Leigh Whitaker on thu 11 jan 07
What is the most unusual functional thing you have made out of clay. I
don't really mean unusually decorated or formed (like a funky teapot), although
you can tell me about those if you want to. But I mean an unusual item, not a
bowl/mug/vase/utensil holder/etc...
Yeah, I'm looking for ideas. LOL.
I am working on a terrarium right now. I bought a glass fishbowl from
Michael's craft store, and I've thrown a little pot with a rim so that the
fishbowl will sit upside down and be the lid of the terrarium. That's not too
unusual, but it's something, I guess.
I want to make a hummingbird feeder, but I don't think I have enough of the
skills I need yet.
My husband suggested I could make something naughty, but I don't have my own
kiln, so I wouldn't want to take that particular type of item to the studio
for firing.
Anyway, if you want to, tell me about something unusual you make.
pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on thu 11 jan 07
Hi Leigh,
A 'Roach Trap'...being a sort of low, wide-ish,
lid-less Cannister form, having unglazed sides,
then, a slick-glazed funnel 'top' going 'in' and
down of course, at a moderately steep incline,
which has an ample opening at it's bottom.
One puts a little dab o' Molassas, or a Fig Newton
Cookie or something in it...the Roach, smelling
something good to eat, climbs up the side, over
the top edge, and then slides ( all six Legs going
Haywire of course in the scramble NOT to slide, )
down the slippery Glazed funnel aspect and slips
through the hole into the container proper.
Made bottomless and set onto a Paper Plate or
piece of Cardboard, it makes for easy release of
the Roach(es) to other locations, so they be
removed from one's home or whatever, and remain
unharmed ( and well fed, ) in the process.
I made only one, and I kind of screwed it up at
that ( does it still count ? )...but always wanted
to make them AS a proper 'staple' item, a 'Bread
and Butter' item, in various colors and sizes and
details, should I ever get set up to be doing
Pottery full time...
Too, when made to match one's offerings for Custom
Table Settings, it can function conveniently on
the Table as part of the broader ensombe, so
while people are dining, the occasional errant
Roach(es) will tidily take care if
him-her-them-self, with no one needing to bother
after it-them ( or eventually it-they will, even
if after making the rounds of various other Plates
and Spoons and so on I suppose, in their way of
being liesured and curious, ) pending one's kindly
release of him-them later on the neighbor's porch
or yard or something, if not rescueing them from
the Gravy Compote's perils, in the mean time.
That is the only approximately
'unusual-functional' thing I recall having made
( even if I did kinda screw it up...)
Oh, I also one time made a startleingly phallic if
somewhat stubby-wide Cannister, with-a-lid ( of
course, ) as a present for my girlfriend to keep
her whatchamacallits in, and she really liked it,
and kept them in there, too...
Phil
Las V
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leigh Whitaker"
> What is the most unusual functional thing you
have made out of clay. I
> don't really mean unusually decorated or formed
(like a funky teapot), although
> you can tell me about those if you want to. But
I mean an unusual item, not a
> bowl/mug/vase/utensil holder/etc...
>
> Yeah, I'm looking for ideas. LOL.
>
> I am working on a terrarium right now. I bought
a glass fishbowl from
> Michael's craft store, and I've thrown a little
pot with a rim so that the
> fishbowl will sit upside down and be the lid of
the terrarium. That's not too
> unusual, but it's something, I guess.
>
> I want to make a hummingbird feeder, but I don't
think I have enough of the
> skills I need yet.
>
> My husband suggested I could make something
naughty, but I don't have my own
> kiln, so I wouldn't want to take that particular
type of item to the studio
> for firing.
>
> Anyway, if you want to, tell me about something
unusual you make.
Sue Roessel Dura on thu 11 jan 07
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 14:28:36 EST, you wrote:
>What is the most unusual functional thing you have made out of clay. I
>don't really mean unusually decorated or formed (like a funky teapot), =
although
>you can tell me about those if you want to. But I mean an unusual =
item, not a
>bowl/mug/vase/utensil holder/etc...
>
>Yeah, I'm looking for ideas. LOL.
Not all that unusual but a nice idea is an earring hanger. Just a =
cylinder with
the top brought out 90 degrees and small holes at the edge to hold =
pierced
earrings. Center 'cup' can hold a brush or comb. It's selling well =
here in
Rogersville ;-) Best, Sue
Nancy on thu 11 jan 07
Okay well maybe this is unusual or maybe not
I threw 2 bowls the same size, then scored and slipped the rims and put
one on top of the other. Trimmed the piece at the top to make a circle,
altered the shape and cut a 1" hole in the top. After firing, I filled
it with citronella oil, put a wick holder from one of those outdoor
torches in the hole and have a nice decorative tabletop citronella
torch. If we are eating, etc at the table I put a hurricane globe on top.
