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recommended shipping w/paypal?

updated fri 26 jan 07

 

Overall's on tue 16 jan 07


Kayo is finalizing my website which will have PayPal
shopping. I am to decide about shipping and taxes
within the program.

What are experienced online sellers recommending to
do?

I'm quite good at wrapping and double boxing so I
prefer doing that myself.

At the guild we use one of two flat rates with UPS
next day pick for the best rate.

I need to decide here soon so she can get'er'done and
she's waiting on me.

I appreciate your advice!

Kim Overall
http://www.kimoverall.com

WJ Seidl on wed 17 jan 07


Kim:
Are your customers paying for shipping? If so, Paypal offers options.
They can buy and have it delivered next (business) day air if they want to
pay for it.

Are YOU paying the freight? Then flat rate sounds like a plan.

Best,
Wayne Seidl

-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Overall's
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 11:07 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: recommended shipping w/paypal?

Kayo is finalizing my website which will have PayPal
shopping. I am to decide about shipping and taxes
within the program.

What are experienced online sellers recommending to
do?

I'm quite good at wrapping and double boxing so I
prefer doing that myself.

At the guild we use one of two flat rates with UPS
next day pick for the best rate.

I need to decide here soon so she can get'er'done and
she's waiting on me.

I appreciate your advice!

Kim Overall
http://www.kimoverall.com

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Lois Ruben Aronow on thu 18 jan 07


Your customers are paying the freight.

-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of WJ Seidl
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 8:31 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: recommended shipping w/paypal?

Kim:
Are your customers paying for shipping? If so, Paypal offers options.
They can buy and have it delivered next (business) day air if they want to
pay for it.

Are YOU paying the freight? Then flat rate sounds like a plan.

Best,
Wayne Seidl

-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Overall's
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 11:07 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: recommended shipping w/paypal?

Kayo is finalizing my website which will have PayPal shopping. I am to
decide about shipping and taxes within the program.

What are experienced online sellers recommending to do?

I'm quite good at wrapping and double boxing so I prefer doing that myself.

At the guild we use one of two flat rates with UPS next day pick for the
best rate.

I need to decide here soon so she can get'er'done and she's waiting on me.

I appreciate your advice!

Kim Overall
http://www.kimoverall.com

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Kim Overall on fri 19 jan 07


I thought in PayPal it would be an option to charge by weight,
but it's either flat or percentage.

Everytime I try to default it to UPS it goes into a Forbidden page.

So...I don't know what's going to happen until it happens. If the customer
is overcharged I can refund the customer. If it's under, I'll go in and
edit the settings.

Thanks ya'll.

pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on fri 19 jan 07


Hi Kim,


What is the issue here?

I do not understand...

Is it the desire to automate Shipping Calculations
so you do not have to bother with them?

UPS is a rip-off, predicated on ignorant or
harries urbanites dropping into strip-mall stalls
because they do not know how to or have time to
think...that, and businesses who do not give a dam
about their customers money, so unless you wish to
be percieved AS indifferent and wasteful of your
customers money, you might wish to re-consider
defaulting them to it.

It will smell bad to anyoine who knows whats-what
shipping wise.

Try DSL or Fed-Ex or even the Post Office, and or
consider which KIND of shipping to use for what
kind of, or weight of item...instead...


Best wishes!

Phil
Las Vegas


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kim Overall"


> I thought in PayPal it would be an option to
charge by weight,
> but it's either flat or percentage.
>
> Everytime I try to default it to UPS it goes
into a Forbidden page.
>
> So...I don't know what's going to happen until
it happens. If the customer
> is overcharged I can refund the customer. If
it's under, I'll go in and
> edit the settings.
>
> Thanks ya'll.

pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on fri 19 jan 07


Hi Jean, all...


Yea, the whole matter, I'd say, resolves on one's
ultimately being familiar with varying Shippers
and their Classes and Catagorys, and, of various
ways of deferentially packing items, so that the
Class or Catagory of shipping, and way of
packaging, and the costs, all make sense for the
item(s) being shipped.


