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kiln problems/repair in central nj?

updated thu 8 mar 07

 

Kristina Chadwick on sun 4 mar 07


I have a Skutt 1027 Single Phase w/ KM; I bought it used about a year ago
in very good condition with few firings. I fired it severe times myself
(bisque and cone 5 glaze). The only repair I've done so far was to replace
the power plug (which shorted, supposedly due to stress on the cord). I
fired successfully twice after replacing the plug.

During my last firing (cone 5 glaze), the computer indicated that the kiln
reached 1090 deg C and then got "Err1". From that point on the computer
turns on, I can set up the program (the thermocouple registers a
temperature), but the kiln doesn't kick on. Any ideas of what might be
wrong?

I'm thinking I may need to have someone come out and take a look, any
repair person recommendations that won't cost an arm and a leg in travel
alone? I live in central NJ.

I'd appreciate any recommendations.

Thanks,
Kristina

Earl Brunner on sun 4 mar 07


that translates to Error 1, An oprators manual, (I don't have one at home) would tell you what that error is and that would indicate what needed to be done to correct it.

Kristina Chadwick wrote: I have a Skutt 1027 Single Phase w/ KM; I bought it used about a year ago
in very good condition with few firings. I fired it severe times myself
(bisque and cone 5 glaze). The only repair I've done so far was to replace
the power plug (which shorted, supposedly due to stress on the cord). I
fired successfully twice after replacing the plug.

During my last firing (cone 5 glaze), the computer indicated that the kiln
reached 1090 deg C and then got "Err1". From that point on the computer
turns on, I can set up the program (the thermocouple registers a
temperature), but the kiln doesn't kick on. Any ideas of what might be
wrong?

I'm thinking I may need to have someone come out and take a look, any
repair person recommendations that won't cost an arm and a leg in travel
alone? I live in central NJ.

I'd appreciate any recommendations.

Thanks,
Kristina

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Lois Ruben Aronow on sun 4 mar 07


Why guess? Call Perry at Skutt 1-503-774-6000 x234

-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Kristina
Chadwick
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 4:55 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Kiln Problems/Repair in Central NJ?

I have a Skutt 1027 Single Phase w/ KM; I bought it used about a year ago in
very good condition with few firings. I fired it severe times myself
(bisque and cone 5 glaze). The only repair I've done so far was to replace
the power plug (which shorted, supposedly due to stress on the cord). I
fired successfully twice after replacing the plug.

During my last firing (cone 5 glaze), the computer indicated that the kiln
reached 1090 deg C and then got "Err1". From that point on the computer
turns on, I can set up the program (the thermocouple registers a
temperature), but the kiln doesn't kick on. Any ideas of what might be
wrong?

I'm thinking I may need to have someone come out and take a look, any repair
person recommendations that won't cost an arm and a leg in travel alone? I
live in central NJ.

I'd appreciate any recommendations.

Thanks,
Kristina

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Carl Finch on sun 4 mar 07


At 01:55 PM 3/4/2007, Kristina Chadwick wrote:
>I have a Skutt 1027 Single Phase w/ KM; I bought it used about a year ago
>in very good condition with few firings. I fired it severe times myself
>(bisque and cone 5 glaze). The only repair I've done so far was to replace
>the power plug (which shorted, supposedly due to stress on the cord). I
>fired successfully twice after replacing the plug.
>
>During my last firing (cone 5 glaze), the computer indicated that the kiln
>reached 1090 deg C and then got "Err1". From that point on the computer
>turns on, I can set up the program (the thermocouple registers a
>temperature), but the kiln doesn't kick on. Any ideas of what might be
>wrong?

One thing wrong, Kristina, is that you don't have Skutt's excellent
user manual! :-)

Go to their web site, www.skutt.com , and download a copy (it's in PDF form).

From page 40 ("Appendix 4 -- Error Messages" ten errors are documented):

Error 1 -- Description: Ramping up and rate is less than 12 degrees
per hour. Rise is checked every 7.5 minutes. Rate must persist for
22.5 minutes before display.
-- Possible cause: Kiln-sitter had tripped. Limit timer
has expired. Elements are weak. Load is heavy. Relay failed. Low voltage.
-- Correction: Place one cone hotter in kiln-sitter. Add
time to limit timer. Check elements. Reduce size of load. Check
Relays. Check voltage.

Seems to me these are all things you can do (or can easily learn to
do) for yourself! The how-to of all of them has been discussed on
Clayart in the past.

--Carl
in Medford, Oregon

claystevslat on mon 5 mar 07


Kristina --

I don't have a Skutt manual, but I think that Error 1 is
failure to keep the temperature rising. Unless you have
power supply problems this usually indicates an element
failure; less commonly a relay failure. I believe there's
a separate error code for a thermocouple failure.

I'd recommend checking the elements first to see if one
has failed (replacing elements is fairly straitforward, and
you can do it yourself). It also doesn't require a manual,
which you should probably plan on getting for your kiln
anyway. You'd most likely need that to get the specs to
replace the relay if the problem is with the relay.