Nancy
www.hilltoppottery.com
Leigh Whitaker wrote:
> What is the most unusual functional thing you have made out of clay. I
> don't really mean unusually decorated or formed (like a funky teapot), although
> you can tell me about those if you want to. But I mean an unusual item, not a
> bowl/mug/vase/utensil holder/etc...
>
> Yeah, I'm looking for ideas. LOL.
>
> I am working on a terrarium right now. I bought a glass fishbowl from
> Michael's craft store, and I've thrown a little pot with a rim so that the
> fishbowl will sit upside down and be the lid of the terrarium. That's not too
> unusual, but it's something, I guess.
>
> I want to make a hummingbird feeder, but I don't think I have enough of the
> skills I need yet.
>
> My husband suggested I could make something naughty, but I don't have my own
> kiln, so I wouldn't want to take that particular type of item to the studio
> for firing.
>
> Anyway, if you want to, tell me about something unusual you make.
>
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L. P. Skeen on thu 11 jan 07
I once had a request for an urn for a gay male friend of mine. He
wanted one shaped like a penis, and glazed in Floating Blue. It was
made and fired in the kiln at the community center too. I made a tall
cylinder with a gallery and a flared out part at the top, then made a
bowl shape to fit down over the gallery, and no, there were no balls
attached at the base....
There was this older guy (to me, at the time - he was prolly 55 or
so...) in the studio w/ me at the time and I saw him kinda looking out
the corner of my eye while I was putting the thing together to check for
size. Finally, I looked up at him and asked if it looked like a penis
to him. After turning about 400 shades of red, he allowed as how it
certainly did, and I was done. ;) I now know, having done one that's
actually been USED, that the one I made for Jeff is way too small, but
we won't go there.....
I have also made pad soaking pots for folks who use flannel sanitary
pads instead of Kotex. My best friend makes condom boxes with
sgrafittoed couples having safe sex on the outside.
L
Leigh Whitaker wrote:
> What is the most unusual functional thing you have made out of clay.
>
Leigh Whitaker on fri 12 jan 07
In a message dated 1/12/2007 12:04:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
lpskeen@LIVING-TREE.NET writes:
I once had a request for an urn for a gay male friend of mine. He
wanted one shaped like a penis, and glazed in Floating Blue. It was
made and fired in the kiln at the community center too. I made a tall
cylinder with a gallery and a flared out part at the top, then made a
bowl shape to fit down over the gallery, and no, there were no balls
attached at the base....
There was this older guy (to me, at the time - he was prolly 55 or
so...) in the studio w/ me at the time and I saw him kinda looking out
the corner of my eye while I was putting the thing together to check for
size. Finally, I looked up at him and asked if it looked like a penis
to him. After turning about 400 shades of red, he allowed as how it
certainly did, and I was done. ;) I now know, having done one that's
actually been USED, that the one I made for Jeff is way too small, but
we won't go there.....
OMG! So, um, okay, nevermind... I was going to ask a question, but I don't
think I need to.
Leigh Whitaker on fri 12 jan 07
In a message dated 1/11/2007 11:57:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
nbraches@HILLTOPPOTTERY.COM writes:
I threw 2 bowls the same size, then scored and slipped the rims and put
one on top of the other. Trimmed the piece at the top to make a circle,
altered the shape and cut a 1" hole in the top. After firing, I filled
it with citronella oil, put a wick holder from one of those outdoor
torches in the hole and have a nice decorative tabletop citronella
torch. If we are eating, etc at the table I put a hurricane globe on top.
Very cool idea! Do you happen to have a picture of that? I'd like to see
it.
Leigh Whitaker on fri 12 jan 07
In a message dated 1/11/2007 11:31:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
srdura@HIWAAY.NET writes:
Not all that unusual but a nice idea is an earring hanger. Just a cylinder
with
the top brought out 90 degrees and small holes at the edge to hold pierced
earrings. Center 'cup' can hold a brush or comb. It's selling well here in
Rogersville ;-) Best, Sue
Oh, that is a cute idea! My niece would probably like something like that.
I noticed last time we visited, she had about 10,000 pairs of earrings. I
will give one of these a try!
Thanks!
