Craig Clark on tue 6 mar 07
Leigh, yes you can throw these tiny suacers off the hump and you remove
them the same as you would any other piece that you throw off the hump.
Just pass your wire underneath the form with sufficient thickness of
bottom. Then lift the piece with you fingers spread wide around it and
place quickly onto a waiting flat surface. If you leave an inch or so of
clay thickness on the bottom until you get the hang of it the process
will be much easier. Just trim off the extra as you normally would.
Hope this helps
Craig Dunn Clark
619 East 11 1/2 St
Houston, Texas 77008
(713)861-2083
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Leigh Whitaker wrote:
> Is there any way to throw a little plate from a hump? I've made my daughter
> a cute little teapot, and I wanted to attempt an entire tea set. So I need
> to make saucers, maybe about 2 inches in diameter, and little plates ~3
> inches. I was trying to figure out how to do this without centering, ya know, 20
> grams of clay. I find it difficult to center tiny amounts, but I can't
> figure out how I'd remove the little plates after cutting them.
>
> Leigh
>
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Leigh Whitaker on tue 6 mar 07
Is there any way to throw a little plate from a hump? I've made my daughter
a cute little teapot, and I wanted to attempt an entire tea set. So I need
to make saucers, maybe about 2 inches in diameter, and little plates ~3
inches. I was trying to figure out how to do this without centering, ya know, 20
grams of clay. I find it difficult to center tiny amounts, but I can't
figure out how I'd remove the little plates after cutting them.
Leigh
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threereeds1 on tue 6 mar 07
Leigh,
I'm going out on a limb here. I like to never give advice but from
experience. Then I will share what I have experienced whether
it fits the dogma of consensus or not. This one I can only guess at.
Suppose I would really make a small plaster press mould.
But...If you want to throw off the Hump...
I would first try using firm clay...undercut saucer as much as
possible with a pointy stick...and cut it off by inserting a needle tool
in from the side. Support the plate with thumb and finger and the needle
will pick up the saucer and you can then slide it off.
I used to do this with narrow topped goblet handles...inverted of course.
Are you thinking of a foot ring?
Interesting challenge.
Will like to see other thoughts.
Be Well,
Tom King
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leigh Whitaker"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: hump throwing, another question
> Is there any way to throw a little plate from a hump? I've made my
> daughter
> a cute little teapot, and I wanted to attempt an entire tea set. So I
> need
> to make saucers, maybe about 2 inches in diameter, and little plates ~3
> inches. I was trying to figure out how to do this without centering, ya
> know, 20
> grams of clay. I find it difficult to center tiny amounts, but I can't
> figure out how I'd remove the little plates after cutting them.
>
> Leigh
>
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Elizabeth Priddy on tue 6 mar 07
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Lee Love on wed 7 mar 07
Yes, you can throw them off the hump. I throw most of my small
dishes off the hump.
--
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Minneapolis, Minnesota USA
http://potters.blogspot.com/
"To affect the quality of the day, that is the highest of arts." -
Henry David Thoreau
"Let the beauty we love be what we do." - Rumi
claystevslat on wed 7 mar 07
Leigh --
Two ways I know -- one easy, the other just a slight hassle to
learn but useful for other things.
Easy way -- don't throw 'em. Make pinch pots. For 2 in. diameter
or thereabouts it takes just seconds to make a dish or bowl, and
sizing them to get a set is not an issue.
Slight hassle -- center a pug, make a really small knob on the top
and quickly throw your dish or whatever. Don't worry about what's
underneath.
Now, at a fairly high speed, cut under the piece to form the outline
of the bottom. Make a point of doing this smoothly, and don't leave
lots of scrap clay behind (I find split bamboo tools best for this).
About an inch BELOW that on the mound make a wide angle cut, big
enough to lift easily with fingertips. No need for the second cut
to be special.