What I have found so irritating or objectionable,
is sellers who insist to ship items
inapproipriately as to Class or Catagory of
Shipment, whether or not packaged sensibly, and
with co-respondingly inappropriately high rates.


I have purchases small Brochures on e-bay, which
weighed less than an Ounce and could be Mailed in
a regular Envelope for .37 Cents, where the seller
insists to ship ( out of stupidity as habit?) it
in a so-called "Flat Rate" box for $8.50...as just
one example (I among many, ) of idiots...

Many businesses similarly, annoy me anyway, with
their ONLY option being some hyped rate UPS deal,
where, again, something which could be Mailed in
albeit, say, a re-inforced Envelope, for less than
one Dollar, they will ship to me for $13.82 UPS
in-a-overize-box, at the "screw you" rate they use
for "everyone".

Makes my blood boil...

Too, of course, packaging Ceramics or other
fragile items is a chore..!

But most things, are not...


Lol...

Phil
l v



----- Original Message -----
From: "Jean"



> Hi,
>
> When I set up my web site I agonized with this
problem and was rabidly
> convinced that I had to know those shipping
costs. You know it's not like
> my brother who makes beautiful cue sticks. No
matter how expensive the cue,
> it is still the same size and weight. Our work
varies greatly in weight and
> dimension. Shipping costs change, change,
change. Therefore, this is my
> solution. I have the patron pay up front for
the work and they agree to pay
> the shipping costs when they receive the goods.
When it is ready to ship I
> take it to a shipping company and have them pack
it professionally. I take
> two typed up invoices with me. Whatever this
company charges me, I write on
> the invoices as money due me. I pay the costs
and the patron reimburses me
> this amount. I've never been stuck for the
shipping and handling. I tell
> them up front that it is very expensive. For
wholesale I try to keep sales
> within a two and a half hour distance. I either
deliver the goods or they
> come pick it up. I'm a small business and this
feels like the best solution
> for me.
>
> Jean Wadsworth Cochran
> www.foxhollowpottery.com
>
>
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Lee Love on fri 19 jan 07


Check out Google Checkout too. Their rates are lower and you use your
fees in exchange for Google Ads:

http://www.google.com/checkout/

--
Lee in Mashiko, Japan
Minneapolis, Minnesota USA
http://potters.blogspot.com/
"Let the beauty we love be what we do." - Rumi
"When we all do better. We ALL do better." -Paul Wellstone

Jean on fri 19 jan 07


Hi,

When I set up my web site I agonized with this problem and was rabidly
convinced that I had to know those shipping costs. You know it's not like
my brother who makes beautiful cue sticks. No matter how expensive the cue,
it is still the same size and weight. Our work varies greatly in weight and
dimension. Shipping costs change, change, change. Therefore, this is my
solution. I have the patron pay up front for the work and they agree to pay
the shipping costs when they receive the goods. When it is ready to ship I
take it to a shipping company and have them pack it professionally. I take
two typed up invoices with me. Whatever this company charges me, I write on
the invoices as money due me. I pay the costs and the patron reimburses me
this amount. I've never been stuck for the shipping and handling. I tell
them up front that it is very expensive. For wholesale I try to keep sales
within a two and a half hour distance. I either deliver the goods or they
come pick it up. I'm a small business and this feels like the best solution
for me.

Jean Wadsworth Cochran
www.foxhollowpottery.com

Lee Love on sat 20 jan 07


I don't see a problem. I just look the weight up on a chart and
then charge actual cost.

In time, you will know about how much all your items weigh.
Just takes experience.

--
Lee in Mashiko, Japan
Minneapolis, Minnesota USA
http://potters.blogspot.com/
"Let the beauty we love be what we do." - Rumi
"When we all do better. We ALL do better." -Paul Wellstone

Kim Overall on mon 22 jan 07


Phil,

I didn't realize UPS was as bad as all that.

I'll scope out DHL, but I thought USPS would be the highest of them all.

Research will continue...

All opinions appreciated.