Leigh Whitaker on fri 12 jan 07
In a message dated 1/11/2007 11:25:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET writes:
A 'Roach Trap'...being a sort of low, wide-ish,
lid-less Cannister form, having unglazed sides,
then, a slick-glazed funnel 'top' going 'in' and
down of course, at a moderately steep incline,
which has an ample opening at it's bottom.
That is certainly unusual! LMAO! I'm especially giggling about releasing
the roaches to somewhere else. Um yeah, like the toilet or the bottom of my
shoe?
I was so happy when we lived in Upstate NY, that there were no roaches
there. It was just too cold for them I guess. I was raised in Alabama, and I
have a crazy roach phobia. I did vision research before I quit to stay home
with the baby, and I've worked with all sorts of animals as model systems. I
can cut open a frog, and dissect it's eyes. I can even dissect a maggot's eyes
(fruit fly), but roaches skeeze me out big time.
Kathy McDonald on fri 12 jan 07
Leigh Whitaker wrote:
> What is the most unusual functional thing you have made
out of clay.
Well Leigh,,,
I thought long and hard before posting this,,,,, but
after reading about penis shaped urns and safe keepers (my
generation's term)
I thought the group might be able to handle this.
It really wasn't my idea (honest mom!!).....
but the most beautiful sculptural piece I have ever made is
an extruded
smoking apparatus. Hasn't been put to functional use since
about 1979!!
Probly still hidden in my closet somewhere.
Imagine a long extruded tube about 1/4 in diam.
A tiny bowl attached to a small hand built base.
Tube curved to fit the bowl.
Holes punched in the tube to control
volume of intake. It was a kind of ceremonial object.
I will use editorial discretion and say no more.
Kathy
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Neal on fri 12 jan 07
The most unusual pottery item I've made was an
invalid feeder.
Kathy's reminiscence from the '70s reminds me
of a sweet grandmotherly woman who rakued with
us at one of the city arts centers. She had a
small box with a pipe-size bowl on one corner.
When someone asked her what it was, she answered,
"A carburetor for my son." The person did not
know what she meant, but she explained it all
in detail.
Neal O'Briant
neal126@yahoo.com
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Lee Love on fri 12 jan 07
I have never made them, but the other day on Nan Demo, an antique
show, someone brought bizen fired ceramic grenades from WWII.
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Vince Pitelka on fri 12 jan 07
In undergraduate school, we had an assignment to make an unconventional
teapot. I made one that dispensed from the bottom. It had a wire bale
handle with a wood grip, and a ring that you pulled up on to dispense the
tea. The body of the teapot was approximately a sphere, and there was a
conical spout attached to the bottom, pointing straight down, with holes
through the sphere leading into the conical spout. A ring connected to a
vertical rod controlled a rubber flap sealing the holes in the bottom of the
sphere. The problem arose from the fact that the holes in the bottom of the
sphere would admit more of a volume of tea than could be accommodated by the
hole at the bottom of the spout, and by the fact that the tip of the spout
was rounded, with no sharp edge to break the surface tension. Thus, when
you pulled the ring, the conical spout would immediately fill with tea, and
would dispense from the bottom of the spout approximately like a garden
sprinkler, and when you released the ring, tea would continue to gurgle out
of the spout until it was empty. This teapot was beautiful to see, and
extraordinarly unsuccessful in use. But since that time, I have never
created another pot that was so entertaining.
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft, Tennessee Technological University
Smithville TN 37166, 615/597-6801 x111
vpitelka@dtccom.net, wpitelka@tntech.edu
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
http://www.tntech.edu/craftcenter/
Don Goodrich on fri 12 jan 07
Geez. I can't top Miz Skeen's contribution, but...
Some years ago I made some simple holders for stick incense.
Imagine a gingerbread man bent into a sitting position.
One hand is on the ground and the other held in front of
his navel (if he had a navel). At the crotch a small hole
for the end of the incense stick, flanked by a pair of
little clay balls. The raised hand, of course, holds the
incense in an appropriate position.
Maybe not naughty enough to be disqualified?
Don Goodrich wishing I'd taken pictures
L. P. Skeen on fri 12 jan 07
Speak for yerself you druggie you! ;)
L
Lois Ruben Aronow wrote:
> BONG. It's called a BONG. And we've all made them. Or used them. ;-)
>
>
Lois Ruben Aronow on fri 12 jan 07
BONG. It's called a BONG. And we've all made them. Or used them. ;-)
And yes, my dad knows. I, errr...gave him some herbal remedy for his 65th
birthday. Sweet story there, actually.
>It really wasn't my idea (honest mom!!).....
but the most beautiful sculptural piece I have ever made is an extruded
smoking apparatus. Hasn't been put to functional use since about 1979!!
