RJ Shaw on fri 5 jan 07
Has anyone found a work-around for putting Glazemaster on a PDA.
Filemaker Mobile seems to be somewhat limited in it's capabilities.
It would be so great not to have to print out glaze recipes for each
test I want to try. If I could use my PDA in the pottery, I could
enter the results on the fly, so to speak, and check to see what I
need to order for inventory, etc.
PDA's are a lifesaver for me. That way I don't gave to gimp all the
way inside every time I need some information. (For those who don't
know, I use crutches to get around inside, and a scooter outside).
Thanks,
Joe
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Jacqueline Miller on fri 5 jan 07
Joe: I do not know of any ready made glaze software for a PDA but I
use a database program on my palm (they also have it for other OSs)
called Handbase for my dayjob. It is a relational database program and
has many calculation abilities. Is Glazemaster based on Filemaker?
There may be a way to convert.
Jackie
jqamiller@aol.com
On 1/5/07, RJ Shaw wrote:
> Has anyone found a work-around for putting Glazemaster on a PDA.
> Filemaker Mobile seems to be somewhat limited in it's capabilities.
>
> It would be so great not to have to print out glaze recipes for each
> test I want to try. If I could use my PDA in the pottery, I could
> enter the results on the fly, so to speak, and check to see what I
> need to order for inventory, etc.
>
> PDA's are a lifesaver for me. That way I don't gave to gimp all the
> way inside every time I need some information. (For those who don't
> know, I use crutches to get around inside, and a scooter outside).
>
> Thanks,
> Joe
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John Hesselberth on fri 5 jan 07
Hi Joe,
I don't know of a way. If you find one, let me know.
John
On Jan 5, 2007, at 4:38 AM, RJ Shaw wrote:
> Has anyone found a work-around for putting Glazemaster on a PDA.
> Filemaker Mobile seems to be somewhat limited in it's capabilities.
Stephanie Wright on sat 6 jan 07
This may seem like a silly question, but have you contacted the
Glazemaster people and suggested they format the software for PDA? They
must have some sort of customer service/support contact info. If they have
not developed the format already, which they would be able to tell you
about, I'm sure doing so would improve sales, which is always a good
incentive to any company. :-)
Stephanie
Jacqueline Miller on sat 6 jan 07
John: Do you know if any of the glaze software programs are based on
Microsoft Access? If they were, it probably could be done. I agree
that it would be great to have it on a PDA. Let me know.
Jackie
On 1/5/07, John Hesselberth wrote:
> Hi Joe,
>
> I don't know of a way. If you find one, let me know.
>
> John
>
> On Jan 5, 2007, at 4:38 AM, RJ Shaw wrote:
>
> > Has anyone found a work-around for putting Glazemaster on a PDA.
> > Filemaker Mobile seems to be somewhat limited in it's capabilities.
>
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May Luk on sat 6 jan 07
Hello Joe;
I had worked it out that I can turn Glazemaster
records into pdf and I can view the recipes in a read
only pdf file but no functionalities.
Another way to do this is to export Glazemaster into
Excel and you can read it with Document to go. You
need to invest some time to reformat everything
though.
I also have David Hewitt's glaze workbook. This is an
Excel workbook with macros. I can read it in Document
to go okay but the calculation was iffy. The first and
last time I tried to do calculations with it was in
front of Mike Bailey at his glaze workshop. It didn't
work! It felt like some sort of software conflict. I
never put in the time to work it out. The PDA and the
spreadsheet was handy as I had a glaze group then and
I need my recipes and materials to be portable and
searchable.
I found a simple kiln log software for the Palm. I
forgot the name but it has a steaming pot logo. If you
are interested, please go to Palm web site and do a
serach on pottery and see what you can come up with.
Regards
May
Kings County
John Hesselberth on sat 6 jan 07
On Jan 6, 2007, at 11:02 AM, Jacqueline Miller wrote:
> John: Do you know if any of the glaze software programs are based on
> Microsoft Access?
Hi Jackie,
Not that I am aware of. Access has one MAJOR disadvantage vs
FileMaker from my perspective. It is Windows only and very difficult
to export to other database formats. In typical arrogant Microsoft
fashion, they seem to have wanted to make it as difficult as possible
for other platforms to use their files. FileMaker is dual platform--
write it once and it runs on both with minor differences. By my data
about 20% of potters are Mac people and there is no way I would
ignore them (since I am one myself).
Regards,
John
RJ Shaw on sat 6 jan 07
Sorry, we should have mentioned that we are on a Mac as well, two, in fact.
