>
> http://www.fantes.com/rolling_pins.htm
>
> When I'm in the zone, I can roll a pretty good slab, but can't come close
> to Vince's skill and he don't need no stinkin' rings.
>
> Happy Holidays to all,
> Linda Ferzoco
> On Wednesday, December 20, 2006, at 03:03AM, "Patrick Cross" <
> cone10soda@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >My niece has ROLLING PIN on her Christmas list this year. With that in
> the
> >back of my noggin and while in my 'thinking room' this morning I had a
> >thought for a thickness specific little slab roller. I'm going to modify
> >one of my rolling pins by removing the handles and axle...then add an
> inline
> >skate wheel to either end of the roller. Then replace the handles. I
> need
> >to find/make a roller with a slightly smaller diameter than the inline
> skate
> >wheels...for say an ending result of a 3/8th inch slab. Of course for
> this
> >gizmo to work the slab needs to be the same or narrower width than the
> >roller. Just thought I'd throw this out for the group to chew on.
> >
> >Patrick Cross (cone10soda)
Megan Mason on wed 20 dec 06
In a message dated 12/20/2006 5:56:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
cone10soda@GMAIL.COM writes:
I need
to find/make a roller with a slightly smaller diameter than the inline skate
wheels...for say an ending result of a 3/8th inch slab. Of course for this
If you know a woodturner, a popular following who make more than lovely
bowls, they could make what you describe if you take one. I also imagine one
cold be thrown on the wheel and fired if you get the diameter with shrinkage
figures out.It sounds like a helpful idea and I hope you end a description
and photo to the ceramic magazine hints columns.
Meg
Vince Pitelka on wed 20 dec 06
Patrick Cross wrote:
> My niece has ROLLING PIN on her Christmas list this year. With that in
> the
> back of my noggin and while in my 'thinking room' this morning I had a
> thought for a thickness specific little slab roller. I'm going to modify
> one of my rolling pins by removing the handles and axle...then add an
> inline
> skate wheel to either end of the roller. Then replace the handles. I
> need
> to find/make a roller with a slightly smaller diameter than the inline
> skate
> wheels...for say an ending result of a 3/8th inch slab. Of course for
> this
> gizmo to work the slab needs to be the same or narrower width than the
> roller. Just thought I'd throw this out for the group to chew on.
Patrick -
This would work well for a single thickness of slab, but first you'd need to
find someone to turn the rolling pin down to 3/8" smaller in diameter than
the skate wheels. And then you'd need a separate rolling pin for each
thickness of slab. A good long chef's rolling pin already IS a cheapo slab
roller, Just get a selection of pairs of wood dowels of varying thicknesses
from 3/16" up to 3'4". You simply set out a parallel pair of dowells so
that the very ends of the rolling pin barrel ride on the dowels, controlling
the thickness of the slab that is rolled between the dowels. That way, with
one rolling pin, you can roll slabs of any thickness. Or, if you know
someone with a good table saw, you can simply cut pairs of long thin slats
of varying thicknesses to accomplish the same thing.
Also, there are times when you want to use the rolling pin by itself, such
as when you want to eliminate the linear grain structure in a freshly rolled
slab but do not want to thin the slab at all. With the slab still stuck to
the canvas it was rolled on, you can cross-roll it to eliminate the
directional grain structure, and it will not thin any further.
Within the past decade, someone was marketing a rolling pin that had square
plastic gauges mounted at either end between the barrel and the handle.
Each edge of the gauge would lift the barrel a different distance off the
table surface, so you had four choices of slab thickenss. In that case, the
edges of the plastic gauges simply dragged on the table surface as you
rolled, and when I had the opportunity to use one of these units I found
that the corners of those gauges snagged on the canvas and on any other
imperfections in the table surface. It seemed like a marginally-successful
solution.
Now, going back to your idea Patrick, if you could come up with a design
consisting of a single slab roller with removeable handles and
interchangeable wheels of varying diameters rather than inline skate wheels,
I think you'd really have something, because it would always roll smoothly
in comparison to that one with the square plastic gauges. I see no need for
exotic wheels with bearings. Simple wood disks would work fine as long as
they are a fairly precise fit on the axle, and if one wanted to make a
really superior long-lasting dsign, the center of the wood disks could
easily be fitted with plastic or brass bushings that would turn almost as
smoothly as an inline skate wheel.
As you can see, you've got me thinking about this. I may work on this
myself.
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft, Tennessee Technological University
Smithville TN 37166, 615/597-6801 x111
vpitelka@dtccom.net, wpitelka@tntech.edu
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
http://www.tntech.edu/craftcenter/
Ellen Currans on wed 20 dec 06
As Gayle mentioned, you can buy wonderful, brightly colored silicone=20
rolling pins in any high end kitchen store in several different shapes=20
and sizes. They are not cheap, but cheaper than a slab roller. I=20
rushed out and bought the 24 inch red French rolling pin because it=20
promised to not stick to the pastry dough. Not so. It still needs=20
flour to keep the dough from sticking. Mine came with a set of rings=20
for the ends so that the dough would be rolled evenly. They just get=20
in the way as far as I'm concerned. I don't believe there was one 3/8=20
of an inch (I've misplaced the rings.) My rolling pin is in limbo=20
right now - halfway between the kitchen (where I have gone back to a=20
pastry cloth and a covered wooden rolling pin) and the studio, where I=20
already have a very nice large, heavy, wooden rolling pin with bearings=20
and a slab roller. I saw these at NCECA last March so I believe they=20
have already moved into the ceramic market.
Ellen Currans
Dundee, Oregon
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To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Sent: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 9:18 AM
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Patrick Cross on wed 20 dec 06
Thanks Meg...I'm a woodworker as well as potter. In my tool arsenal I have
two of the original Magna Corp. 10 ER ShopSmiths (manufactured from
1947-53)...every potter needs one of these machines. Besides, what's a
coffee mug without the cup shelf to put it on. Oh, and the ShopSmith in the
upright drill press position can't be beat as a glaze mixer. For the
unfamiliar here's an immaculate one (not mine but I can still drool over
it).
http://mkctools.com/10er8.htm
Patrick Cross (cone10soda)
On 12/20/06, Megan Mason wrote:
>
> In a message dated 12/20/2006 5:56:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> cone10soda@GMAIL.COM writes:
>
> I need
> to find/make a roller with a slightly smaller diameter than the
> inline skate
> wheels...for say an ending result of a 3/8th inch slab. Of course for
> this
>
>
>
> If you know a woodturner, a popular following who make more than lovely
> bowls, they could make what you describe if you take one. I also imagine
> one
> cold be thrown on the wheel and fired if you get the diameter with
> shrinkage
> figures out.It sounds like a helpful idea and I hope you end a
> description
> and photo to the ceramic magazine hints columns.
>
> Meg
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________________________
> Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
> You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
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