Daniel on sat 30 dec 06
I'm having a great deal of difficulty locating a source for wood ash.
None of the ceramic supply houses I have been to have any. Period.
I live in the city and don't have a fireplace, I don't know anyone with
a fireplace and don't expect to meet anyone soon with a fireplace.
Does anyone know of a supplier I can go to.
Please don't just tell me to burn my own wood, I already thought about
that but am unable to because of wood burning regs where I live.
Would barbeque brickets work if I burnt them? So many of the glazes I want
to try ask for wood ash!!! I have bone ash, soda ash, even some cigarette
ashes...:) But I can't find any wood ash. Help.
Thank you in advance...
also just exactly HOW does one wash wood ash?
daniel
Patrick Cross on sat 30 dec 06
Where are you?...cause I have about two 5 gallon buckets of ash from our
fire place....and I need to clear out the box again too. It would be mostly
oak and hickory ash.
Or do you know about www.FreeCycle.org ? This would be no stranger a
request as other posts I've seen. You could most likely find someone close
to you with a fire place rather than pay the shipping on what I have.
either way.
Patrick Cross (cone10soda)
On 12/30/06, Daniel wrote:
>
> I'm having a great deal of difficulty locating a source for wood ash.
> None of the ceramic supply houses I have been to have any. Period.
> I live in the city and don't have a fireplace, I don't know anyone with
> a fireplace and don't expect to meet anyone soon with a fireplace.
> Does anyone know of a supplier I can go to.
> Please don't just tell me to burn my own wood, I already thought about
> that but am unable to because of wood burning regs where I live.
> Would barbeque brickets work if I burnt them? So many of the glazes I
> want
> to try ask for wood ash!!! I have bone ash, soda ash, even some cigarette
> ashes...:) But I can't find any wood ash. Help.
>
> Thank you in advance...
>
> also just exactly HOW does one wash wood ash?
>
> daniel
>
>
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Gene Arnold on sat 30 dec 06
Daniel
I have heard that Axner sells hard wood ash, you might check with them.
Also if there are any restaurants in your area that cook with wood, such as
bar-b-q restaurants. May be worth checking into.
Gene & Latonna
mudduck@mudduckpottery.net
www.mudduckpottery.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel"
To:
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:55 PM
Subject: Finding wood ash
> I'm having a great deal of difficulty locating a source for wood ash.
> None of the ceramic supply houses I have been to have any. Period.
> I live in the city and don't have a fireplace, I don't know anyone with
> a fireplace and don't expect to meet anyone soon with a fireplace.
> Does anyone know of a supplier I can go to.
> Please don't just tell me to burn my own wood, I already thought about
> that but am unable to because of wood burning regs where I live.
> Would barbeque brickets work if I burnt them? So many of the glazes I
> want
> to try ask for wood ash!!! I have bone ash, soda ash, even some cigarette
> ashes...:) But I can't find any wood ash. Help.
>
> Thank you in advance...
>
> also just exactly HOW does one wash wood ash?
>
> daniel
>
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Lois Ruben Aronow on sat 30 dec 06
You could try Craig's List.
>
> I'm having a great deal of difficulty locating a source for wood ash.
> None of the ceramic supply houses I have been to have any. Period.
> I live in the city and don't have a fireplace, I don't know
> anyone with a fireplace and don't expect to meet anyone soon
> with a fireplace.
> Does anyone know of a supplier I can go to.
> Please don't just tell me to burn my own wood, I already
> thought about that but am unable to because of wood burning
> regs where I live.
> Would barbeque brickets work if I burnt them? So many of the
> glazes I want to try ask for wood ash!!! I have bone ash,
> soda ash, even some cigarette
> ashes...:) But I can't find any wood ash. Help.
>
> Thank you in advance...
>
> also just exactly HOW does one wash wood ash?
>
> daniel
>
Diane Palmquist on sat 30 dec 06
We burn a wood furnace. Where are you located Daniel?
Diane
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel"
To:
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:55 PM
Subject: Finding wood ash
> I'm having a great deal of difficulty locating a source for wood ash.
> None of the ceramic supply houses I have been to have any. Period.
> I live in the city and don't have a fireplace, I don't know anyone with
> a fireplace and don't expect to meet anyone soon with a fireplace.
> Does anyone know of a supplier I can go to.
> Please don't just tell me to burn my own wood, I already thought about
> that but am unable to because of wood burning regs where I live.