We have a new desktop system inside, and an older laptop running OS X
10.3.9. We hate to take the laptop into the pottery because of the
dust.
We have Excel, Powerpoint, Filemaker, and Glazemaster, of course.
Quark, not that it would be of any help. But our data base knowledge
is pretty rusty.
Hopefully someone out there has made some wonderful discovery that
will allow Glazemaster to hop over to the PDA's and zip along in
style.
Thanks again,
Rita this time
>Has anyone found a work-around for putting Glazemaster on a PDA.
>Filemaker Mobile seems to be somewhat limited in it's capabilities.
>
>It would be so great not to have to print out glaze recipes for each
>test I want to try. If I could use my PDA in the pottery, I could
>enter the results on the fly, so to speak, and check to see what I
>need to order for inventory, etc.
>
>PDA's are a lifesaver for me. That way I don't gave to gimp all the
>way inside every time I need some information. (For those who don't
>know, I use crutches to get around inside, and a scooter outside).
>
>Thanks,
>Joe
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mailto:rjshaw@shawpottery.com
805-937-7495
RJ Shaw on sat 6 jan 07
Uh, Stephaine, John Hesselberth and Ron Roy are the ones who wrote
Glazemaster. John has very thoughtfully already replied to our
request, and I am sure Ron will comment as well as soon as he sees
the thread.
John and Roy are great resources on Clayart, always ready to make
suggestions, corrections, and helpful input on glaze questions.
And they have been ready, willing and able to help us with any
Glazemaster questions since the day we purchased the program, which
is absolutely the best on the market!
Just thought you should know...
Chuckle,
Rita
>This may seem like a silly question, but have you contacted the
>Glazemaster people and suggested they format the software for PDA? They
>must have some sort of customer service/support contact info. If they have
>not developed the format already, which they would be able to tell you
>about, I'm sure doing so would improve sales, which is always a good
>incentive to any company. :-)
>
>Stephanie
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mailto:rjshaw@shawpottery.com
805-937-7495
John Hesselberth on sat 6 jan 07
On Jan 6, 2007, at 8:02 PM, RJ Shaw wrote:
> Hopefully someone out there has made some wonderful discovery that
> will allow Glazemaster to hop over to the PDA's and zip along in
> style.
Hi Rita,
You can certainly export from GlazeMaster in almost any format you
want. It has outstanding export capability. You could easily build a
FileMaker or Excel layout that would import the exported data so you
would have copies of your recipes on your PDA. Having the
calculations also functional would be a lot of work--about as much as
writing GlazeMaster was.
Regards,
John
Lee Love on sun 7 jan 07
A cooking recipe program should work for recipes and recalculating
batches. Here is an example:
http://www.wakefieldsoft.com/pdacookbook/
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Minneapolis, Minnesota USA
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"When we all do better. We ALL do better." -Paul Wellstone
John Hesselberth on sun 7 jan 07
On Jan 6, 2007, at 11:05 PM, Stephanie Wright wrote:
> This may seem like a silly question, but have you contacted the
> Glazemaster people
Hi Stephanie,
He's right here and has been all along. Unfortunately, the market for
glaze calculation programs is not so big that any of us can afford to
customize for special applications. In fact, it isn't big enough for
any of us to have much of a business out of it for Windows and/or
Macs--these programs are mostly works of love that we have dressed up
enough to sell a few copies.
Regards,
John "the GlazeMaster people"
Stephanie Wright on sun 7 jan 07
Rita,
OK, so it was a silly question. But sometimes people do seem to overlook
the obvious. Color me embarrassed. :-) There is still so much for me to
learn about, which is part of the reason I joined the list. When I did a
search of Glazemaster online to find out more info, none of the sites that
came up mentioned who the developers were. Thank you for being so gentle
in pointing out my boneheadedness. :-)
Stephanie
Kathy Forer on sun 7 jan 07
On Jan 5, 2007, at 4:38 AM, RJ Shaw wrote:
> Has anyone found a work-around for putting Glazemaster on a PDA.
> Filemaker Mobile seems to be somewhat limited in it's capabilities.
Joe,
Returning to your original solution might be worth another try.
What limitations are you finding in FM Mobile?
Have you tried making your own template?
Kathy
Richard White on sun 7 jan 07
I won't delude myself or any of you that I have any clue about PDAs beyond
what I read in the computer magazines, but I have found a way to make
GlazeMaster portable, sort of... I copied the entire GlazeMaster folder to a
USB flash memory keydrive. Now all I need is access to a Windoze computer
that is running a reasonable recent version of the operating system so it
will recognize the USB device without requiring a special driver installed.