JMTC -- Steve S



--- In clayart@yahoogroups.com, Kristina Chadwick
wrote:
>
> I have a Skutt 1027 Single Phase w/ KM; I bought it used about a
year ago
> in very good condition with few firings. I fired it severe times
myself
> (bisque and cone 5 glaze). The only repair I've done so far was
to replace
> the power plug (which shorted, supposedly due to stress on the
cord). I
> fired successfully twice after replacing the plug.
>
> During my last firing (cone 5 glaze), the computer indicated that
the kiln
> reached 1090 deg C and then got "Err1". From that point on the
computer
> turns on, I can set up the program (the thermocouple registers a
> temperature), but the kiln doesn't kick on. Any ideas of what
might be
> wrong?

Kristina Chadwick on mon 5 mar 07


Thanks for the replies. I do have the manual.
My biggest issue is that the kiln does not click on when you press start
(the familiar sound of the elements getting the signal to heat up is
absent). Would this suggest element failure?

Thanks Lois for Perry's number, I will give him a call.

Kristina

Kathi LeSueur on mon 5 mar 07


Kristina Chadwick wrote:

>I have a Skutt 1027 Single Phase w/ KM; I bought it used about a year ago
>in very good condition with few firings. I fired it severe times myself
>(bisque and cone 5 glaze). The only repair I've done so far was to replace
>the power plug (which shorted, supposedly due to stress on the cord). I
>fired successfully twice after replacing the plug.
>
>During my last firing (cone 5 glaze), the computer indicated that the kiln
>reached 1090 deg C and then got "Err1". From that point on the computer
>turns on, I can set up the program (the thermocouple registers a
>temperature), but the kiln doesn't kick on. Any ideas of what might be
>wrong?
>
>
>
>
That message on my controller means that the thermocouple is either bad
or not connected properly (such as a loose wire). Check the connections,
but my bet is you need a new one. It's easy to replace. I always keep
one on hand.

Kathi

John Fulwood on mon 5 mar 07


Hi Kristina,

I wanted to say hello to a fellow NJ potter and invite you to stop by the studio if you are ever in the Frenchtown area.

I agree that the best way to solve your kiln dilemma is to contact a skutt rep.

Good Luck,

John Fulwood

-----Original Message-----
>From: Kristina Chadwick
>Sent: Mar 4, 2007 4:55 PM
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Kiln Problems/Repair in Central NJ?
>
>I have a Skutt 1027 Single Phase w/ KM; I bought it used about a year ago
>in very good condition with few firings. I fired it severe times myself
>(bisque and cone 5 glaze). The only repair I've done so far was to replace
>the power plug (which shorted, supposedly due to stress on the cord). I
>fired successfully twice after replacing the plug.
>
>During my last firing (cone 5 glaze), the computer indicated that the kiln
>reached 1090 deg C and then got "Err1". From that point on the computer
>turns on, I can set up the program (the thermocouple registers a
>temperature), but the kiln doesn't kick on. Any ideas of what might be
>wrong?
>
>I'm thinking I may need to have someone come out and take a look, any
>repair person recommendations that won't cost an arm and a leg in travel
>alone? I live in central NJ.
>
>I'd appreciate any recommendations.
>
>Thanks,
>Kristina
>
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John Fulwood
Kissimmee River Pottery
One 8th St. #11
Frenchtown, NJ. 08825
www.kissimmeeriverpottery.com

Arnold Howard on mon 5 mar 07


From: "Kristina Chadwick"
> My biggest issue is that the kiln does not click on when
> you press start
> (the familiar sound of the elements getting the signal to
> heat up is
> absent). Would this suggest element failure?

The controller sends a signal to the relays when it is time
for the relays to turn on the heating elements. From what
you describe, the relays are not receiving the signal.

I would test the controller relay-output terminals with a
voltmeter in DC mode. Low voltage means a weak transformer;
no signal means something is wrong with the controller. I
would also visually check for damaged or disconnected
controller-to-relay wires.

Usually the problem is minor. But in the worst-case
scenario, Bartlett Instruments can probably refurbish your
board for around $75.00.

Sincerely,

Arnold Howard
Paragon Industries, L.P., Mesquite, Texas USA
ahoward@paragonweb.com / www.paragonweb.com

Kristina Chadwick on wed 7 mar 07


Spoke to Perry (who was excellent to work with). Looks like a relay
upgrade is in order. Will pick up the kit this weekend and hopefully get
everything back in working order.
Kristina

Lois Ruben Aronow on wed 7 mar 07


Glad this worked out. He has saved my life many times over. I have only
wonderful things to say about Skutt's Tech support and customer service.


>Spoke to Perry (who was excellent to work with). Looks like a relay
upgrade is in order. Will pick up the kit this weekend and hopefully get
everything back in working order.
Kristina


...Lo

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