> Would barbeque brickets work if I burnt them? So many of the glazes I
> want
> to try ask for wood ash!!! I have bone ash, soda ash, even some cigarette
> ashes...:) But I can't find any wood ash. Help.
>
> Thank you in advance...
>
> also just exactly HOW does one wash wood ash?
>
> daniel
>
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Joan Klotz on sat 30 dec 06
wouldn't mesquite brickets result in wood ash when burned?
Joan klotz
>Would barbeque brickets work if I burnt them? So many of the glazes I want
>to try ask for wood ash!!!
John Connolly on sun 31 dec 06
If my memory serves me correctly from my Minnesota childhood, charcoal is rendered wood. Unless it has been changed in more modern times, it should become wood ash.
John Connolly in Ensenada, Baja California, Mexico
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L. P. Skeen on sun 31 dec 06
They would have a petroleum stuff on 'em wouldn't they?
L
Joan Klotz wrote:
> wouldn't mesquite brickets result in wood ash when burned?
>
> Joan klotz
>
>> Would barbeque brickets work if I burnt them? So many of the glazes
>> I want
>> to try ask for wood ash!!!
>
David Hendley on sun 31 dec 06
I will mail nice, clean (very little unburned charcoal) wood ash
to anyone who is willing to pay the shipping.
I sent box-fulls to a potter in Miami for several years. I usually
sent about 25 pounds and it cost about $20.
The easiest way to wash wood ash is to fill a 5-gallon bucket half
full of ash, fill it with water, stir, let it soak for a day, and then
pour off the water. Repeat 2 or 3 times, then dry the ash.
David Hendley
Maydelle, Texas
david(at)farmpots(dot)com
http://www.farmpots.com
----- Original Message -----
> I'm having a great deal of difficulty locating a source for wood ash.
> None of the ceramic supply houses I have been to have any. Period.
> I live in the city and don't have a fireplace, I don't know anyone with
> a fireplace and don't expect to meet anyone soon with a fireplace.
> Does anyone know of a supplier I can go to.
> also just exactly HOW does one wash wood ash?
Jeanne on sun 31 dec 06
I don't know where you live, but you could also try Seattle Pottery
Supply at
http://www.seattlepotterysupply.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc.
They sell a synthetic wood ash. Haven't used this product, so don't know
anything about it, but maybe worth a look?
Jeanne -Sitka, Alaska
>> I'm having a great deal of difficulty locating a source for wood ash.
>> None of the ceramic supply houses I have been to have any. Period.
>> I live in the city and don't have a fireplace, I don't know
>> anyone with a fireplace and don't expect to meet anyone soon
>> with a fireplace.
>> Does anyone know of a supplier I can go to.
>> Please don't just tell me to burn my own wood, I already
>> thought about that but am unable to because of wood burning
>> regs where I live.
>> Would barbeque brickets work if I burnt them? So many of the
>> glazes I want to try ask for wood ash!!! I have bone ash,
>> soda ash, even some cigarette
>> ashes...:) But I can't find any wood ash. Help.
>>
>> Thank you in advance...
>>
>> also just exactly HOW does one wash wood ash?
>>
>> daniel
>>
>>
Joan Klotz on sun 31 dec 06
Actually the bag of mesquite briquets I have says that they do not
have any petroleum products included. But even if the manufacturers
are fibbing, wouldn't the petroleum products burn off in the process
of forming ashes?
Joan Klotz
At 09:15 PM 12/30/2006, you wrote:
>They would have a petroleum stuff on 'em wouldn't they?
>
>L
Gerald O'Sullivan on mon 1 jan 07
Charcoal briquettes are made by mixing starch with the fine powdery
charcoal left over from producing lump charcoal and then forming them in
a press.
As briquettes burn, the charcoal will be reduced to wood ash, since it
is made from wood in the first place. The starch should also be reduced
to ashes, since it is also an organic material, but my concern would be
whether the starch is completely broken down into ash to the same degree
as the charcoal or not. The volatile hydrocarbons would be driven off
when the briquette burns, but it may leave heavier hydrocarbons as an
oily residue in the ash.
This might not be a problem, but I do remember reading a potter's
account of trying to make a glaze from the ash of almond shells. He had
no luck because the almond oil in the shells left a residue in the ash.
For the life of me I cannot remember who the potter was or where I read
about it. But I do remember reading that Henry Ford invented briquettes
to use up the charcoal dust and sawdust generated in his factories. You
could ride into the country in your Model T Ford with your bag of Ford
briquettes and have a barbecue. And bring the ash back to experiment
with those charcoal ash glazes!