Kim in Houston

Gary Navarre on thu 25 jan 07


Hi Folks,

Well I'm gonna try this again using IE cause I'm tired of always getting
the g...... proxy server error.. over in Firefox... thought I had a great
spheel goin ready to send and sure as hell wasn't gonna save a wa.ex???
whatever. There are some other issues with Firefox I'll get to.

Gee Kim, your site looks pretty clean and easy to load. I think I need to
make a collection of sites to use as a model for when I get that goin on.

For what it might be worth I thought we did pretty good with helping me
with the shipping with PayPal and FedEx. A couple years ago I checked into
UPS at the Norway drop off site and they included a $5 "bridge fee" so I
went to FedEx and opened an account. They have an easy to use Quick Quote
feature that is pretty accurate, I think, and I get a discount for having
an account which is a savings to the customer... if you seperate product
and shipping payment, I think, if recal serves me. I thought it
interesting Wayne could pay for the shipping with his account but I think
it was simpler in my mind to take care of it on this end. That might have
been because I wasn't sure of the exact weight at their scale and used a
shop scale for estimating. Still it was pretty close for the Quickquote. I
probably jumped protocol and shipped before all moneys arrived in PayPal
but "we" trust each other. I got a bit concerned when the charges had not
shown up in my account but it took a while to process. I think I'm gonno
set up a seperate account so I don't overdraw my cash. I think that is
supposed to be more secure too.

A while back someone wondered if any of us had a 2D side to our work.
Hadn't thought about it much since Mom and my real father Tom were the
painters in the family. I usta draw and modled for the universitys for
three years so I heard all the lectures but I guess I like the camera.
However, when I was last down below I realized Mom has a huge collection
of paintings she made over the years until she stoped working when Walter
got sick. What I'm wondering is how da hal do we pack all the glass framed
and matted pieces. I can probably take care of smaller pictures but the
large ones I've never looked into what works best other than hiring
professionals. We are gonna have to do this at one time or another and I
would like Mom to be involved. It would be a load off her mind if she knew
her work would be moved without damage. Some of the last work she did was
a series of Greenfield Village buildings on site, "Edger Allen Poe's
House" and others before the renovations. I proved to her how easy it is
to sell our work when I had my friend Audie send her a check for
some "trinkets" we sold through her Ebay site.

Maybe I'm loosing topic now but back to the Firefox issue, (maybe not).
I've been working on a "Suitable For Framing" folder in Fotki for prints
lagrer than 5x7 because I finally figured out how to get the full file
size uploaded to make enlargments. Seems I had the XP Wixard set to resize
everything for screen viewing. So now I can order enlargements and made a
test of a bunch of 11x14's but couldn't complete it through Firefox. They
are working on it but Internet Explorer and Netsacpe work fine. I used IE
and am sitting on pins and needles wating for my prints of fireworks, Lady
Slipper, landscapes, and mushrooms. If they look halfway decent I'll make
the folder public. Also for some reason they are not set up to take PayPal
for prints yet but do for their membership fee. Their working on that too.
Dono what it has to do with so I guess I'm done,ah.

Wuhu hay thanks for the help and stay in there ah!

G in da U.P.


On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 20:30:30 -0500, WJ Seidl wrote:

>Kim:
>Are your customers paying for shipping? If so, Paypal offers options.
>They can buy and have it delivered next (business) day air if they want to
>pay for it.
>
>Are YOU paying the freight? Then flat rate sounds like a plan.
>
>Best,
>Wayne Seidl
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Overall's
>Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 11:07 PM
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: recommended shipping w/paypal?
>
>Kayo is finalizing my website which will have PayPal
>shopping. I am to decide about shipping and taxes
>within the program.
>
>What are experienced online sellers recommending to
>do?
>
>I'm quite good at wrapping and double boxing so I
>prefer doing that myself.
>
>At the guild we use one of two flat rates with UPS
>next day pick for the best rate.
>
>I need to decide here soon so she can get'er'done and
>she's waiting on me.
>
>I appreciate your advice!
>
>Kim Overall
>http://www.kimoverall.com
>
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>melpots@pclink.com.
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