Now, use a string to cut off first right under the bottom, then
again in the wide angle cut. Lift the piece off from the bottom of
the wide wedge cut. Let it dry to near-leather hard or just leather
hard, then peel the waster off the bottom of the piece.
You have lots of clay to recycle with this method, but it's a great
way to make flat-bottomed lids as it totally eliminates trimming.
-- Steve Slatin
--- In clayart@yahoogroups.com, Leigh Whitaker
wrote:
>
> Is there any way to throw a little plate from a hump? I've made
my daughter
> a cute little teapot, and I wanted to attempt an entire tea set.
So I need
> to make saucers, maybe about 2 inches in diameter, and little
plates ~3
> inches. I was trying to figure out how to do this without
centering, ya know, 20
> grams of clay. I find it difficult to center tiny amounts, but I
can't
> figure out how I'd remove the little plates after cutting them.
Lois Ruben Aronow on wed 7 mar 07
Absolutely - I do it all the time. I know that others have suggested press
molds, but I think throwing off the hump is fastest.
Tea sets are ideal for this method of throwing.
***
Lois Ruben Aronow Ceramics
www.loisaronow.com
www.craftsofthedamned.blogspot.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Leigh Whitaker
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:01 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: hump throwing, another question
Is there any way to throw a little plate from a hump? I've made my
daughter
a cute little teapot, and I wanted to attempt an entire tea set. So I need
to make saucers, maybe about 2 inches in diameter, and little plates ~3
inches. I was trying to figure out how to do this without centering, ya
know, 20 grams of clay. I find it difficult to center tiny amounts, but I
can't figure out how I'd remove the little plates after cutting them.
Leigh
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Michael Wendt on wed 7 mar 07
Leigh,
This is a job for rod and restand, not
the hump. With rod and restand you
don't need to center very well to get
perfectly flat disks since all the run
out vertically goes away when you
rod and the uneven edge is pin tooled
to make the disk round.
Once the disk is the required diameter
and thickness, it is restood with very
little effort and your project is a
perfect opportunity to try the method
and learn how to make uniform plates
very quickly.
See the video clip at:
http://www.wendtpottery.com/workshop.htm
Regards,
Michael Wendt
Wendt Pottery
2729 Clearwater Ave
Lewiston, ID 83501
USA
208-746-3724
http://www.wendtpottery.com
wendtpot@lewiston.com
--- In clayart@yahoogroups.com, Leigh Whitaker
wrote:
>
> Is there any way to throw a little plate from a hump?
I've made
my daughter
> a cute little teapot, and I wanted to attempt an
entire tea set.
So I need
> to make saucers, maybe about 2 inches in diameter,
and little
plates ~3
> inches. I was trying to figure out how to do this
without
centering, ya know, 20
> grams of clay. I find it difficult to center tiny
amounts, but I
can't
> figure out how I'd remove the little plates after
cutting them.
Mark Tigges on wed 7 mar 07
On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 08:01:06PM -0500, Leigh Whitaker wrote:
> Is there any way to throw a little plate from a hump? I've made my daughter
> a cute little teapot, and I wanted to attempt an entire tea set. So I need
> to make saucers, maybe about 2 inches in diameter, and little plates ~3
> inches. I was trying to figure out how to do this without centering, ya know, 20
> grams of clay. I find it difficult to center tiny amounts, but I can't
> figure out how I'd remove the little plates after cutting them.
I use a tool to cut a groove some kind of wooden modelling tool, then
wire cut off ... then a flexible metal rib ... slide it into the cut
made by the wire. Make sure the rib is wet. lift, and then tilt the
rib a little to slide it off onto your board.
Mark.
--
http://www.m2crafts.ca
m2crafts [at] gmail
WJ Seidl on wed 7 mar 07
Lee:
If you scroll down toward the bottom of Michael's page, you can see
the button for the video. It is below the static pictures.
Clicking on the button opens a viewer (Windows) which may require that
Windows load an Active X control.