Gerald O'Sullivan
Pretoria, South Africa
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 16:55 -0800, Joan Klotz wrote:
> Actually the bag of mesquite briquets I have says that they do not
> have any petroleum products included. But even if the manufacturers
> are fibbing, wouldn't the petroleum products burn off in the process
> of forming ashes?
>
> Joan Klotz
>
> At 09:15 PM 12/30/2006, you wrote:
> >They would have a petroleum stuff on 'em wouldn't they?
> >
> >L
>
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Frank Colson on mon 1 jan 07
This is a no brainer! Just grab your yellow pages, open to cafe's and find
where they serve "real barbeque" or smoked meals. Take an empty container
(large) and leave it with permission to come back and pickup the ashes they
usually throw out.
When I first open the Colson School of Art, there was a bareque nearby
called the :"Hubba Hubba Drivein". Twice a month I would pick up two 20
gallon metal cans filled with Hickory and Oak ashes. I put together a
double metal basin, each side holding 5 gallons of ash glaze. Bought it at
the local cattle feed store. I had 3 pottery classes a day, five days a
week. Man, we were ash glasing at cone ten for years. Hubba Hubba Drive In
provided us with mucho dollars of great glazes for nothing!
Frank Colson
www.R2D2u.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Connolly"
To:
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: Finding Wood Ash
> If my memory serves me correctly from my Minnesota childhood, charcoal is
> rendered wood. Unless it has been changed in more modern times, it should
> become wood ash.
>
>
>
>
> John Connolly in Ensenada, Baja California, Mexico
>
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Gary Navarre on tue 2 jan 07
On Mon, 1 Jan 2007 19:15:22 +0200, Gerald O'Sullivan
wrote:
>Charcoal briquettes are made by mixing starch with the fine powdery
>charcoal left over from producing lump charcoal and then forming them in
>a press.
>For the life of me I cannot remember who the potter was or where I read
>about it. But I do remember reading that Henry Ford invented briquettes
>to use up the charcoal dust and sawdust generated in his factories.
You
>could ride into the country in your Model T Ford with your bag of Ford
>briquettes and have a barbecue. And bring the ash back to experiment
>with those charcoal ash glazes!
>
>Gerald O'Sullivan
>Pretoria, South Africa
>
>On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 16:55 -0800, Joan Klotz wrote:
>> Actually the bag of mesquite briquets I have says that they do not
>> have any petroleum products included. But even if the manufacturers
>> are fibbing, wouldn't the petroleum products burn off in the process
>> of forming ashes?
>>
>> Joan Klotz
>>
>> At 09:15 PM 12/30/2006, you wrote:
>> >They would have a petroleum stuff on 'em wouldn't they?
>> >
>> >L
Hay Crew,
Henry Ford had the wood for his autos made in Kingsford, Michigan ( 6 miles
from my present studio in Norway) and the scrap was made into charcoal,
hence the name "Kingsford Charcoal". Production ended years ago and the
product is now made elsewhere. About 5 years age the smoke stack of his
Kingsford plant was demolished and the land stands vacant. There also seems
to be a problem with methane being produced in a few old dump sites that
were covered years ago and now have buildings over them. Can't recall if
there was a fire or just air tests that caused one new company to move.
As to oils and petroleum being burned off it would be necessary to get the
ash hot enough yet not so hot to produce clinkers. Just the other night I
fired up the Koie Cooker and stuck a pyrometer in to get an idea of how hot
it got and it was over 500F. maybe 600. I haven't reviewed the videos yet
but should have time now to make a "How To Make Ash With A Koie Cooker" for
YouTube and post new stills in Fotki. For the moment I add a bit for another
of the questions, "How do you wash ash?" This is what I do...
http://public.fotki.com/GindaUP/mup/dp/d06at9pt.html
It is kinda cool you can get the ash from the cherry tree as long as the
old coot doesn't burn his other junk in there. However, Aluminium coated
paper can really screw up a potentially nice ash. When I fired I was
fortunate to have a Franklin Stove in the family den and made some Apple ash
glaze and pretty much sold all the results. Came out a lot different than
mixed Pine.
http://public.fotki.com/GindaUP/ca/early_navarre_pots/aapp.html
Ya know you could take the Model T out of the big city and go camping for a
few weeks and rig up a temporary cooker, they really are not meant to be
permanent. And tick bites don't last forever either. Good luck there, ah,
have productive results this new year and stay in there!
G in da U.P.
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