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home made burners

updated wed 10 oct 07

 

mel jacobson on tue 20 mar 07


i have some wonderful old drawings
of home-made burners.

it is not worth putting them on my website,
but a few of you may want to look.
just drop me a note.

they may be big files as there is some
detail writing on them...and tiny files blurs them.

bob klander has the set and will test some ideas.
bill burgert in denver and i made a pair that are really
dandy.
we did a bit of mig welding on them...very secure burners,
and they work well.
they cost about 10 bucks each to make.
just plumbing store stock.
mel

from: mel/minnetonka.mn.usa
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Frank Colson on sun 7 oct 07


You can download a diagram on a gravity feed oil burner which should do the
job you are asking for.
Free, at www/R2D2u.com

Frank Colson
www.R2D2u.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Info khmerceramics"
To:
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 10:15 PM
Subject: Home made burners


Dear all,



Did someone know how to make oil burner (vegetal oil or diesel) able to
reach stoneware temperature? I saw many information about Babington burner,
but I wonder about flame temperature. Can Babington burner heat a kiln to
stoneware temperature?

Is it possible to reach stoneware temperature with butane gas? (we don't
have propane in Cambodia).

Maybe is it more easy to buy a burner, but we are an NGO and don't have
means to buy it, moreover it need to be buy abroad.

Thanks for your help about this subject and all other to; clayart
discussions are very helpful for us.



Take a look about our activities: www.khmerceramics.com



Serge


Serge Rega
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www.khmerceramics.com

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Info khmerceramics on mon 8 oct 07


Dear all,

=20

Did someone know how to make oil burner (vegetal oil or diesel) able to =
reach stoneware temperature? I saw many information about Babington =
burner, but I wonder about flame temperature. Can Babington burner heat =
a kiln to stoneware temperature?

Is it possible to reach stoneware temperature with butane gas? (we don't =
have propane in Cambodia).

Maybe is it more easy to buy a burner, but we are an NGO and don't have =
means to buy it, moreover it need to be buy abroad.

Thanks for your help about this subject and all other to; clayart =
discussions are very helpful for us.

=20

Take a look about our activities: www.khmerceramics.com

=20

Serge


Serge Rega
Director
NCKCR
+855(0)63 761 519
www.khmerceramics.com

Gail Barnett on mon 8 oct 07


On Oct 8, 2007, at 11:17 AM, Hank Murrow wrote:

> On Oct 7, 2007, at 10:15 PM, Info khmerceramics wrote:
>
>> Did someone know how to make oil burner (vegetal oil or diesel)
>> able to reach stoneware temperature?
>
>> Take a look about our activities: www.khmerceramics.com
>
> Dear Serge;
>
> Does anyone near you have the capability of casting small parts in
> iron? If so, I may have just what you need, and you could make the
> pattern on ordinary small tablesaw or scroll saw yourself.
>
> Cheers, Hank Murrow
> www.murrow.biz/hank
>
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Duff bogen on mon 8 oct 07


Serge

Check th eclayart archieves for oil burners
There are two basic types i've seen
a Natural draft type using metal plates set in a stair step arrangement. the plates are built into the fire mouth of the kiln . The oil volitalizes on the plates. the cumbustion air is drawn through the plates by the chimney and mixes with the gassified oil and burns.
A forced draft kind in which the force of a fan blowing atomizes the oil. This mix blows into the fire mouth where the oil volitalizes and burns.
Both systems tend to be smokey on start-up. They're like a sail boat and a power boat. one you fuss with the sails and the other you fuss with the motor.
If you have unreliable electricity that might go out during a fire I'd go for the Natural draft plate burner system.
Duff

Info khmerceramics wrote:
Dear all,



Did someone know how to make oil burner (vegetal oil or diesel) able to reach stoneware temperature? I saw many information about Babington burner, but I wonder about flame temperature. Can Babington burner heat a kiln to stoneware temperature?

Is it possible to reach stoneware temperature with butane gas? (we don't have propane in Cambodia).

Maybe is it more easy to buy a burner, but we are an NGO and don't have means to buy it, moreover it need to be buy abroad.

Thanks for your help about this subject and all other to; clayart discussions are very helpful for us.



Take a look about our activities: www.khmerceramics.com



Serge


Serge Rega
Director
NCKCR
+855(0)63 761 519
www.khmerceramics.com

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Hank Murrow on mon 8 oct 07


On Oct 7, 2007, at 10:15 PM, Info khmerceramics wrote:

> Did someone know how to make oil burner (vegetal oil or diesel)
> able to reach stoneware temperature?

> Take a look about our activities: www.khmerceramics.com

Dear Serge;

Does anyone near you have the capability of casting small parts in
iron? If so, I may have just what you need, and you could make the
pattern on ordinary small tablesaw or scroll saw yourself.

Cheers, Hank Murrow
www.murrow.biz/hank

Charles Hightower on tue 9 oct 07


"The Kiln Book," by Olsen has information on how to build such a setup.

Maggie Jones on tue 9 oct 07


weld a small metal rod at a 45 degree angle onto the end of a 2 inch pipe
about a foot long.
place this into a small firebox.
the oil (waste oil or diesel, whatever) drips onto the rod and flows
down in front of the pipe. At the back of the pipe insert a blower of
some sort. ...vacumn cleaner turned backwards even.
warm up the firebox first with wood, perhaps ,and slowly introduce the
oil air mix.
how hot doya want to go?...the vacumn cleaner produces a flame that
sounds like a 747.

this is a Soldner and Parks version. Soldner used this method at wrkshps
often. Dennis Parks used waste oil.
Maggie


http://TurtleIslandPottery.com
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828.669.2713
.........next OPEN Oct 27th spread the word!




On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:53:09 -0700 Frank Colson
writes:
> You can download a diagram on a gravity feed oil burner which should
> do the
> job you are asking for.
> Free, at www/R2D2u.com
>
> Frank Colson
> www.R2D2u.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Info khmerceramics"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 10:15 PM
> Subject: Home made burners
>
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> Did someone know how to make oil burner (vegetal oil or diesel) able
> to
> reach stoneware temperature? I saw many information about Babington
> burner,
> but I wonder about flame temperature. Can Babington burner heat a
> kiln to
> stoneware temperature?
>
> Is it possible to reach stoneware temperature with butane gas? (we
> don't
> have propane in Cambodia).
>
> Maybe is it more easy to buy a burner, but we are an NGO and don't
> have
> means to buy it, moreover it need to be buy abroad.
>
> Thanks for your help about this subject and all other to; clayart
> discussions are very helpful for us.
>
>
>
> Take a look about our activities: www.khmerceramics.com
>
>
>
> Serge
>
>
> Serge Rega
> Director
> NCKCR
> +855(0)63 761 519
> www.khmerceramics.com
>
>
_________________________________________________________________________
_____
> Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
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> melpots2@visi.com
>
>
_________________________________________________________________________
_____
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> melpots2@visi.com
>
>

Marcia Selsor on tue 9 oct 07


Dennis Parks uses used vegetable from the fast food places in Elko,
NV. He hauls it back to Tuscarora, 50 miles into the hills.
His book reprinted by Axner shows how to do it.
He wrote that decades ago but it is relevant today even more so.

Marcia Selsor
http://marciaselsor.com