Reg Wearley on tue 20 mar 07
Over a year ago we lost our floating blue cone 6
glaze for whatever reason. We have 2 or 3 recipe
variations but all we came up with was black,
despite thickness and temperature adjustments. As
a result I concocted a recipe (below) that does
work, providing you get it on thick enough and
fire it to a 'hot' cone 6. However, this glaze
settles FAST and HARD!! Anybody get me out of
this and still keep the floating blue?
FLOATING BLUE 'A':
Nephsey Syneite-----------43
Frit 3134-----------------33
Flint (silica)------------10
EPK-----------------------14
Rutile---------------------4
Iron Oxide-----------------2
Cobalte Carb---------------1
Bentonite------------------2
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Ron Roy on wed 21 mar 07
Hi Reg,
What kind of ball clay do you have - reforming with ball will help - and
adding some epsom salts - I'll explain.
I can reform without the neph sy as well if you would like to test it.
RR
>Over a year ago we lost our floating blue cone 6
>glaze for whatever reason. We have 2 or 3 recipe
>variations but all we came up with was black,
>despite thickness and temperature adjustments. As
>a result I concocted a recipe (below) that does
>work, providing you get it on thick enough and
>fire it to a 'hot' cone 6. However, this glaze
>settles FAST and HARD!! Anybody get me out of
>this and still keep the floating blue?
>
>FLOATING BLUE 'A':
>
>Nephsey Syneite-----------43
>Frit 3134-----------------33
>Flint (silica)------------10
>EPK-----------------------14
>Rutile---------------------4
>Iron Oxide-----------------2
>Cobalte Carb---------------1
>Bentonite------------------2
Ron Roy
RR#4
15084 Little Lake Road
Brighton, Ontario
Canada
K0K 1H0
Reg Wearley on thu 22 mar 07
Hello Ron, Thanks for your kind offer. Yes,
please reformulate what I have if you can. I
don't know which ball clay I have-I didn't know
there were different kinds. I am looking forward
to see what you can come up with. --Reg
--- Ron Roy wrote:
> Hi Reg,
>
> What kind of ball clay do you have - reforming
> with ball will help - and
> adding some epsom salts - I'll explain.
>
> I can reform without the neph sy as well if you
> would like to test it.
>
> RR
>
> >Over a year ago we lost our floating blue cone
> 6
> >glaze for whatever reason. We have 2 or 3
> recipe
> >variations but all we came up with was black,
> >despite thickness and temperature adjustments.
> As
> >a result I concocted a recipe (below) that
> does
> >work, providing you get it on thick enough and
> >fire it to a 'hot' cone 6. However, this glaze
> >settles FAST and HARD!! Anybody get me out of
> >this and still keep the floating blue?
> >
> >FLOATING BLUE 'A':
> >
> >Nephsey Syneite-----------43
> >Frit 3134-----------------33
> >Flint (silica)------------10
> >EPK-----------------------14
> >Rutile---------------------4
> >Iron Oxide-----------------2
> >Cobalte Carb---------------1
> >Bentonite------------------2
>
> Ron Roy
> RR#4
> 15084 Little Lake Road
> Brighton, Ontario
> Canada
> K0K 1H0
>
>
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Ron Roy on thu 22 mar 07
Hi Reg,
Find out which ball clay if you can - call your supplier - look on the bag
to see who made it and what it is.
I can do a better job if I know what kind.
RR
>Hello Ron, Thanks for your kind offer. Yes,
>please reformulate what I have if you can. I
>don't know which ball clay I have-I didn't know
>there were different kinds. I am looking forward
>to see what you can come up with. --Reg
Ron Roy
RR#4
15084 Little Lake Road
Brighton, Ontario
Canada
K0K 1H0
Reg Wearley on mon 26 mar 07
Ron, the Ball Clay I have is "OM4". Hope
that means something to you and maybe
you can get me out of this pickle. Thanks
--- Ron Roy wrote:
> Hi Reg,
>
> What kind of ball clay do you have - reforming
> with ball will help - and
> adding some epsom salts - I'll explain.
>
> I can reform without the neph sy as well if you
> would like to test it.
>
> RR
>
> >Over a year ago we lost our floating blue cone
> 6
> >glaze for whatever reason. We have 2 or 3
> recipe
> >variations but all we came up with was black,
> >despite thickness and temperature adjustments.
> As
> >a result I concocted a recipe (below) that
> does
> >work, providing you get it on thick enough and
> >fire it to a 'hot' cone 6. However, this glaze
> >settles FAST and HARD!! Anybody get me out of
> >this and still keep the floating blue?
> >
> >FLOATING BLUE 'A':
> >
> >Nephsey Syneite-----------43
> >Frit 3134-----------------33
> >Flint (silica)------------10
> >EPK-----------------------14
> >Rutile---------------------4
> >Iron Oxide-----------------2
> >Cobalte Carb---------------1
> >Bentonite------------------2
>
> Ron Roy
> RR#4
> 15084 Little Lake Road
> Brighton, Ontario
> Canada
> K0K 1H0
>
>
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Ron Roy on fri 30 mar 07
Hi Reg,
Here it is with OM#4 - it should float better now but you might try also
using distilled or deionized water - your house water may be a contributing
factor.