Best,
Wayne Seidl
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Lee Love
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 10:20 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: hump throwing, another question
On 3/7/07, Michael Wendt wrote:
> See the video clip at:
Can you give the exact link to the clip. All I can find is an
advertisment for the DVD.
Looks like you can only make a particular kind of dish. I
find that the most interesting aspect of plates and platters is a nice
curve.
--
Lee in Mashiko, Japan
Minneapolis, Minnesota USA
http://potters.blogspot.com/
"To affect the quality of the day, that is the highest of arts." -
Henry David Thoreau
"Let the beauty we love be what we do." - Rumi
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ReynolPE on wed 7 mar 07
Has anyone ever posted a close up picture of what they are using for
a restand tool. I reall want to try this method but I am not sure
what the tool should look like. So if anyone has one they use could
you please post a picture of it that shows it a little closer up
then what Wendt Pottery shows. Thanks.
--- In clayart@yahoogroups.com, Michael Wendt wrote:
>
> Leigh,
> This is a job for rod and restand, not
> the hump. With rod and restand you
> don't need to center very well to get
> perfectly flat disks since all the run
> out vertically goes away when you
> rod and the uneven edge is pin tooled
> to make the disk round.
> Once the disk is the required diameter
> and thickness, it is restood with very
> little effort and your project is a
> perfect opportunity to try the method
> and learn how to make uniform plates
> very quickly.
> See the video clip at:
> http://www.wendtpottery.com/workshop.htm
> Regards,
> Michael Wendt
> Wendt Pottery
> 2729 Clearwater Ave
> Lewiston, ID 83501
> USA
> 208-746-3724
> http://www.wendtpottery.com
> wendtpot@...
>
> --- In clayart@yahoogroups.com, Leigh Whitaker
>
> wrote:
> >
> > Is there any way to throw a little plate from a hump?
> I've made
> my daughter
> > a cute little teapot, and I wanted to attempt an
> entire tea set.
> So I need
> > to make saucers, maybe about 2 inches in diameter,
> and little
> plates ~3
> > inches. I was trying to figure out how to do this
> without
> centering, ya know, 20
> > grams of clay. I find it difficult to center tiny
> amounts, but I
> can't
> > figure out how I'd remove the little plates after
> cutting them.
>
>
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Earl Brunner on wed 7 mar 07
when you throw them off the hump pull the cut off wire under the little saucer twice, with a cookie of clay in between. Lift off by the cookie.
Mark Tigges wrote: On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 08:01:06PM -0500, Leigh Whitaker wrote:
> Is there any way to throw a little plate from a hump? I've made my daughter
> a cute little teapot, and I wanted to attempt an entire tea set. So I need
> to make saucers, maybe about 2 inches in diameter, and little plates ~3
> inches. I was trying to figure out how to do this without centering, ya know, 20
> grams of clay. I find it difficult to center tiny amounts, but I can't
> figure out how I'd remove the little plates after cutting them.
I use a tool to cut a groove some kind of wooden modelling tool, then
wire cut off ... then a flexible metal rib ... slide it into the cut
made by the wire. Make sure the rib is wet. lift, and then tilt the
rib a little to slide it off onto your board.
Mark.
--
http://www.m2crafts.ca
m2crafts [at] gmail
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Lee Love on thu 8 mar 07
On 3/7/07, Michael Wendt wrote:
> See the video clip at:
Can you give the exact link to the clip. All I can find is an
advertisment for the DVD.
Looks like you can only make a particular kind of dish. I
find that the most interesting aspect of plates and platters is a nice
curve.
--
Lee in Mashiko, Japan
Minneapolis, Minnesota USA
http://potters.blogspot.com/
"To affect the quality of the day, that is the highest of arts." -
Henry David Thoreau
"Let the beauty we love be what we do." - Rumi
Michael Wendt on thu 8 mar 07
Someone wrote:
"Has anyone ever posted a close up picture of what they
are using for
a restand tool. I reall want to try this method but I
am not sure
what the tool should look like. So if anyone has one
they use could
you please post a picture of it that shows it a little
closer up
then what Wendt Pottery shows. Thanks."
