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i fire the kilns, i fire the kilns...(was, picasso,

updated fri 23 mar 07

 

Victoria E. Hamilton on sat 3 mar 07

etc.)

Yayyyyyyy, Pat!

As one of a team of 3 who fire the reduction kiln at our community studio, I
am in complete agreement around "who are the artists." Also,
acknowledgement for beautiful work that comes from one of our firings
because our team is knowledgeable, attentive and critical is a really lovely
and deserved experience.

Thank you.

Vicki Hamilton
Millennia Antica Pottery
Seattle, WA

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From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Pat Colyar
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Subject: [CLAYART] I fire the kilns, I fire the kilns...(was, Picasso, etc.)

(to be sung to the tune of "I Write the Songs")

I've been thinking about this can of worms ever since I saw work in a
well-known ceramics mag that I had fired, but was "made" by another artist,
and several pieces in a Lark book that I am pretty sure were not fired by
the person that threw and decorated them.
As a ceramics tech and instructor who fires a lot of others' work, I
would like to occasionally get some recognition for the part my cone 10
firing expertise plays in the excellence of the work. Perhaps in addition
to the customary "Photo by Joe Blow", another line saying "Firing by Susie
Whosis" would be appropriate.
Or how about this one: I throw the pieces, they're altered by the
Artist, then sent to a large group woodfiring where the flashing and ash
effects, orchestrated by the people loading and firing the kiln, complete
the piece. So tell me, who is the artist here?
I'm not interested much in the discussion wandering off into the "well,
who digs their own clay" or "who's a "real" potter discussion, but mostly,
does anyone else but me think that a potter should be able to fire their own
work, or at the bare minimum, know HOW to?

Pat (proud to be a tech) Colyar, in damp Gold Bar, WA

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sacredclay on sun 4 mar 07

etc.)-Wadding question

Lee, and others, Forgive me for an incredible stupid question, but I
wanted to know if those circular marks on the wood fired pieces are
coused by the waddings? If so, then why are the pots laid to sides and
not on their feet? Only did one woodfiring once, but wasn't there to
unload the kiln so I missed alot of info there. Warmly, Kathryn ---

Pam Cresswell on sun 4 mar 07

etc.)

Hi clayarters
I am one of three volunteer folk who fire the big community gas kiln at my
Guild. I am thrilled when something I fired for someone else comes out great
:) Written recognition for us three or better yet the Guild, would be cool
when one of our artists gets published, but not really a big deal. I think
it is unrealistic for every potter to have a fuel burning kiln and do ^10
reduction in their backyards. That is why we have a Guild. Life and making
art is a continuum, with lots of stops along the way. Many potters here
eventually set up home studios with electric or other kinds of kilns, but
until you are ready for that financial undertaking, community studios are a
wonderful way to go. Those folks who are going to do this for all their
lives will learn to fire eventually, because they will want to be more in
control of their work, but till then, we will fire for them.
Pam, waiting for spring in KC

Mary Leither on thu 22 mar 07

etc.)-Wadding question

yes the little spots are from the wadding, but placement can be used to
affect how the ash is deposited or how the flame travels across the piece
so this is why sometimes pieces are laid on their sides or upside down or
stacked for different effects. Wadding is sometimes placed in shells so
that the marks are more decorative when the pieces must be supported from
the inside. Flashing slips are used to record the passage of the flame.
Side placement allows for little navel jewels to form--Think Dick Lehman
bottles, and upside down bowls/plates keep them free from ash and allow
comets to develop around the wads. Mary

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etc.)-Wadding question


Lee, and others, Forgive me for an incredible stupid question, but I
wanted to know if those circular marks on the wood fired pieces are
coused by the waddings? If so, then why are the pots laid to sides and
not on their feet? Only did one woodfiring once, but wasn't there to
unload the kiln so I missed alot of info there. Warmly, Kathryn ---

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