Probly still hidden in my closet somewhere.
Ann Brink on fri 12 jan 07
That reminds me: When we still had our dog, I meant to make a container for
snail bait, that would be pet-safe. I'm picturing something like a casserole
with a "snail door" opening in the side. Those of you who live in areas
where it's too dry to have snails are lucky; I HATE them.
Ann Brink in Lompoc CA
(mostly about pottery)
Subject: Re: Unusual functional pottery?
> Oh yes... how about a toilet rat catcher!
> A recent article *
> http://www.azstarnet.com/dailystar/163589
>
> More on topic... French butter dishes were very popular last year.
>
>
L. P. Skeen on fri 12 jan 07
LOL Don, you and I BOTH should have taken pictures, although I guess I
could get Jeff to send me one now... Reckon the next calendar should
have the theme of "most unusual ceramic object"?
L
Don Goodrich wrote:
> Geez. I can't top Miz Skeen's contribution, but...
>
> Some years ago I made some simple holders for stick incense.
> Imagine a gingerbread man bent into a sitting position.
> One hand is on the ground and the other held in front of
> his navel (if he had a navel). At the crotch a small hole
> for the end of the incense stick, flanked by a pair of
> little clay balls. The raised hand, of course, holds the
> incense in an appropriate position.
>
> Maybe not naughty enough to be disqualified?
>
> Don Goodrich wishing I'd taken pictures
>
>
Gayle Bair on fri 12 jan 07
Oh yes... how about a toilet rat catcher!
A recent article *
http://www.azstarnet.com/dailystar/163589
More on topic... French butter dishes were very popular last year.
Gayle Bair... * note I do NOT live in that neighborhood and if I did I would
not live there long... a for sale sign would be placed out front immediately
if not sooner!
Bainbridge Island, WA
Tucson, AZ
www.claybair.com
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pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET writes:
A 'Roach Trap'...being a sort of low, wide-ish,
lid-less Cannister form, having unglazed sides,
then, a slick-glazed funnel 'top' going 'in' and
down of course, at a moderately steep incline,
which has an ample opening at it's bottom.
Leigh Whitaker on fri 12 jan 07
In a message dated 1/12/2007 10:59:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
potter@WESTMAN.WAVE.CA writes:
Imagine a long extruded tube about 1/4 in diam.
A tiny bowl attached to a small hand built base.
Tube curved to fit the bowl.
Holes punched in the tube to control
volume of intake. It was a kind of ceremonial object.
I will use editorial discretion and say no more.
Yes, I figured at least some people here had made some of these, even if
nobody actually fessed up to it. At a Mediterranean restaurant that we go to
they have a beautiful display of hookahs. Some are pottery, some are glass. I
don't know if they are for sale, but they are nice display pieces.
sacredclay on sat 13 jan 07
Down here in North Carolina, we have longer warm weather and so, a
bug's life is extended...and bigger. There is the flying tree roach aka
palmetto bugs. I don't care what they are called, but I know a g-
ddamned COCKROACH when I see one! The more trees you have in your area,
the more of them will get into your house at colder times.got so many
that we've named them tom, Dick and Harry. when you slam a shoe on
them, they make interesting Egyptian designs on the walls. I miss NY
sometimes! Kathryn in NC
>
> I was so happy when we lived in Upstate NY, that there were no roaches
> there. It was just too cold for them I guess. I was raised in
Snail Scott on sat 13 jan 07
At 07:34 PM 1/12/2007 -0800, Ann wrote:
>...Those of you who live in areas
>where it's too dry to have snails are lucky; I HATE them...
Saith Snail: "Pffffththtthtt!"
WJ Seidl on sat 13 jan 07
Lois, please forgive Lisa.
She is far too young to have been part of the 60's and 70's "experience"
that the rest of us enjoyed.
Best,
Wayne "No officer, that's OREGANO!" Seidl
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of L. P. Skeen
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 9:13 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: Unusual functional pottery?
Speak for yerself you druggie you! ;)
L
Lois Ruben Aronow wrote:
> BONG. It's called a BONG. And we've all made them. Or used them. ;-)
>
>
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Ann Brink on sat 13 jan 07
Ah, I should have said, "Present company excepted"!.
Ann Brink in Lompoc CA
(mostly about pottery)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Snail Scott"
> At 07:34 PM 1/12/2007 -0800, Ann wrote:
>>...Those of you who live in areas
>>where it's too dry to have snails are lucky; I HATE them...
>
>
> Saith Snail: "Pffffththtthtt!"
