Patrick Cross on mon 1 jan 07
I could use some help figuring out how to go about this. I may be buying a
friend's Olympic Oval...she's in Arizona...I'm in Mississippi. On the
destination end, I do have a commercial address with easy access, a 10 foot
wide overheard door...but no dock. I'm especially interested in the horror
stories...who NOT to ship freight with. The best situation would be to find
a shipper willing to actually go to her house to palletize and/or crate the
kiln there in Sierra Vista, AZ...and then ship it to me in Starkville, MS.
This has to occur before March because she's moving back to "The Homeland"
herself (Mississippi). She would bring the Olympic in the move but is
already having to disperse other collected and prized fanfare to make room
in the truck.
Thanks,
Patrick Cross (cone10soda)
Catherine on mon 1 jan 07
I did an EBay purchase of a kiln from PA to here in AZ via UPS. That was
two years or so ago. The kiln was prepped for shipping by the husband of
the seller who had a business and was familiar with shipping procedures. =
I
had them insure for full replacement value.=0D
=0D
As the driver and my husband carried the big box to our garage, a broken
corner of the box trailed a thick swath of "crumbs". The lifting and
dropping during transit had pulverized much of the brick. The kiln was
useless, a rather pathetic sight, so badly damaged. Eventually, after mu=
ch
frustration, the insurance paid off. There was endless "back and forth" =
via
phone and in person with the local manager of UPS. She said she was havi=
ng
trouble explaining what the damaged item was and until the folks in the m=
ain
office, four hours away, understood, they couldn't send someone to assess
the damage. It was approx three months until a check was issued, and it
went to the seller, of course, although I had already paid them.=20
Fortunately, they were very honest folks and sent it on to me.=0D
=0D
If I can't get pick it up in person, I pass on used kilns. I've bought t=
wo
used ones in AZ and am so very pleased with their performance and price.=20
That said, if you don't buy from this gal, I'd love to acquire a
computerized kiln. I don't see $350 accomplishing that, though! =0D
=0D
I'd go for a trucking freight line. =0D
=0D
I wish all a happy and gentle New Year.=0D
=0D
Catherine in Yuma, AZ=0D
=0D
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-------Original Message-------=0D
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From: Patrick Cross=0D
Date: 01/01/07 12:07:44=0D
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG=0D
Subject: Shipping An Electric Kiln Across Country...How To?=0D
=0D
I could use some help figuring out how to go about this. I may be buying=
a=0D
friend's Olympic Oval...she's in Arizona...I'm in Mississippi. On the=0D
destination end, I do have a commercial address with easy access, a 10 fo=
ot=0D
wide overheard door...but no dock. I'm especially interested in the horr=
or=0D
stories...who NOT to ship freight with. The best situation would be to f=
ind=0D
a shipper willing to actually go to her house to palletize and/or crate t=
he=0D
kiln there in Sierra Vista, AZ...and then ship it to me in Starkville, MS=
=2E=0D
=0D
This has to occur before March because she's moving back to "The Homeland=
"=0D
herself (Mississippi). She would bring the Olympic in the move but is=0D
already having to disperse other collected and prized fanfare to make roo=
m=0D
in the truck.=0D
=0D
Thanks,=0D
Patrick Cross (cone10soda)=0D
=20
Fred Hagen on mon 1 jan 07
Patrick,
I recently took my 7cu ft L&L kiln from MIch to Tucson in my SUV because
Allied Van Lines wanted to build a $700 crate around it for the move. =20
I took the top off and it fit in my vehicle, but I could also have =20
taken the sections apart and put them back together again. You might =20
try contacting one of the trucking companies to see what they can do =20
or at least they may be able to give some guidance on who to call. =20
Good Luck.
Fred Hagen
Quoting Patrick Cross :
> I could use some help figuring out how to go about this. I may be buying =
a
> friend's Olympic Oval...she's in Arizona...I'm in Mississippi. On the
> destination end, I do have a commercial address with easy access, a 10 foo=
t
> wide overheard door...but no dock. I'm especially interested in the horro=
r
> stories...who NOT to ship freight with. The best situation would be to fi=
nd
> a shipper willing to actually go to her house to palletize and/or crate th=
e
> kiln there in Sierra Vista, AZ...and then ship it to me in Starkville, MS.
>
> This has to occur before March because she's moving back to "The Homeland"
> herself (Mississippi). She would bring the Olympic in the move but is
> already having to disperse other collected and prized fanfare to make room
> in the truck.
>
> Thanks,
> Patrick Cross (cone10soda)
>
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Arnold Howard on tue 2 jan 07
From: "Patrick Cross"
I'm especially interested in the horror
> stories...who NOT to ship freight with. The best
> situation would be to find
> a shipper willing to actually go to her house to palletize
> and/or crate the
> kiln there in Sierra Vista, AZ...and then ship it to me in
> Starkville, MS.
If you find a shipper who will crate the kiln, get a
guarantee that they will pay for shipping damage. Uncrate
and inspect the kiln immediately after you receive it. If
the driver doesn't have time to wait while you inspect it,
sign the bill of lading with the notation "pending
inspection." Also note any external damage to the crate on
the bill of lading.
I suggest crating the kiln in wood:
1) Sandwich a 1/16"-thick sheet of foam packing between the
kiln body and the lid. The foam sheet must extend under the
lid completely so that no section of the lid touches the
kiln walls. This is important.
2) Lay a 1"-thick piece of Styrofoam board over a wooden
pallet. Then place the kiln on the Styrofoam. (The Styrofoam
and pallet must be large enough for the entire kiln.)
3) On top of the kiln lid, place two sheets of 1"-thick
Styrofoam, and on top of that, a light-weight pallet. Then
vertically band the top and bottom pallets with three bands.
(You can use steel or plastic banding. It should be tight,
but not so tight that the banding damages the kiln.)
4) Connect the two pallets with 8 vertical 1x4 boards at the
corners to form a crate. Then add diagonal boards on the 4
sides for stability.
5) Do not place anything inside the kiln during a move,
especially shelves and posts. Unless your kiln is securely
crated, do not place anything on top of it. Place the kiln
near the front of a truck or trailer where the ride is
smoother.
Sincerely,
Arnold Howard
Paragon Industries, L.P., Mesquite, Texas USA
ahoward@paragonweb.com / www.paragonweb.com
Arnold Howard on tue 2 jan 07
We ship small kilns by UPS and pack them with molded
Styrofoam similar to the way computers are packed. Firebrick
kilns have to be packed that way for UPS.
By the way, if you ever buy a small kiln, save the packing
material. It comes in handy if you take the kiln with you to
seminars or on vacation.
Sincerely,
Arnold Howard
Paragon Industries, L.P., Mesquite, Texas USA
ahoward@paragonweb.com / www.paragonweb.com
From: "Catherine"
I did an EBay purchase of a kiln from PA to here in AZ via
UPS. That was
two years or so ago. The kiln was prepped for shipping by
the husband of
the seller who had a business and was familiar with shipping
procedures. I
had them insure for full replacement value.
The lifting and
dropping during transit had pulverized much of the brick.
The kiln was
useless,
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