I am also including my "best" floating blue conversion. It sounds like you
may have some contaminatered materials - I suggest doing a test of exch of
these with new materials - and the old recipe - to see if that is the case.
Yours with OM4 instead of EPK - don't forget the colours.
Neph Sy - 40.0
f3134 - 33.5
Silica - 6.5
OM#4 20.0
Bentonite - 2.0
Total - 102.0
My best FB revision - RR
>Frit 3278- 35.
>Neph sye- 8.
>Custer spar- 12.5
>Dolomite-6.
>Whiting- 2.
>EPK- 26.
>Silica-10.5
>total-100.
>Cobalt carb-2.
>Red iron oxide-2.
>Rutile-3.75 up to 4. it says do a line blend we use 3.75 works for us!
>Ron, the Ball Clay I have is "OM4". Hope
>that means something to you and maybe
>you can get me out of this pickle. Thanks
Ron Roy
RR#4
15084 Little Lake Road
Brighton, Ontario
Canada
K0K 1H0
Reg Wearley on wed 2 may 07
Ron, the ball clay I have is "OM4", and yes, I'd
like to have both formulations if you can.
Thanks, --Reg Wearley
--- Ron Roy wrote:
> Hi Reg,
>
> What kind of ball clay do you have - reforming
> with ball will help - and
> adding some epsom salts - I'll explain.
>
> I can reform without the neph sy as well if you
> would like to test it.
>
> RR
>
> >Over a year ago we lost our floating blue cone
> 6
> >glaze for whatever reason. We have 2 or 3
> recipe
> >variations but all we came up with was black,
> >despite thickness and temperature adjustments.
> As
> >a result I concocted a recipe (below) that
> does
> >work, providing you get it on thick enough and
> >fire it to a 'hot' cone 6. However, this glaze
> >settles FAST and HARD!! Anybody get me out of
> >this and still keep the floating blue?
> >
> >FLOATING BLUE 'A':
> >
> >Nephsey Syneite-----------43
> >Frit 3134-----------------33
> >Flint (silica)------------10
> >EPK-----------------------14
> >Rutile---------------------4
> >Iron Oxide-----------------2
> >Cobalte Carb---------------1
> >Bentonite------------------2
>
> Ron Roy
> RR#4
> 15084 Little Lake Road
> Brighton, Ontario
> Canada
> K0K 1H0
>
>
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Ron Roy on fri 4 may 07
Hi Reg,
here is the same recipe with om#4 instead of EPK
-----------------
NEPH SY............. 40.00
F3134............... 33.50
SILICA.............. 6.00
OM-4................ 20.50
----------
100.00
FORMULA & ANALYSIS
------------------
*CaO........ .47 7.28%
*MgO........ .01 .13%
*K2O........ .08 2.11%
*Na2O....... .44 7.65%
Fe2O3...... .01 .27%
TIO2....... .01 .25%
B2O3....... .41 7.97%
AL2O3...... .54 15.49%
SiO2....... 3.52 58.85%
P2O5.......
RATIO 6.46
EXPAN 524.29
WEIGHT 358.77
Here is the above recipe with custer and neph sy - mix equal parts of both
to get the one inbetween - don't forget the colours.
-----------------
NEPH SY............. 20.50
CUSTER SPAR......... 22.50
F3134............... 34.50
OM-4................ 22.50
----------
100.00
FORMULA & ANALYSIS
------------------
*CaO........ .48 7.44%
*MgO........ .01 .11%
*K2O........ .14 3.54%
*Na2O....... .38 6.51%
Fe2O3...... .01 .30%
TIO2....... .01 .28%
B2O3....... .42 8.22%
AL2O3...... .54 15.38%
SiO2....... 3.49 58.21%
RATIO 6.44
EXPAN 533.83
WEIGHT 359.66
>Ron, the ball clay I have is "OM4", and yes, I'd
>like to have both formulations if you can.
>Thanks, --Reg Wearley
>
>
>--- Ron Roy wrote:
>
>> Hi Reg,
>>
>> What kind of ball clay do you have - reforming
>> with ball will help - and
>> adding some epsom salts - I'll explain.
>>
>> I can reform without the neph sy as well if you
>> would like to test it.
>>
>> RR
>>
>> >Over a year ago we lost our floating blue cone
>> 6
>> >glaze for whatever reason. We have 2 or 3
>> recipe
>> >variations but all we came up with was black,
>> >despite thickness and temperature adjustments.
>> As
>> >a result I concocted a recipe (below) that
>> does
>> >work, providing you get it on thick enough and
>> >fire it to a 'hot' cone 6. However, this glaze
>> >settles FAST and HARD!! Anybody get me out of
>> >this and still keep the floating blue?
>> >
>> >FLOATING BLUE 'A':
>> >
>> >Nephsey Syneite-----------43
>> >Frit 3134-----------------33
>> >Flint (silica)------------10
>> >EPK-----------------------14
>> >Rutile---------------------4
>> >Iron Oxide-----------------2
>> >Cobalte Carb---------------1
>> >Bentonite------------------2
>>
>> Ron Roy
>> RR#4
>> 15084 Little Lake Road
>> Brighton, Ontario
>> Canada
>> K0K 1H0
>>
>>
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>> be reached at melpots@pclink.com.
>>
>
>
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RR#4
15084 Little Lake Road
Brighton, Ontario
Canada
K0K 1H0
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