>
>
iglasgo on sat 13 jan 07
I hate snails too.
Then again, I also hate ivy.
The last house we moved into had a backyard covered with ivy, two feet
deep. So many rats nesting in there. I had to wear a bunny suit to
keep the heebie-jeebies off of me when I was pulling it out. I wanted
a flamethrower...
On topic- My unusual functional pottery is a cat trough. A canoe made
of joined bowls, each just large enough for one cat-snout. We have one
with four bowls and one with six. I've also been thinking about making
chairs.
-Ivy G.
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> At 07:34 PM 1/12/2007 -0800, Ann wrote:
> >...Those of you who live in areas
> >where it's too dry to have snails are lucky; I HATE them...
>
>
> Saith Snail: "Pffffththtthtt!"
>
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Lois Ruben Aronow on sat 13 jan 07
Ironically enough, I sell quite a few salt cellars to "older" people who say
it will be easy to get their pills out of them.
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Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 1:47 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: Unusual functional pottery?
The most unusual pottery item I've made was an invalid feeder.
Kathy's reminiscence from the '70s reminds me of a sweet grandmotherly woman
who rakued with us at one of the city arts centers. She had a small box with
a pipe-size bowl on one corner.
When someone asked her what it was, she answered, "A carburetor for my son."
The person did not know what she meant, but she explained it all in detail.
Neal O'Briant
neal126@yahoo.com
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Timothy Joko-Veltman on sun 14 jan 07
Not an original idea, but the most unusual thing I've made is a
lemon/orange juicer - thrown in one piece. Nothing spectacular, but
it's a good conversation starter, as most (non-potter) people have
never considered the possibility. Also because I make the ridges
horizontally (with a plastic serrated grout spatula), rather than
vertically - faster, and works just as well, but needs a good, durable
- but matte - glaze to be most effective (glossy glazes make you
depend more on how hard you can press down on the lemon).
Tim
Vince Pitelka on sun 14 jan 07
I never saw this one appear on Clayart, so I am reposting. Sorry if it is a
repeat.
In undergraduate school, we had an assignment to make an unconventional
teapot. I made one that dispensed from the bottom. It had a wire bale
handle with a wood grip, and a ring that you pulled up on to dispense the
tea. The body of the teapot was approximately a sphere, and there was a
conical spout attached to the bottom, pointing straight down, with holes
through the sphere leading into the conical spout. A ring connected to a
vertical rod controlled a rubber flap sealing the holes in the bottom of the
sphere. The problem arose from the fact that the holes in the bottom of the
sphere would admit more of a volume of tea than could be accommodated by the
hole at the bottom of the spout, and by the fact that the tip of the spout
was rounded, with no sharp edge to break the surface tension. Thus, when
you pulled the ring, the conical spout would immediately fill with tea, and
would dispense from the bottom of the spout approximately like a garden
sprinkler, and when you released the ring, tea would continue to gurgle out
of the spout until it was empty. This teapot was beautiful to see, and
extraordinarly unsuccessful in use. But since that time, I have never
created another pot that was so entertaining.
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft, Tennessee Technological University
Smithville TN 37166, 615/597-6801 x111
vpitelka@dtccom.net, wpitelka@tntech.edu
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
http://www.tntech.edu/craftcenter/
Leigh Whitaker on fri 19 jan 07
I think a salt cellar is another name for a salt shaker.
Hank Murrow on fri 19 jan 07
On Jan 19, 2007, at 5:10 PM, stonepaws wrote:
> What is a salt cellar?
I don't know about Lois' cellars, but mine are the shape of a natural
gas tank(cylindrical with a domed lid) about 2.5" diameter, the lid
begins around 2/3 up the side of the piece. I load them with sea salt
and a small scallop shell for use as a spoon. My wife asked me to make
them last year as Christmas gifts, and they have found a place among my
regular work.
I am particularly fond of the salt-fired ones.
Cheers, Hank
www.murrow.biz/hank
Lois Ruben Aronow on fri 19 jan 07
It is a little dish that holds salt - or whatever. I love making them (and
the photo on my web site is really the money shot). I put too much work
into them and don't really make them anymore, except for friends.
Side story - I did a show where a silversmith was across the aisle from me.
We traded a couple of salt cellars for a little silver spoon she made.
Perfect for the well-set table.
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What is a salt cellar?
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> Ironically enough, I sell quite a few salt cellars
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stonepaws on sat 20 jan 07
What is a salt cellar?
--- In clayart@yahoogroups.com, Lois Ruben Aronow wrote:
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> Ironically enough, I sell quite a few salt cellars
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