Marni Turkel on sat 3 mar 07
I am making myself crazy searching on the internet and realized that
someone on the list may know where I can find what I'm looking for. I
want a wire in the 18-24 guage range that is black, but will not rust
or corrode. I want to use it in a project for an electric fence.
Coated wires won't work because that would insulate and not conduct
the electricity when there is contact between the hot and neutral
wires. It is being used by a fish pond, so I don't want copper
because of possible copper toxicity.
I have been looking at sites with colored anodized aluminum, but
haven't found one with fine guage wire AND a shopping cart system
that works. I have also investigated black galvanized wire and black
stainless steel. I'm sure they exist, I just can't find where to buy
them. I don't want a cargo container full, more like hundreds of feet.
Any suggestions as to where to look would be greatly appreciated.
Marni
Marni Turkel
Stony Point Ceramic Design
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Fredrick Paget on sun 4 mar 07
>I am making myself crazy searching on the internet and realized that
>someone on the list may know where I can find what I'm looking for. I
>want a wire in the 18-24 guage range that is black, but will not rust
>or corrode. I want to use it in a project for an electric fence.
>Coated wires won't work because that would insulate and not conduct
>the electricity when there is contact between the hot and neutral
>wires. It is being used by a fish pond, so I don't want copper
>because of possible copper toxicity.
>Marni
Marni,
Are you going to hook this wire up to an electric fence controller to
keep raccoons out of the fish pond?
If so I think you can spray paint some regular galvanized steel wire
with a thin coat of dull black Krylon paint and it won't insulate the
wire enough to stop that high voltage.
The hard part will be finding a volunteer to test it.
Fred
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Twin Dragon Studio
Mill Valley, CA, USA
Marni Turkel on sun 4 mar 07
Fred,
Thanks for the suggestion. Over the years I've learned I can count on
you to come up with interesting ideas to solve problems.
This is for the "Electric Barrel Rim" I'm working on. I make a
Ceramic Barrel Rim Kit used to convert a half wine barrel into a
water garden. Since a lot of potential customers have problems with
raccoons, I started working on this project about a year and want to
introduce it at the San Francisco Flower & Garden Show in 2 weeks.
They are a bit hard to imagine, but you can see the rims at
http://www.marniturkel.com/barrelrims.html. Hopefully in a few more
days I'll have the Electric Rim up there too.
Since I'm hoping to sell more than just a few, I do want to be able
to purchase a ready to use wire. I did find a possible solution
today. I found some stainless steel trolling line from the sporting
goods store that is a "camouflage brown". It is uncoated and doesn't
kink. (Good cut-off wire material.) The rims are available in 4 glaze
colors and none of them look particularly good with bare wire. I want
something that disappears and I'm still hoping for a black wire.
I can find black stainless steel wire on Google, but the only
references are to manufacturers in China and I'm not looking for a
cargo container. I was investigating anodized aluminum in various
colors, but couldn't find a supplier. I'm still hoping to find a
retail (or small wholesale) source for black wire in the US, but at
least now I have something that I'm OK with.
And as far as testing it, the first time I put one together I didn't
have a volt meter with me. The friend who's garden it was in, wanted
to test it, but just couldn't make himself do it. I finally decided
that if it wouldn't kill a raccoon, it wouldn't kill me so just put
my hand on it. It isn't something one forgets! No wonder the raccoons
don't touch it a second time.
Marni
>Marni,
>Are you going to hook this wire up to an electric fence controller to
>keep raccoons out of the fish pond?
>If so I think you can spray paint some regular galvanized steel wire
>with a thin coat of dull black Krylon paint and it won't insulate the
>wire enough to stop that high voltage.
>The hard part will be finding a volunteer to test it.
>Fred
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>Twin Dragon Studio
Mill Valley, CA, USA
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Marni Turkel
Marni Turkel on sun 4 mar 07
Fred,
I forgot to answer the question about the electric fence controller.
Yes, the wires will be hooked up to a transformer designed to be used
with electric animal fence.
Marni
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Marni Turkel
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