Dear Someone,
Go to:
http://www.wendtpottery.com/clayart.htm
to see the tools.
The stick can be wood or metal and is
10" long x 1.5" wide x 1/16" thick
The rod can be a broom handle, rolling
pin or in this case, a piece of 3/4" emt
conduit.
I have also used solid stainless steel 1"
shafting, but it is heavy.
Thanks for asking and if it isn't too much
trouble, could you sign your name to
your posts so we know whom we are
addressing?
Regards,
Michael Wendt
Wendt Pottery
2729 Clearwater Ave
Lewiston, ID 83501
USA
208-746-3724
http://www.wendtpottery.com
wendtpot@lewiston.com
Lee Love on thu 8 mar 07
On 3/8/07, WJ Seidl wrote:
> Clicking on the button opens a viewer (Windows) which may require that
> Windows load an Active X control.
Thanks. You gave me a clue. The button doesn't appear in Firefox
but I just found it in IE.
--
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Minneapolis, Minnesota USA
http://potters.blogspot.com/
"To affect the quality of the day, that is the highest of arts." -
Henry David Thoreau
"Let the beauty we love be what we do." - Rumi
Bonnie Staffel on fri 9 mar 07
Craig, I had a great system for putting hump thrown pots, especially
saucers, down. I had 1" cube blocks of wood cut and I put the pots on the
blocks, leaving room for the fingers to release without distorting the
saucer or pot.
Bonnie Staffel
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gsomdahl on fri 9 mar 07
Bonnie Staffel wrote:
> Craig, I had a great system for putting hump thrown pots, especially
> saucers, down. I had 1" cube blocks of wood cut and I put the pots on the
> blocks, leaving room for the fingers to release without distorting the
> saucer or pot.
In the Shanghia museum I saw a demonstration by a young traditional
potter throwing from the hump. He was rapidly throwing small bowls. When
he finished shaping the bowl he would push down a pedestal under the
bowl and with thumb and forefinger of both hands pinch off the bowl. He
then lifted the bowl with both hands and with a quick downward snap he
would release it onto a board. He was doing about a rice bowl a minute
and through an interpretor he said that he was rather slow compared to
his master teacher.
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ReynolPE on sat 10 mar 07
Thanks for the link to the picture. I thought I had looked all over
your site but I guess I screwed up. I am also sorry about not signing
my post. I use Yahoo Groups to read and reply to ClayArt and thought
my name was attached when I did it.
Phil Reynolds
http://reynolpe.googlepages.com
--- In clayart@yahoogroups.com, Michael Wendt wrote:
>
> Someone wrote:
> "Has anyone ever posted a close up picture of what they
> are using for
> a restand tool. I reall want to try this method but I
> am not sure
> what the tool should look like. So if anyone has one
> they use could
> you please post a picture of it that shows it a little
> closer up
> then what Wendt Pottery shows. Thanks."
> Dear Someone,
> Go to:
> http://www.wendtpottery.com/clayart.htm
> to see the tools.
> The stick can be wood or metal and is
> 10" long x 1.5" wide x 1/16" thick
> The rod can be a broom handle, rolling
> pin or in this case, a piece of 3/4" emt
> conduit.
> I have also used solid stainless steel 1"
> shafting, but it is heavy.
> Thanks for asking and if it isn't too much
> trouble, could you sign your name to
> your posts so we know whom we are
> addressing?
> Regards,
>
> Michael Wendt
> Wendt Pottery
> 2729 Clearwater Ave
> Lewiston, ID 83501
> USA
> 208-746-3724
> http://www.wendtpottery.com
> wendtpot@...
>
>
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