Plug it into the USB port, use Explorer or My Computer to navigate to the
drive, and double click the executable. It runs a little slower over the USB
interface, but that's faster than going home, entering a new recipe and
printing it out, and going back to the studio. Thanks for the great program,
John and Ron, and double thanks for NOT programming it in a database engine
that requires complete embedding in the Windoze registry.
dw
Mary White on mon 8 jan 07
Sorry, I don't know about the PDA thing, but I do use Glazemaster.
However I'm not aware of any inventory tracking feature, which sure
would be nice. Am I missing something?
Mary
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mary White
Madeira Park, BC, Canada
>Has anyone found a work-around for putting Glazemaster on a PDA.
>Filemaker Mobile seems to be somewhat limited in it's capabilities.
>
>It would be so great not to have to print out glaze recipes for each
>test I want to try. If I could use my PDA in the pottery, I could
>enter the results on the fly, so to speak, and check to see what I
>need to order for inventory, etc.
>
>PDA's are a lifesaver for me. That way I don't gave to gimp all the
>way inside every time I need some information. (For those who don't
>know, I use crutches to get around inside, and a scooter outside).
>
>Thanks,
>Joe
>--
>http://shawpottery.com/
>mailto:rjshaw@shawpottery.com
>805-937-7495
>
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Jacqueline Miller on mon 8 jan 07
John: If I had the original database that Glazemaster was written on,
I might be able to design it for PalmOS for you. Not overnight,
however.
Jackie
On 1/7/07, Richard White wrote:
> I won't delude myself or any of you that I have any clue about PDAs beyond
> what I read in the computer magazines, but I have found a way to make
> GlazeMaster portable, sort of... I copied the entire GlazeMaster folder to a
> USB flash memory keydrive. Now all I need is access to a Windoze computer
> that is running a reasonable recent version of the operating system so it
> will recognize the USB device without requiring a special driver installed.
> Plug it into the USB port, use Explorer or My Computer to navigate to the
> drive, and double click the executable. It runs a little slower over the USB
> interface, but that's faster than going home, entering a new recipe and
> printing it out, and going back to the studio. Thanks for the great program,
> John and Ron, and double thanks for NOT programming it in a database engine
> that requires complete embedding in the Windoze registry.
>
> dw
>
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John Hesselberth on mon 8 jan 07
On Jan 7, 2007, at 10:03 PM, Richard White wrote:
> Thanks for the great program,
> John and Ron, and double thanks for NOT programming it in a
> database engine
> that requires complete embedding in the Windoze registry
Hi dw,
Thanks for the feedback. Yes, a USB keychain drive would make it
portable between machines. Those are really handy devices and so
inexpensive these days. While I would like to claim credit for having
enough foresight to have made it easy to move to a machine without
having it in the Windoze registry, I have to admit that was just the
way it happened. I'm glad it works for you. FileMaker (GlazeMaster is
written within FileMaker and then turned into a stand alone program
using the capability imbedded in their developer's license) is really
a terrific relational database. If you need one (and now that Access
has been unbundled from Office so you don't have to automatically buy
it to get the other parts of Office) it is well worth considering.
John
Ron Roy on mon 8 jan 07
Not me - John wrote the glaze program - we wrote Mastering Cone 6 Glazes
together.
RR
>Uh, Stephaine, John Hesselberth and Ron Roy are the ones who wrote
>Glazemaster. John has very thoughtfully already replied to our
>request, and I am sure Ron will comment as well as soon as he sees
>the thread.
>
>John and Roy are great resources on Clayart, always ready to make
>suggestions, corrections, and helpful input on glaze questions.
>
>And they have been ready, willing and able to help us with any
>Glazemaster questions since the day we purchased the program, which
>is absolutely the best on the market!
>
>Just thought you should know...
>
>Chuckle,
>Rita
Ron Roy
RR#4
15084 Little Lake Road
Brighton, Ontario
Canada
K0K 1H0
Lois Ruben Aronow on mon 8 jan 07
Just as an aside, I can't say enough about investing in a USB keychain or
portable flash drive. Between my QuickBooks and my glaze databases, I can
easily go back and forth between home and studio, no problem.
Having lost my home computer in a flood this summer, I can't sing it's
praises enough. Mine is a gig, cost under $40, and I can't live without it.
I also have an external USB hard drive for my main computer. It's not for
my clay stuff as much as the 10,000 songs on my iPod. I had to learn how to
hack the damn thing after the flood, and I'm not going through that again.
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